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Liverpool 2 West Brom 3 (Jan 27 2018)



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Dave Usher at Anfield
 
 
 
After the Swansea defeat I was annoyed and frustrated more than anything else. After this loss, my biggest feeling is worry. It's only two games, but even so, it just feels like things might be getting away from us, just like they did this time last year. Losing to West Brom is bad enough, but the way we lost has to have set massive alarm bells ringing off for Klopp. 
 
I’m trying not to panic because I said earlier in the season that the way the team responded to the loss at Spurs means they deserve the benefit of the doubt the next time they let themselves down. An impressive 18 game unbeaten run means they deserve some slack. Two bad results does not undo all the progress we’ve seen this season and I don’t want to be a massive shithouse and jump overboard at the first sign of trouble, but I’d be lying if I said my confidence hasn’t been shaken by the events of this past week. 
 
Not so much the Swansea game as that was just one of those things that can happen to anyone. They wanted to defend for their lives and play for a goalless draw, but they took advantage of a set-piece and then rode their luck to hold on for a win. We didn’t play well but we didn't get any of the breaks in that game either. You could argue it was unlucky. 
 
This defeat was much worse because we did get virtually all of the breaks and still lost. Deservedly. West Brom didn’t just sit back and they were good value for their win. It wasn't a park the bus smash and grab. They actually looked like they’d score every time they got anywhere near our box. It was a chastening experience and we looked an absolute shambles. 
 
Klopp has occasionally taken liberties with his team selections in the cup competitions but you can’t accuse him of not taking this one seriously. He picked more or less his strongest team, which makes the defeat even more alarming really as we can’t even use the ‘weakened side’ excuse. We threw the best we had at the team that is second from bottom in the table, and we came up short. 
 
What went wrong? I don’t even know. The easiest thing is to say everything. Not much went right, that’s for sure. The forwards aren’t at their best right now, but they weren't that bad though and did put two goals on the board, which should be enough to win. Defensively we were a joke and the midfield didn’t help out at either end of the pitch. It was just a mess. I’d like to think that Klopp knows what the problems are and how to fix them, but I suspect he was just as fucking perplexed at what went on as the rest of us were. 
 
Talk about the loss of Coutinho all you like, and clearly that hasn’t helped, but it’s much more than that. It wasn’t the absence of Coutinho that allowed West Brom to score three times in the first half. Four if you count the one that we were fortunate to see ruled out by the video ref. I’ll get to that whole farcical situation in due course though, as there’s a lot I want to say about it. 
 
Going back to the team selection for a second, the only thing I could take issue with was the choice of goalkeeper. I know this is how it usually works, with one taking the league games and the other getting the cups, but the situation changed when Mignolet was dumped the other week. This wasn’t like before, when he knew he just needed to bide his time and fight to regain his place. He’s finished here now and he knows it, so why play him? What possible benefit is there in that decision? 
 
If Karius turns out to be shite that doesn’t change Mignolet’s situation at all, as it just means Klopp will buy another keeper in the summer. He almost certainly will anyway but in the meantime he may as well have a proper look at Karius just to see if he’s worth keeping around. The Mig is done here though, so why bring him back in to play in the cup? Is he going to get the Champions League games now too? I’d assume not. Mignolet wasn’t the reason we lost, but he certainly didn’t help as he was crap. 
 
Then there’s Moreno. He came in for Robertson but looked rusty after his lay off. Robertson should be - and hopefully is - first choice now, but he’s played a lot of football lately and I’ve got no issue with him being rested for this one. Similarly on the opposite flank, Trent coming in for Gomez made sense, as the plan was to be on the front foot and his delivery should have given us a more productive outlet down the right. Should have, but didn’t. He was terrible, but the decision to start him was the right one. 
 
So overall I’m happy that Klopp tried to go as strong as possible and that he took the game seriously. We need to win trophies and if I thought he’d prioritised the Huddersfield game in midweek I’d have been pissed off. He didn’t do that, but having lost the game anyway we would have been better off if he had done. Now we go to Huddersfield with some heavy legs. 
 
West Brom had half a dozen players missing with flu, but Pardew still went with two strikers and although their 4-4-2 looked pretty defensive on paper, that’s not how it played out as they were not hesitant in getting midfield players forward when possible. Credit to them, they played well. We were garbage though, despite getting off to the perfect start with an early goal. 
 
The goal was a gift and did not come from good build up play, but no-one was complaining. Johnny Evans looked to be in no trouble as he chased a through ball ahead of Salah, but for some reason he decided to leave it for his goalkeeper who had no chance of getting there. Mo nipped in and although Foster did well to keep out his low shot, Bobby pounced and dinked the rebound over everyone and into the net. Lovely finish that. 
 
