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Liverpool 0 Real Madrid 3 (Oct 22 2014)


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Dave Usher at Anfield

 

 

 

 

Did anyone actually think this would be any different? I’m not even angry or upset about it, if anything I’m relieved it was only 3-0 as for a while there it looked like we might get really embarrassed. Still, it says a lot when few if any are surprised by what is our heaviest ever defeat at home in Europe. It’s gotten really bad, really quick, hasn’t it?

 

This was all too predictable. Real Madrid are the best team in Europe and we’re in a state of disarray having been played off the park by the worst team in the Premier League last weekend. Yeah we won that game - although I’m still not quite sure how - but there’s a world of difference between facing Bobby Zamora, Richard Dunne & co and coming up against Ronaldo and the European Champions.

 

Madrid beat us without really breaking sweat. Ludogorets gave them a much more difficult game than we did, probably because right now the Bulgarians are a better team than we are. Not even the magic of an Anfield European night could inspire this sorry team. They tried, they really did, and for 15 minutes it was looking quite promising. Once Madrid weathered the early flurry though it was so, so easy for them.

 

From the moment Ronaldo opened the scoring this one was over and it was just a case of how many they’d score. That first goal was brilliant and I don’t think there was much anyone could do to stop that. You had the world’s best player combining with the best player at the last World Cup (a lad who cost something like £70m) to conjure up a great goal.

 

Fair enough. I have no problem with us conceding a goal like that at all, sometimes you just have to accept that great players will make you suffer. That’s why they’re great players. What happened after that is a different story though.

 

The narrative will be how Liverpool were played off the park by the mighty Real Madrid, and that’s partially true. They were clearly superior to us in every way, that’s not even in question. They played a lot of the game in second gear and the second half was little more than a training exercise for them. The reason for that was not that they blew us away with their incredible firepower, it was because we defended like schoolboys once again.

 

As I said, the first goal was all about world class talent doing their thing. The second and third goals could have been scored against us by a non-league side though. There was nothing ‘galactico’ about those two goals, they were both completely down to our absolute hopelessness in dealing with anything in the air.

 

I’ve come to expect us to concede goals like that against QPR and Villa etc because we can’t defend it and it's not like they’re going to score goals like the one Ronaldo did are they? What is hard to take is when we concede QPR type goals to Real fucking Madrid. They’re the best side in the world, they don’t need a helping hand from us. If we’re going to lose 3-0 at least make them beat us by scoring ‘Real Madrid’ type goals like the first one.

 

We completely handed them the game because we can’t deal with the aerial stuff. Much is made of us being unable to defend set-pieces but that’s not the real issue, it's merely a symptom of a wider problem; we can’t cope with any balls put into the box. It just so happens that set-pieces highlight the issue because they are the most common way to get men in the box and put the ball in the air. Set-pieces are the snotty nose and sneezing, they aren't the cold. You cure the cold then you no longer have the snotty nose and sneezing. 

 

Madrid’s second goal wasn’t from a set-piece for example; at least not directly anyway. It was from the second phase after we’d cleared the initial corner. They still had plenty of men forward from the original set play and when the ball came back in we didn’t deal with it as the marking on the back post was criminally bad. 

 

Sound familiar? It should do because the exact same thing happened on Sunday against QPR. Then we followed it by conceding from a corner that we didn’t defend properly. Sound familiar? Again, it should do because that also happened at Loftus Road on Sunday.

 

The net result was that Madrid went in at half time 3-0 up when really it should have been 1-0 on the balance of play. It’s not as though they wiped the floor with us and we competed quite well for much of the first half. None of that matters when you repeatedly shit your pants any time a cross comes into a crowded box though does it?

 

Lovren made a telling remark earlier this week when discussing the QPR game. “If the game had lasted another minute it would have been 3-3” he said. I agree with him completely, but for one of our own defenders to be saying that says all you need to know about the mess we’re in right now. Those players expect to concede goals, they have no confidence or belief in themselves or eachother or in what they’re doing. 

 

The mentality of the side when it comes to defending is all wrong and the responsibility for that lies with the manager and his coaching methods. I keep saying it, you can blame the defenders all you like but it’s become increasingly obvious they aren’t the problem. Just look at the second and third goals, they’re absolutely horrendous. We give up goals like that every other week and it’s been going on for ages, regardless of which players are on the field. The players aren’t the issue here, the coaching is and the sooner Brendan acknowledges that the sooner he can go about fixing it.

 

All this nonsense about Balotelli and the shirt swapping is just white noise and it’s deflecting attention away from the real issue here. We can’t defend and we can’t attack. We’ve lost everything that we were good at and we’ve retained everything we were bad at. That’s what worries me, not Balotelli doing Balotelli things.

