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Should Glen Johnson get a new contract?

    With just a year and a bit remaining on his current deal, Liverpool have a decision to make on Glen Johnson this summer. Do they offer him a new deal on his existing terms, try to convince him to sign for less money, move him on for whatever they can get or perhaps let him see out the final year of his current deal before testing the free agent market? Three TLW contributors share their thoughts...


 

Despite his (let’s be kind here) erratic recent form, Glen Johnson is a quality player on his day. He’s a valuable attacking asset and has formed part of cohesive defensive units under previous managers. This season has been a different story however; Johnson’s form has been well below what’s been expected from him. It’s a mark of how well others have done in his absence, and how poorly Johnson has performed when he has played, that not renewing his contract and cutting our losses by selling him is now more of a certainty than keeping him.

 

In the background of all this is the negotiations themselves. Johnson’s reported to be unwilling to take a pay cut from the handsome £100,000+ per week he earns. Now whilst it’s justifiable that the player shouldn’t want to take a pay cut (would you if you were him?), he really has to be mindful of the surroundings he now finds himself in. The club has spent a great deal of time and effort reducing the wage bill down to something more manageable for a team that’s not in the Champions League. Johnson’s current contract is a throwback to another era and it’s incredibly unlikely that we’ll see its like again. The club now prefers to reward players with big contracts based on their age, how valuable they are as an asset and their long term form. On all three of those tenets Johnson falls down. He’s getting on in age, there’s not a lot of resale value to be had from him and his form has been ‘erratic’ at best.

 

In any sport, the usual rule of thumb is that a player will play his best stuff in a ‘contract’ year; showing how off how good he is to add on the extra cash when the negotiations roll around. That works on two fronts, either their current employer has to pay up, or another team will swoop in because they’ve seen a high performing player who can be brought in without much trouble. In most sports that usually means the final year of the contract but as football works slightly differently, it usually means the 18 months before the contract is due to expire. In Johnson’s case that hasn’t happened, in fact he’s played like he’s been sulking because he’s not got what he wanted. It has emerged that he’s been carrying injuries so that explains the poor performances, but it doesn’t excuse what appears to be a poor attitude, especially when he’s lost the ball or tracking a runner.

 

Not to pre-judge anything but the way this season is panning out, it looks like we’ll be returning to at least some sort of European football next season. That requires a much larger squad than we currently have so any transfers that happen in the summer, I’d prefer them to be weighted 80/20 if favour of incoming players. There should be no reason to ship out any player who currently plays in the first team in the summer; we need reinforcements, not wholesale changes. Having said all of that, that only includes Johnson if he’s willing to take a substantial pay cut. If he thinks that he’s worth more than Liverpool are offering then he should be our guest and test the waters of being a free signing. There aren’t many teams in England who will offer him what Liverpool is offering him which is (apparently) £70,000 a week and probable Champions League football. If he thinks he can do better than that, well then see you later, Glen.

 

Despite his performances this season and his injury problems, I’ve always got a place in my squad for good players and despite thoughts elsewhere to the contrary, Glen Johnson is a good player. Like the Million Dollar Man said “everyone has a price”, and for Johnson that price is a lot lower than he currently perceives it to be. There’s a contract on the table for Johnson, it shouldn’t go any higher so it’s his choice whether he sticks or twists. I hope he sticks but I’ll lose no sleep if he twists. Let’s just hope that he’s not left twisting in the wind.

 

 

Julian Richards

 


 

It wasn’t long ago Glen Johnson was viewed as a crucial member of the Liverpool side-and rightly so. This past autumn, in the midst of a period during which the Englishman was out due to injury, Brendan Rodgers acknowledged that Johnson was the type of player whose absence truly underscored his importance to the team. At the time it was easy to see why; with more than enough pace to maintain the high line the manager prefers, as well as the skill and technique to offer a genuine threat in attack, Johnson appeared the prototypical fullback for the new Liverpool. 

 

As we near the end of Year Two in the Rodgers era, it’s difficult to determine what exactly went wrong. To the delight of supporters, the Reds have unleashed a scintillating attacking blend, relying on intricate passing and movement, as well as on breakneck counterattacks-both areas for which Johnson would seem ideally suited. However, the fullback has looked well off the pace for most of the season: clumsy in possession and unpredictable in terms of his decision making.

 

As the Liverpool brain trust ponder whether or not to offer Johnson a new deal, the crucial question remains: Which Johnson would such a contract land them? The fullback was unconvincing in his return to action against Swansea last weekend, although the long layoff and his deployment on the left, rather than on his preferred right side are reason enough to withhold judgment until the end of the season.

 

Regardless of Johnson’s play over the next eleven matches, however, I don’t think he’s worth renewing at his current salary. His erratic form, checkered injury history and age make that too risky a proposition.  But the risks of losing Johnson are significant as well. This season Liverpool have suffered the consequences of discontinuity at the back; with a series of question marks surrounding Liverpool’s immediate future at the other three back line positions, the potential loss of Johnson could further unsettle the Reds’ defence. 