It was a present though and just what we needed after the Swansea game, but we failed to take advantage of it and immediately allowed them to equalise pretty much right from the kick off. Brilliant finish from Rodriguez, but defensively it was poor. Very poor. Wijnaldum lost possession, Trent failed to win it back, Can didn’t react quickly enough and Moreno was too slow to get round on the cover. 
 
It quickly got worse as Rodriguez pounced again. The defending was crap once more. Can was beaten far too easily and then didn’t get back in quickly enough, while Moreno was once again napping and didn’t get round on the cover in time. Too often Moreno just doesn’t think like a defender in those situations and that was the case on both goals, although the second was more egregious than the first. 
 
It was just a collective mess though. I’ve been saying since the summer that Van Dijk wouldn’t stop the goals going in against us because much as some people like to blame Lovren for anything that goes wrong, it’s never been about one player and if anything, we probably concede more when Lovren isn't there (I don't have stats to back that up, it's just a general feeling so if I'm wrong it won't be the first, or last time). Van Dijk should help, otherwise there was no point shelling out all that dough on him, but one player isn’t going to make us water tight even if he’s Hansen, Lawrenson, Carragher and Hyypia rolled into one. 
 
We were all at sea any time they got near our box, it was just shambolic and depressing. This was West Brom, not fucking Man City. It then looked like they’d scored a third from a corner but that’s when all the video nonsense began. Dawson headed in from about three yards out and the whole thing seemed to happen in slow motion. Mignolet and a few defenders appealed for something so the ref called for the video. 
 
It took an eternity but eventually the verdict went in our favour. No-one in the ground seemed to know why it had been disallowed and most around me assumed Dawson had been punished for going over the back of Firmino, but then I got a message from a mate saying it was offside.

 

Having since watched a replay of it I’d say we got lucky. That’s not to say the decision was wrong, it was right because Barry’s big fat arse was marginally offside and as he was stood in front of the keeper technically he was interfering with play. The goal was given initially and had that been a league game we’d have been 3-1 down. So yeah, we got lucky.
 
It was weak from Mignolet. He should have been coming out and dealing with that, and although I accept that Barry’s arse could block out the sun, you still need to find a way around him to deal with the cross and frankly it was pitiful from the Mig, as he didn’t even really try to get past him. Also, what the fuck was Firmino doing ducking underneath the ball instead of heading it away? That was shite too. 
 
The amount of time that was wasted for them to get to that decision seemed a bit excessive but it chalked off a goal against us so no-one inside Anfield was complaining. Apart from Pardew, his players and the Albion fans in the Anny Road of course. They were even more pissed off soon after when Salah went tumbling in the box and immediately started yelling at the ref to go to the video. He did, and this is where it got confusing.

 

On the previous one he waited until he was told in his headset that the goal shouldn’t stand. On this, he waited for a while and then decided to go over to the touchline himself and have a look at the screen. Why didn’t he do that on the first one? Did the video ref tell him he needed to look for himself? I honestly have no idea how the fuck any of this works. 
 
No-one sat around me had a fucking clue what was happening, but then he came back on the pitch and pointed to the spot so again, no complaints from us. It was the right decision too. Mo milked it a bit but he was cleared pulled back by Livermore and having seen a replay of it the ref had to give it. Great this VAR thing isn’t it? Well no actually, but I’ll get to that in a second. 
 
Firmino was the obvious choice to take the pen as he’d be the one I trusted most of those on the field. I didn’t trust him much though if I’m honest, and I wasn’t shocked that he missed. I think Bobby’s problem is trying to be too precise. The last one he missed hit the inside of the post, this one hit the underside of the bar. Both close to being perfect, but both missed, and both costly. 
 
It proved to be a massive turning point as in first half stoppage time West Brom scored a third. I’m not happy at all about this one as it should never have stood. Firstly, the free kick that led to it was never a foul. Mané got the ball and Barry bought a free-kick by feigning contact when there didn’t look to be any. Secondly, when the free-kick is played forward Dawson is offside. I thought he was at the time and the replay confirms it, as the below screenshot (taken at the moment the free kick was taken) shows. 
 
Not only that, but when he won the header the player in the middle who went for it was definitely offside (see the second screenshot), but because Van Dijk beat him to the ball the linesman didn’t flag. Sorry, that’s bollocks. Is Van Dijk supposed to leave it in the hope that the linesman has spotted the offside and puts his flag up? He headed the ball away to stop it reaching a forward in an offside position. Dawson was trying to pick him out, the player himself moves towards the ball, it’s FUCKING OFFSIDE. 
 

