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Halsey: Referee standards have dropped to alarming levels  

Former referee Mark Halsey has spoken about the diminishing levels of referee standards in English football.

 

The 59 year-old who retired in 2013 after 14 seasons as a Premier League referee is now a close observer of the whistle blowers and does not like what he sees.

 

The Daily Star reported Halsey as saying:

 

“I hate to criticise fellow colleagues but over the last six to seven years the standard is dropping alarmingly, at all levels.

 

“We have some great referees out there at the top, and I think Michael Oliver is by far our best referee; Martin Atkinson, Mike Dean, they are experienced guys and they are good referees.

 

"Top coaches turn average players into good players, good players into excellent players - it is no different with referees.

 

"We have a failing with a number of top coaches who can take our referees forward."

 

Halsey also took aim at the decision makers for the extraordinary decision to put David Coote in charge of the VAR for the Reds clash with Leicester on Sunday evening.

 

 

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Coote will forever by remembered by Liverpool fans for his failing to punish Everton keeper Jordan Pickford for his truly reckless challenge on Virgil Van Dijk, which saw the imperious central defender ruled out for the season with a ACL injury.

 

The Nottinghamshire official then produced another crucial error when he ruled out a Jordan Henderson last minute goal for offside which left Jurgen Klopp rightly bewildered.

 

The decision to remove Coote from this fixture was described by Referee chiefs as “Operational Reasons.” but Halsey said it was a choice which should not been made in the first place.

 

“It's poor appointing. There was a massive furore about the incident and we had two or three different reasons why it wasn't picked up; the offside nullified the challenge which was nonsense.

 

"Why put him in that pressure cooker? There was no need to put him on that fixture list as VAR with Liverpool."

 

Thankfully common sense was applied in the end and Andre Marriner will be the man in the VAR hot seat tomorrow evening.

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The appalling reffing decisions and blatant pen ignored will now all be overshadowed due to the allegations about Hendo and supposed comments. A cynic might say it's been perfectly orchestrated by an arsenal player.

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On 25/11/2020 at 14:51, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

 

 

My kind of ref!

Thats quite strange as a grassroots ref recently faced punishment for 'pushing' a player who he wanted to leave the pitch quickly for a substitution in the same way as this ref.

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On 09/10/2022 at 23:33, dockers_strike said:

The appalling reffing decisions and blatant pen ignored will now all be overshadowed due to the allegations about Hendo and supposed comments. A cynic might say it's been perfectly orchestrated by an arsenal player.

Not unlike Holgate getting off Scot-free with throwing Bobby into the stands, a red card challenge a normal world, by falsely playing the race card. 

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Now I'm not sure where the earlier quote came from but just look at how that comes across to the frustrated fan, perfectly put below from a poster on another site.

 

'We got to be the ones in 2013-14 to see City win the title by two points after we were denied a clearly onside equaliser at the Etihad that would have created a three point swing in our favour and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones in 2018-19 to see City win the title by a point after we lost a game at the Etihad two one when Kompany should have been sent off for denying Salah a goalscoring opportunity at one each, a draw would have created a three point swing, and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones to see City win the title by a point last season, knowing that the authorities actually apologised to Everton because the officials fucked up by not giving Everton a very late penalty at one nil down, that officials gave City a soft penalty at the Emirates and denied Arsenal the soft penalty they spunked their load to give against us on Saturday, in a two one defeat to Arsenal, that City won one nil against Wolves with a penalty that clearly hit the ribs and armpits of the defender but VAR were happy to award, that Jota got flattened in the box at WHL but the ref decided that he stopped to initiate contact. Any of those decisions implemented correctly, just one of them... and guess who would have won the title?

Excuse me for saying, but I'm fucking sick of it.

I'm fucking sick of officials continuously finding obscure reasons to fuck us, and if they can't find obscure reasons they just fuck us anyway, whilst clubs like City and utd seem to have a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card in perpetuity.

So somebody else can get kicked in the balls in May. They're welcome to it.'

 

I totally get where he's at. From financial cheating to knobhead fans, bastard policing to corrupt governing bodies, docile 'journalists' to nodding dog pundits, obscene wages paid to preening bellends, refereeing incompetence/corruption (delete as appropriate) is coming perilously close to breaking that bond for me. I can feel myself pulling away little by little and there is less and less to pull me back in.