 

Moreover, for all the offensive fireworks on display this season, Rodgers’ side have managed a paltry two goals in their three games away to the Top Three. Take nothing away from Liverpool’s impressive offensive output, but it’s going to take more than a sparkling front four to break down the stingiest defences at the most hostile grounds-in England and in Europe. In order to fully realise his vision, Rodgers’ system requires at least one fullback who can provide a legitimate threat in attack-and Glen Johnson is the only player in the squad truly capable of that feat. 

 

 

For those reasons I say let’s give Glen a chance to prove himself over these next eleven matches. If he can return to a level at or near his best, I think the Reds would do well to secure his services at a slightly reduced salary, providing of course Johnson is willing to accept that. In a back line lacking in both consistency and attacking prowess, Johnson’s future contributions could be vital. 

 

Joel Tracy

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At his best, Glen Johnson is a devastating attacking full back whose class and composure on the ball would make him a nailed on first choice for any team in the country. Many times last season and at the start of this campaign, his ability to glide past opponents on either side regardless of which flank he happened to be on opened up an obdurate 11-behind-the-ball defence and created space inside for the likes of Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho or Gerrard to exploit. Furthermore, on the back foot he was no slouch either, regularly showing that tales of his defensive mediocrity were very much over-cooked.

 

And yet - yes that's right: there's a huge proviso coming - he's wildly inconsistent. For every 8 or 9 out of 10 performance, how many 4s or 5s are there? It's certainly more than one or two. You know what I mean: the half-arsed tracking, the lack of awareness of what's around him, the lazy pass to opposing feet or the overly ambitious cut-inside-and-hit-it effort. This season such performances have become the norm which is utterly galling as I had thought he'd finally turned a corner after last season when he was mostly sublime.

 

So you can clearly see I'm erring on the side of answering in the negative to this question - and that's before we mention the obscenity of his wage packet for this degree of output. It strikes me that he's had a new deal on his mind for a while - but not necessarily at Liverpool. He's been learning Italian for few years now and also knocked back an extension to his current contract on reduced, but still generous terms last year. Frankly, he must know that in this FSG-instigated "value is all" era he hasn't got a hope in hell of a six figures a week wedge at almost 30 years of age and so his gaze is turning towards pastures new.

 

That said, I'm still not averse to re-signing him. The problem is that the terms I'd offer, though potentially very generous, would be heavily weighted towards appearances in the context of his variable fitness and form, and therefore unlikely to be accepted by Johnson himself. So the most realistic response to this question is no - but that's not because I wouldn't have him; it's more that he wouldn't like what I was offering and I suspect that that is exactly how it will play out this summer: he will leave the club on a free to release his fat wedge from the balance sheet and ensure that other clubs can afford him as a free agent. And if that opens up the way for Jon Flanagan to continue his development in the Liverpool first team, even better.

 

 

Paul Natton

 

 


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Thank fuck.  Over-rated shite from day one.  Selling a far better player to Madrid for peanuts jst added insult to injury.

 

Compounded by then selling another better player to Palace for peanuts.

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A loyal servant and model professional who gave his all here, he turned down top clubs to sign for us and ignored interest while here.

 

He's been treated poorly by fans the last two seasons and seems to have been made one of the scapegoats.

 

Injuries have hurt him the last two years but he still contributed towards to our title challenge last year, I wish him all the best and don't see us getting a rb that is better then a fully fit GJ.

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A loyal servant and model professional who gave his all here, he turned down top clubs to sign for us and ignored interest while here.

 

He's been treated poorly by fans the last two seasons and seems to have been made one of the scapegoats.

 

Injuries have hurt him the last two years but he still contributed towards to our title challenge last year, I wish him all the best and don't see us getting a rb that is better then a fully fit GJ.

Not good enough for Chelsea, and unsigned by any rival top four clubs or quality Euro opposition, Johnson is amongst the poorest specialist full backs we have had. Pompey was about right for him.

 

A very good footballer, he would have fitted in well to a German side playing 352.

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A loyal servant and model professional who gave his all here, he turned down top clubs to sign for us and ignored interest while here.

 

He's been treated poorly by fans the last two seasons and seems to have been made one of the scapegoats.

 

Injuries have hurt him the last two years but he still contributed towards to our title challenge last year, I wish him all the best and don't see us getting a rb that is better then a fully fit GJ.

 

Agreed.

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A loyal servant and model professional who gave his all here, he turned down top clubs to sign for us and ignored interest while here.

 

He's been treated poorly by fans the last two seasons and seems to have been made one of the scapegoats.

 

Injuries have hurt him the last two years but he still contributed towards to our title challenge last year, I wish him all the best and don't see us getting a rb that is better then a fully fit GJ.

 

Enigmatic and well out of his depth.

 

Like Glen Johnson.