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I even thought Dawson was offside when it came back to him the second time, but it turns out he was level. He hit the ball across Mignolet but Matip’s attempted clearance was fucking shocking and it hit him and went over the line. Because it looked like Dawson may have been offside they went to the video again but this time the goal stood. What were they looking at, because as shown above there were two offsides in the build up. Do they not count? How far back are they allowed to go when reviewing it? Load of shite. 
 
That isn’t even the reason I’m not down with the VAR though. I hate it because it completely kills the moment. West Brom went 3-1 up at Anfield but couldn’t celebrate it because it went to the video and they'd been burned twice by it already. By the time the officials looked at it and gave the goal, the moment had completely passed and it was embarrassing looking at the Albion players because they didn’t know what to do or who to celebrate with. It’s shit and if this comes in for every game it will completely kill the emotion of the moment. 
 
When the ball hits the net you go wild. Occasionally, if there's something a little bit iffy you may have a quick look at the ref or linesman to see if they aren’t signalling anything before you completely lose it, but generally it's a split second emotional response and that moment of unbridled joy is the best thing about watching football. This shit is going to take that away from us though. Ask West Brom fans how they felt about that third goal. Going 3-1 up at Anfield should have been an amazing moment they'd remember for the rest of their lives. They still will I suppose, but for all the wrong reasons.  

 

Tell you what else was fucked up. Four minutes stoppage time at the end of the half? There was four minutes for the first VAR alone, at least two minutes on the second and in between that West Brom had two players need treatment on the pitch for hamstring injuries that forced them off soon after. There should have been at least eight minutes added on, but that would have been embarrassing for the officials so they cut it in half to save face. 
 
And those hamstring injuries.... bit of a co-incidence they came so soon after the game was stopped for those decisions, don't you think? Pardew blamed the stoppages for the injuries and I reckon he’s got a case. So in short, I’m not on board with VAR and hope it doesn’t come in full time. It probably will though, and it'll be yet another nail in the coffin of football.
 
Anyway, the second half started the same way the first had ended and West Brom had a couple of dangerous moments in the opening minutes. The crowd were ready to turn now but in fairness the players then got a grip of the game and forced West Brom back. Not that they needed much encouragement to sit back, as it reached a point where they decided a two goal lead was enough and they battoned down the hatches and prepared for a siege that didn’t really come. 
 
We had a few moments here and there but never built up a proper head of steam. For once Klopp didn’t fuck about with his subs and he made a triple change just after the hour. It didn’t turn the game for us but it did see some improvement. Ox and Can were obvious candidates for the hook but I’d have dragged Wijnaldum off too. Instead it was Mané, who in fairness couldn’t really have any complaints. 
 
His performance was weird. I felt in the first half that he looked quite sharp but he kept taking the safe option and was always looking to lay it off instead of go himself. There were several opportunities for him to drive at his man, cut inside and shoot, but he was reluctant to do it. Then in the second half he just wasn’t doing anything. Ings was more of a threat in the short time he was on. At least he wanted to work the goalkeeper. 
 
Henderson came on and was immediately about five levels up from anything we’ve seen from the rest of our midfield since the City game. He passed the ball with purpose, with a bit of zip on the ball and - most importantly - ahead of his intended target so they were able to take the ball on the run and not have to wait for it or go backwards to collect it. It’s a basic thing but some of our players just don’t seem to bother with it. I'm fed up of seeing the ball passed behind people.
 
By passing it with pace in front of someone it gives them that extra split second of space before the opposition shuffle across. I’m sick of seeing our players having to wait for a pass to arrive at their feet because it’s not been hit crisply enough. Henderson didn’t do anything special and yet it still elevated our play, which goes to show how little those other crabs had contributed. 
 
Big Sexy had an absolute ‘mare. Don’t ever make him captain again. He’s had the armband twice and we’ve lost to the bottom two teams in the league. Even allowing for the valid argument that a player refusing to sign a contract should not be captain, the lad is a fucking jinx anyway. I like him and I think he’s had a solid season, but he was proper shite in this game. 
 
The midfield now concerns me deeply. Losing Coutinho has left a massive creative void in there but with a fully fit Lallana available between now and May we’d be able to cope. That’s not going to happen though is it? He’s been missing virtually all season and then just as it looked like he was ready to come back in, he’s fucking injured again. It’s always muscle injuries with him and it’s never a short term thing either. We can’t count on him, and if we can’t count on him then we’re in trouble. 
 
Realistically, is this midfield going to have enough to secure a top four spot? We concede too many goals and when teams deny the front three space to run into it reduces their effectiveness by at least 50%. When that happens we need the midfield to help out but they’re basically all just water carriers. Where the inspirational player in there? There isn’t one. Not paying that extra to get Naby Keita is understandable on a matter of principle, but this midfield really needs help right now and it doesn’t look like the cavalry are coming any time soon. 
 