 

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9 minutes ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Now I'm not sure where the earlier quote came from but just look at how that comes across to the frustrated fan, perfectly put below from a poster on another site.

 

'We got to be the ones in 2013-14 to see City win the title by two points after we were denied a clearly onside equaliser at the Etihad that would have created a three point swing in our favour and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones in 2018-19 to see City win the title by a point after we lost a game at the Etihad two one when Kompany should have been sent off for denying Salah a goalscoring opportunity at one each, a draw would have created a three point swing, and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones to see City win the title by a point last season, knowing that the authorities actually apologised to Everton because the officials fucked up by not giving Everton a very late penalty at one nil down, that officials gave City a soft penalty at the Emirates and denied Arsenal the soft penalty they spunked their load to give against us on Saturday, in a two one defeat to Arsenal, that City won one nil against Wolves with a penalty that clearly hit the ribs and armpits of the defender but VAR were happy to award, that Jota got flattened in the box at WHL but the ref decided that he stopped to initiate contact. Any of those decisions implemented correctly, just one of them... and guess who would have won the title?

Excuse me for saying, but I'm fucking sick of it.

I'm fucking sick of officials continuously finding obscure reasons to fuck us, and if they can't find obscure reasons they just fuck us anyway, whilst clubs like City and utd seem to have a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card in perpetuity.

So somebody else can get kicked in the balls in May. They're welcome to it.'

 

I totally get where he's at. From financial cheating to knobhead fans, bastard policing to corrupt governing bodies, docile 'journalists' to nodding dog pundits, obscene wages paid to preening bellends, refereeing incompetence/corruption (delete as appropriate) is coming perilously close to breaking that bond for me. I can feel myself pulling away little by little and there is less and less to pull me back in.

 

When we won the title, it was only because everyone else were so far behind the corrupt cunts couldn't claw them back somehow. 

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One thing about citing examples of appalling decisions from years gone by, as shit as they were, is the assumption that all else for the rest of the season would remain the same had the officials made the opposite calls.

 

Despite that, it's unarguable that English referees are shit these days. Nearly all from Greater Manchester and making such a pig's ear of VAR that its usefulness is often outweighed by how badly they apply it.

 

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19 minutes ago, Trumo said:

One thing about citing examples of appalling decisions from years gone by, as shit as they were, is the assumption that all else for the rest of the season would remain the same had the officials made the opposite calls.

 

Despite that, it's unarguable that English referees are shit these days. Nearly all from Greater Manchester and making such a pig's ear of VAR that its usefulness is often outweighed by how badly they apply it.

 

I get what you are saying but as it stands we definitely didn't win the league in any of those years, with the right decisions then who knows?

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4 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Now I'm not sure where the earlier quote came from but just look at how that comes across to the frustrated fan, perfectly put below from a poster on another site.

 

'We got to be the ones in 2013-14 to see City win the title by two points after we were denied a clearly onside equaliser at the Etihad that would have created a three point swing in our favour and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones in 2018-19 to see City win the title by a point after we lost a game at the Etihad two one when Kompany should have been sent off for denying Salah a goalscoring opportunity at one each, a draw would have created a three point swing, and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones to see City win the title by a point last season, knowing that the authorities actually apologised to Everton because the officials fucked up by not giving Everton a very late penalty at one nil down, that officials gave City a soft penalty at the Emirates and denied Arsenal the soft penalty they spunked their load to give against us on Saturday, in a two one defeat to Arsenal, that City won one nil against Wolves with a penalty that clearly hit the ribs and armpits of the defender but VAR were happy to award, that Jota got flattened in the box at WHL but the ref decided that he stopped to initiate contact. Any of those decisions implemented correctly, just one of them... and guess who would have won the title?

Excuse me for saying, but I'm fucking sick of it.

I'm fucking sick of officials continuously finding obscure reasons to fuck us, and if they can't find obscure reasons they just fuck us anyway, whilst clubs like City and utd seem to have a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card in perpetuity.

So somebody else can get kicked in the balls in May. They're welcome to it.'