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Having medical at Stoke....

Can't think of a better way of getting someone back for beating us 6-1

Cue a 30 yard stunner from him when we play them first game of the season.

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A loyal servant and model professional who gave his all here, he turned down top clubs to sign for us and ignored interest while here.

 

He's been treated poorly by fans the last two seasons and seems to have been made one of the scapegoats.

 

Injuries have hurt him the last two years but he still contributed towards to our title challenge last year, I wish him all the best and don't see us getting a rb that is better then a fully fit GJ.

Excellent trolling JP.

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Given that he turned down £60k a week from us, I wonder how much Stoke will be paying him.

Probably no more . He's gone to play football to be fair . Borini should take note and do one

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Excellent trolling JP.

What I said there was spot on, he was a good player for us and struggled the last couple of years.I never understood fans criticising him when he is one player who turned down big clubs and money to sign for us and was a loyal servant.

 

As soon as I heard about him joining Stoke I keep getting flashbacks of him cutting in on his left foot and banging one in, hopefully that's not a premonition for the first game.

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I never understood fans criticising him when he is one player who turned down big clubs and money to sign for us and was a loyal servant.

What big clubs made a formal offer for him?

 

I think you will find that the so called interest was a figment of his agents' imagination as he negotiated a new contract.

 

He was a "loyal servant" insofar as he knew he had struck lucky with his wages and could never get a similar deal again, as has been proved he case.

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What big clubs made a formal offer for him?

 

I think you will find that the so called interest was a figment of his agents' imagination as he negotiated a new contract.

 

He was a "loyal servant" insofar as he knew he had struck lucky with his wages and could never get a similar deal again, as has been proved he case.

Chelsea and City had both agreed fees for him when we signed him, he turned down both for LFC.Theres also been strong speculation at times while he was here that Real Madrid and Juventus wanted him also although I don't know if true.

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Chelsea and City had both agreed fees for him when we signed him, he turned down both for LFC.Theres also been strong speculation at times while he was here that Real Madrid and Juventus wanted him also although I don't know if true.

No bids were accepted, by City or Chelsea ,that was just his agent hyping our bid ( which he did very successfully). You may recall that Chelsea had let Johnson go deeming him not good enough at the highest level- they were right. Interest from Juve and Madrid was of the Sam Allardyce variety.

 

Over recent years our best players have been cherry-picked by the top clubs, while Johnson has remained, free ultimately to join Stoke. And that is about right.

 

Johnson is a fine footballer, but was never a fine defender, for anyone.

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Very good player on his day. His memory seems to be soured by external factors such as his association with other London clubs, his wage and his perceived poor attitude. His legacy reminds me of many of our players in the 90s, good players won't be recognised as such for factors outside their control.

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It will not actually happen, of course. Not unless Agustí Benedito wins the election that is being held next Saturday. Benedito, a 51-year-old with a chain of car dealerships and experience from two previous elections, says he would rather sign Marco Verratti from Paris Saint-Germain and that if he is elected Turan will be sent back. The transfer was set up by the outgoing board and finalised by a theoretically independent temporary committee who added the clause to enable Benedito, or whoever wins, to do just that – at a cost of €3.4m to Barcelona, 10% of the fee.

 

Huh? Well, I guess that makes it ok.

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No bids were accepted, by City or Chelsea ,that was just his agent hyping our bid ( which he did very successfully). You may recall that Chelsea had let Johnson go deeming him not good enough at the highest level- they were right. Interest from Juve and Madrid was of the Sam Allardyce variety.

 

Over recent years our best players have been cherry-picked by the top clubs, while Johnson has remained, free ultimately to join Stoke. And that is about right.

 

Johnson is a fine footballer, but was never a fine defender, for anyone.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jun/16/glen-johnson-transfer-liverpool-portsmouth

 

According to Andy Hunter City and Chelsea did bid while GJ opted for LFC.The speculation about Real and Juventus might have been bs although they were looking for rbs at the time, the speculation was strong at the time but GJ didn't say a word about any speculation even though we were shite at the time and others big names were leaving.

 

For that reason he should be respected especially when we see cunts like Sterling disrespecting the club and saying he's flattered to be linked to other clubs publicly.

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Very good player on his day. His memory seems to be soured by external factors such as his association with other London clubs, his wage and his perceived poor attitude. His legacy reminds me of many of our players in the 90s, good players won't be recognised as such for factors outside their control.

Forgot to mention his hair do.

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For that reason he should be respected especially when we see cunts like Sterling disrespecting the club and saying he's flattered to be linked to other clubs publicly.

My memory of the Chelsea interest was blurry, I stand corrected, but they dodged a bullet, didn't they?

 

We share a contempt for Sterling. You see Johnson as loyal, I see him as someone who earned way beyond their ability as a defender, and knew it. We all have our own opinions.

 

I always thought that he would be perfect playing for a German side in a 352- instead he has chosen Stoke it seems.

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