 

Should he have swapped shirts with Pepe at half time? No (although there are some mitigating circumstances involved here that I’ll get to in a sec), but on a list of things to be concerned about from this game it ranks dead last for me. The only reason it’s getting so much air time is because it’s Mad Mario and he's 'box office'.

 

I couldn’t care less about that incident as we’ve got much, much bigger concerns than that. Balotelli swapping shirts with Pepe had no bearing on the outcome of this match and I don’t think it was any kind of indicator that he doesn’t care either. I wouldn’t say he played with a poor attitude, I just think he played poorly (again). There’s a difference. 

 

Look, I don’t want to see any players swapping shirts at half time, and I hammered Sakho for it last year at Chelsea. There are some subtle differences this time though. I saw the footage of it and it was Pepe who was pestering Mario for his shirt, not the other way around. He was asked for it, complied and Pepe was then patting him on the back, all grateful. 

 

What should Mario have done in that situation? The ‘English’ thing to do would have been to say “wait until full time”, but the reason players swap shirts at half time is because they usually want to get someone else’s at the end of the game, a two for one kind of deal. Pepe probably wanted Gerrard’s shirt at full time so went for Mario at the break. Had it been Balotelli actively going looking to swap shirts at 3-0 down then he’d deserve whatever flak came his way, but that wasn’t the case and this is a non-story really.

 

It’s also worth remembering that this kind of thing probably happens all the time in Italy. He wouldn’t be getting any stick for something like this at Milan, it’s a cultural thing in English football where we don’t like to see it. That’s why you’ve got morons like Paul Merson - a man who let’s not forget, admitted to playing football when pissed as a fart - calling Balotelli a disgrace. People like Phil Thomson and Micky Quinn have also frowned upon it because it’s not what we do here. I agree with the general point, but let’s keep it in perspective.

 

It being a Champions League game also comes into the equation for me too. European games are almost like international football as far as players are concerned (and I bet Mario wasn’t the only one of our players to go home with a Madrid shirt last night), while collecting souvenirs from European games is something we all do, whether it’s swapping scarfs with rival fans or buying swag from their club shop on away trips. It’s not the same as domestic football in that regard (although try telling that to the weirdos who buy ‘half Liverpool, half Man United’ scarfs).

 

Players swapping shirts in Premier League games against rival teams bothers me, especially when it’s at half time. Sakho doing it against Chelsea last year pissed me off, because 1 it was Chelsea and 2 the player whose shirt he was so keen to get had almost taken Hendo’s leg off at the knee in that half. 

 

Unless Balotelli had been told beforehand not to do it (which I’d bet he hadn’t), I think it’s harsh to be having a go at him for it. Have a go at him for his relentlessly poor performances by all means, that’s fair game and it’s far more of an issue than him granting Pepe’s request to swap shirts. If he does it again that's a different story of course.

 

He was hooked at half time for Lallana (who played well) and can have no real complaints. He was no worse than some others but by taking him off we became more mobile, we pressed the ball better and looked more energetic as a team. Is that the way forward until Sturridge returns? I think it has to be. Until he comes back we’ve only got three decent attacking players so they all need to be on the pitch at the same time when possible, and that means Sterling will have to play centre forward for now. 

 

I’d hesitate to read too much into the ‘improved’ second half display though because Madrid had one eye on El Classico and were happy to just see this one out. They still had some good chances to increase their lead on the counter and Mignolet had to make a good save to deny Ronaldo, while Rodriguez shot inches wide after being teed up by the outstanding Benzema who had skinned an over-committed Skrtel on the left touchline.

 

Considering the dangerous breaks they had we actually defended those quite well I thought and Lovren in particular made some good interventions. It was all just so easy for Real though and we couldn’t really get near their goal. Casillas had little or nothing to do, and it’s just sad that the team that got us into the Champions League is not the team that’s playing in it.

 

I said a few weeks back that I’d rather not even be in it as we’re not equipped to be here right now. We need heavy hours on the training ground to fix our problems but we don’t have those hours. After that QPR shambles last weekend I’d have much preferred Rodgers to have had the whole week preparing for what looks like being an extremely tricky game with Hull this weekend.

 

Instead we’ve had to prepare for a game that we had little hope of winning, and now he has to pick the players up after being completely outclassed. Does he even know how to fix this? I guess we’ll find out over the next few months.

 

To tell the truth I’m not even remotely bothered we lost this game and all I’m hoping for from this group is that we don’t finish third. If we come second and go through then all well and good, but it might be better for our domestic season that we finish bottom. The one thing we don’t need is the Europa League, that would kill us in my opinion.

 

We need to just somehow grind out some results in the Premier League and hope things eventually improve. It’s not going to be easy though as next week we’ve got a league cup game interrupting the preparation for trip to Newcastle, and Rodgers is going to have to do some juggling with his squad over the next week or two because he can’t just run the likes of Sterling, Gerrard, Henderson etc into the ground.