 

I totally get where he's at. From financial cheating to knobhead fans, bastard policing to corrupt governing bodies, docile 'journalists' to nodding dog pundits, obscene wages paid to preening bellends, refereeing incompetence/corruption (delete as appropriate) is coming perilously close to breaking that bond for me. I can feel myself pulling away little by little and there is less and less to pull me back in.

 

That's all spot on.

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1 hour ago, A_S said:

They REALLY don't like being called out on their bullshit, do they? Just taking the piss now. 

How the fuck is Taylor ref for this again?!?!?

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On 11/10/2022 at 17:33, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Now I'm not sure where the earlier quote came from but just look at how that comes across to the frustrated fan, perfectly put below from a poster on another site.

 

'We got to be the ones in 2013-14 to see City win the title by two points after we were denied a clearly onside equaliser at the Etihad that would have created a three point swing in our favour and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones in 2018-19 to see City win the title by a point after we lost a game at the Etihad two one when Kompany should have been sent off for denying Salah a goalscoring opportunity at one each, a draw would have created a three point swing, and guess who would have won the title?

We got to be the ones to see City win the title by a point last season, knowing that the authorities actually apologised to Everton because the officials fucked up by not giving Everton a very late penalty at one nil down, that officials gave City a soft penalty at the Emirates and denied Arsenal the soft penalty they spunked their load to give against us on Saturday, in a two one defeat to Arsenal, that City won one nil against Wolves with a penalty that clearly hit the ribs and armpits of the defender but VAR were happy to award, that Jota got flattened in the box at WHL but the ref decided that he stopped to initiate contact. Any of those decisions implemented correctly, just one of them... and guess who would have won the title?

Excuse me for saying, but I'm fucking sick of it.

I'm fucking sick of officials continuously finding obscure reasons to fuck us, and if they can't find obscure reasons they just fuck us anyway, whilst clubs like City and utd seem to have a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card in perpetuity.

So somebody else can get kicked in the balls in May. They're welcome to it.'

 

I totally get where he's at. From financial cheating to knobhead fans, bastard policing to corrupt governing bodies, docile 'journalists' to nodding dog pundits, obscene wages paid to preening bellends, refereeing incompetence/corruption (delete as appropriate) is coming perilously close to breaking that bond for me. I can feel myself pulling away little by little and there is less and less to pull me back in.

 

One game doesnt make a season. There is a pattern of rank incompetence rather than corruption. The corruption occurs way before anybody ever steps foot on a pitch.

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What with the midweek games and such, I've been watching a fair few games recently and Craig Pawson seems to be on my screen all the tme;

16th October Man United v Newcastle

18th October Blackburn v Sunderland

20th October Fulham v Villa (4th 0fficial)

22nd City v Southampton

24th West Ham v Bournemouth (4th Official)

I do't know if he's still a UEFA official but if so he might expect to be involved this week.

That's a ridiculous schedule. When is he supposed to train, be coached (and PGMOL put great emphasis on improved coaching this season) and meet assessors to discuss his performance?

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47 minutes ago, Frank Dacey said:

What with the midweek games and such, I've been watching a fair few games recently and Craig Pawson seems to be on my screen all the tme;

16th October Man United v Newcastle

18th October Blackburn v Sunderland

20th October Fulham v Villa (4th 0fficial)

22nd City v Southampton

24th West Ham v Bournemouth (4th Official)

I do't know if he's still a UEFA official but if so he might expect to be involved this week.

That's a ridiculous schedule. When is he supposed to train, be coached (and PGMOL put great emphasis on improved coaching this season) and meet assessors to discuss his performance?

He's not. The worse the officials perform,the more drama there is. Drama creates publicity,publicity creates news stories,clicks and eventually lots of money for the gravy train they are all on. They dont give a shit.

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8 minutes ago, Frank Dacey said:

I notice this morning that Bobby Madley is back reffing in the PL this weekend. I thought, before his meltdown back in 2018, that he was one of the better refs at the time.

I didn't particularly rate him, but he never gave me the impression he had an issue with us, unlike some others. Been working his way up again for a couple of years. His brother Andy isn't a bad ref and his name very rarely appears in the controversial incidents regularly highlighted on MOTD etc.

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