 

The problem is, who do you bring in? Our better younger players (Wisdom, Ibe) are out on loan, we’ve got Suso and Flanagan out injured and the squad depth we thought we had simply isn’t there. We’ve got plenty of bodies, but how many do you trust?

 

Maybe Lambert should get another chance, as perhaps with Sterling playing centrally and running in behind Rickie will be able to play his natural game. He had Rodriguez doing that at Southampton, with Lallana buzzing around him too, so maybe we could recreate that set up until Sturridge is available again?

 

Emre Can was quite lively when he came on too, a lot of what he tried didn’t come off but he was positive and was looking to get involved as much as possible. He looked like he saw this game as a chance to show what he can do and that has to be a positive sign. Markovic on the other hand… 

 

Thankfully Madrid weren’t overly concerned about rubbing our noses in it and made some changes to give their stars a rest. Ronaldo left the field, initially to boos and then appreciative applause from all four corners of the ground. Marcelo and Kroos (both outstanding) were also given a well earned rest.

 

It’s incredibly frustrating that we didn’t get to play them last year as we’d have given them a real game. Instead they came here and faced this timid, toothless, directionless bunch who were never going to be able to pose them any problems. So demoralising isn’t it?

 

Our best player on the night was clearly Coutinho and I’m not sure why he was brought off. If it was about preserving legs for Hull then for God’s sake Brendan get Raheem off too. Coutinho has barely played lately so he’s not going to be tired. When his number went up there was a split second where it felt like the crowd were about to lose their shit about it, but the groan/boo was immediately stifled as he was applauded off.

 

The play from the full backs was really disappointing as they were often the ones in plenty of space but neither of them did a tap when they had the ball. Johnson continues to just run into people while Moreno got no change from the wily Arbeloa.

 

The best way to sum this up was that we were the little kid trying to throw punches while Madrid were the grown man with his hand on the top of our head keeping us out of range and playfully laughing. It’s a helpless feeling watching us right now.

 

 

Team: Mignolet; Johnson, Skrtel, Lovren, Moreno; Gerrard, Henderson (Can), Allen, Coutinho (Markovic); Sterling, Balotelli (Lallana):


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Just a slight disagreement on the first goal and the claim that we couldn't have done anything about it... We could have not retreated and invited them on

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Just a slight disagreement on the first goal and the claim that we couldn't have done anything about it... We could have not retreated and invited them on

There were 4-5 players all waiting on each other to do something and none of them did anything.

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Good read, although I hope we win the Europa if we get in it. I still think even 7 points could see the 2nd place team qualify, so it will be hard not to qualify from this group of shite. Despite us being wank, things are falling our way.

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I'd rather be in the Europa than not be in Europe at all, personally

 

Unless we pull out all the stops in the January transfer window then qualifying for, and winning the Europa is likely to represent our best hope of being in next seasons Champions League.

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Unless we pull out all the stops in the January transfer window then qualifying for, and winning the Europa is likely to represent our best hope of being in next seasons Champions League.

 

Exactly.  It would be nice to have that option at the tail end of the season.  

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Just a slight disagreement on the first goal and the claim that we couldn't have done anything about it... We could have not retreated and invited them on

 

I dunno, maybe I guess. You can pick holes in any goal conceded I suppose, but one twos are one of the most difficult things to defend against and that pass was literally inch perfect (Lovren was an ant's pube away from getting a boot on it) and Ronaldo took the shot so early it took Skrtel (who had tracked the run and was quite tight to him) out of the equation.

 

The broader point I'm making is that they had to work for that and produce a great pass and great finish. I can live with that, I can't live with the other two goals which were just shameful.

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We're nowhere near good enough to win the Europa unless there's a huge transformation. If you believe there will be, then year I can see why you'd want to be in it. If I thought we were capable of winning it I'd want to be in it too, I'm not looking down my nose on that competition specifically, I'm more looking down my nose on how shit we are right now.

 

We'd probably last until the quarters or semi at best before losing to anyone half decent, and in the meantime we'd have dropped a load of points in the league while trying to cope with the demands of it all.

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While Benzema's two goals were certainly avoidable, there was an element of the avoidable about Ronaldo's goal too. When he played the ball to Rodriguez, we had 2 midfielders watching the ball and then trying to close down Rodriguez, and nobody covered Ronaldo's run. In fact it was Gerrard who moved right across, leaving the space for Ronaldo to run in between our 2 centre backs, who couldn't step out as they had to hold their line on the edge of the area.

 

Oh and another thing Dave. I've noticed on this report - and from reading We Go Again - that you often put the words 'each other' as one word.

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Doubt we'll win anything until Rodgers learns to shut up shop and nick a one nil against a better side.  Even the best teams in the world will come unstuck with a we'll score more than you mentality, and currently we're some way away from being one of the best teams in the world.

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The assumption that you try to qualify as the 2nd placed team but if you don't, just come 4th, is extremely flawed. If you strive to get 2nd and fall short, most likely you'll finish 3rd.

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While Benzema's two goals were certainly avoidable, there was an element of the avoidable about Ronaldo's goal too. When he played the ball to Rodriguez, we had 2 midfielders watching the ball and then trying to close down Rodriguez, and nobody covered Ronaldo's run. In fact it was Gerrard who moved right across, leaving the space for Ronaldo to run in between our 2 centre backs, who couldn't step out as they had to hold their line on the edge of the area.

 

Oh and another thing Dave. I've noticed on this report - and from reading We Go Again - that you often put the words 'each other' as one word.

In fairness, I reckon he was pissed when he wrote that.

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The first goal was a result of Ronaldo reading the defence, making a positive run and James reading it and playing a great ball. As Dave U said Lovren was only a long stud away from diverting the ball and the only thing more Skrtel could have done was foul Ronaldo and then spend the rest of the match watching from the stands.

BTW the 2nd was described as a top class header during live commentary - watch again the distance it went and where in the top corner it went to leave Mignolet a spectator.  It was only on review that the lack of marking turned it into a "bad goal".

The 3rd was atrocious Balotelli, Lovren and Skrtel(?) all got caught under the cross-ball and that is totally unacceptable!

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Last night was soul-destroying, Dave. Madrid barely broke a sweat - it was all too easy for them. And as for that Markovic, I can forgive many, many things in a Liverpool player - and especially one who's young, new and in a foreign country - but I cannot forgive him being an utter shithouse. His first run at a ball down the inside right channel with half a yard headstart on Varane (I think) saw him give up as soon as the defender drew level with him. He was utterly gutless, regardless of his hipster pedigree: Lazar Downing. 

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In fairness, I reckon he was pissed when he wrote that.

 

What, We Go Again? At least it explains why he always forgets about Fridge Magnet Friday.

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The first goal was a result of Ronaldo reading the defence, making a positive run and James reading it and playing a great ball. As Dave U said Lovren was only a long stud away from diverting the ball and the only thing more Skrtel could have done was foul Ronaldo and then spend the rest of the match watching from the stands.

BTW the 2nd was described as a top class header during live commentary - watch again the distance it went and where in the top corner it went to leave Mignolet a spectator.  It was only on review that the lack of marking turned it into a "bad goal".

The 3rd was atrocious Balotelli, Lovren and Skrtel(?) all got caught under the cross-ball and that is totally unacceptable!

 

The second was Mignoet, same thing happened against West Ham. How many times does he get lobbed off his line? either come out and get a hand on it, or stay in your goal. The third was Mignolet as well, shit house move sticking his feet out instead of going head first.

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While Benzema's two goals were certainly avoidable, there was an element of the avoidable about Ronaldo's goal too. When he played the ball to Rodriguez, we had 2 midfielders watching the ball and then trying to close down Rodriguez, and nobody covered Ronaldo's run. In fact it was Gerrard who moved right across, leaving the space for Ronaldo to run in between our 2 centre backs, who couldn't step out as they had to hold their line on the edge of the area.

 

Oh and another thing Dave. I've noticed on this report - and from reading We Go Again - that you often put the words 'each other' as one word.

 

 

Splitter!

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£36m for Mario and Markovic. Oh. Sweet. Jesus. Or to put it another way, £71m for those two plus Carroll. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......

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£36m for Mario and Markovic. Oh. Sweet. Jesus. Or to put it another way, £71m for those two plus Carroll. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......

 

and and because of them we concede a fuckload of goals. Defense and midfield is tip-top mate. Balotelli played one game with partner in attack (Spurs) and Markovic never played in his position, he's not a winger. Yes, these r the issues. Fuck spending 20mil on shite CB, keeping Enrique, Skrtel, Kolo & Johnson, not buying DM. Fuck off.

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and and because of them we concede a fuckload of goals. Defense and midfield is tip-top mate. Balotelli played one game with partner in attack (Spurs) and Markovic never played in his position, he's not a winger. Yes, these r the issues. Fuck spending 20mil on shite CB, keeping Enrique, Skrtel, Kolo & Johnson, not buying DM. Fuck off.

 

It's not an either or scenario. They can all be horrible purchases. As it stands, Balotelli, Markovic, Lovren and Sakho were terrible buys.

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Most of Rogers' buys have been terrible haven't they...?!

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Most of Rogers' buys have been terrible haven't they...?!

For the money spent, woeful.

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