When we got back to 3-2 there was plenty of time left and we had momentum. We should have got something out of the game from there but it quickly fizzled out and went flat again. The delivery from out wide was shocking, whether it was Trent slinging in high hopeful balls that provided nothing other than catching practice for Foster, or Ox and then Milner delivering shite corners, it just wasn’t good enough. 
 
But I have some sympathy for those putting in crosses because what did they have to aim for? Ings and Firmino were usually the only ones in the box but I doubt if Trent and Moreno could even see them given all the height West Brom had in there. Not least that big Egyptian fucker who looks like he should have been running out at the Royal Rumble this weekend rather than at Anfield. What Foster didn’t catch he was just heading away. 
 
Until stoppage time when finally, FINALLY, Van Dijk went up top and hey, guess what, he almost scored with a header. This is what is doing my fucking head in at the moment with Klopp. The other night at Swansea we needed a goal and there was zero chance of a counter attack as Swansea were in all out defence mode. Yet Van Dijk only went up right at the end. He was the one who picked the ball up in the box and crossed for Firmino to almost grab us a point. This time he goes up and almost scores himself. 
 
Next time we’re in this situation, get him up there with ten minutes to go and throw the fucking kitchen sink at them. If teams want to defend their own box and deny us space to play through, fine, let’s take advantage of that and sling some crosses in to the big man. Don’t be too proud to do it, Jurgen, don’t forget it wasn’t that long ago you were throwing Steven Caulker on as a battering ram late in games (and having some success with it too). 
 
We need to get the rig back on the road now because we saw this time last year how quickly a season can be derailed. We just about managed to rally and sneak fourth spot last season but it’s going to be harder this year as the competition is so fierce. A couple of weeks ago we looked shoe ins for the top four, but then Coutinho was sold, we’ve had two terrible performances and all of a sudden it feels as though we’re the ones most at risk. 
 
We have to beat Huddersfield this week and then at the very least not lose to Spurs, otherwise a couple of bad results could turn into slump and a crisis of confidence. A couple of wins and we can just put this down to a minor blip. As I said though, I'm worried.
 
Star man is…. hell I don’t even know. Henderson, Ings, Firmino and Van Dijk weren’t terrible but two of them weren’t on long enough for me to justify giving it to them and the other two were just ok, nothing more. Can I give it to the video?  
 
 

Team: Mignolet; Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Moreno; Can (Henderson), Wijnaldum, Oxlade-Chamberlain (Milner); Salah, Firmino, Mané (Ings):


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Great report Dave , loving Barry's arse being offside.

 

In amongst a load of worries , I think we need a bit more stability in the team going forward,particularly defensively. I read on the BBC last night that in the first 24 league games last season we made 39 changes and this season we have made 98 changes. Obviously there is Europe this season , but averaging 4 changes a game seems a lot.

 

Putting the woes of the past week to one side, results have generally been good & hopefully the rotation has kept players relatively fit so I would be looking to nail down a settled back 4 other than injuries. I would go Karius, Gomez, Lovren , VvD, Robertson. Defenders particularly need to build partnerships & with VvD now on board I think it's time to get it sorted.

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With regards to the small amount of stoppage time in the first half, that's another area where a bit more clarity is required. I think the referee stopped the watch each time VAR was used so the only real time to be added on was for those injury stoppages. Like I said, more clarity is required so everybody knows what is going on.

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Totally agree that Mig should never have been put in goal, but also Can should not be getting picked at all now, never mind being captain, if as it seems he's already decided to fuck off to Juventus.

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With regards to the small amount of stoppage time in the first half, that's another area where a bit more clarity is required. I think the referee stopped the watch each time VAR was used so the only real time to be added on was for those injury stoppages. Like I said, more clarity is required so everybody knows what is going on.

 

Do not think that is right. The tv clock did not stop for VAR and that only showed 45 + 4 mins added time when the ref blew for the end of the half. The tv clock would have showed 45 + 8 or 9 mins added time if that was the case. As I keep saying though, every major VAR decision was right. What was wrong was the time taken to decide incidents and the crowd not knowing what was happening. That is what they need to sort out.

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Mignolet and the two full backs were the selection issues for me. Moreno rusty, but so was TAA, only having playing one game and a short sub appearance since the game he scored in.

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We do get into these ruts a few times a season. A lot of people on here like to blame individuals for errors but for me they come as a by product of the tactical set up. Usually when we score early or a team plays an open game we rip them to shreds. Every so often a team plays negatively and shuts the space off inside and we really struggle badly to create and then that starts a rut of poor performances. I think the Swansea game has rattled our attack and has led to this game. This obviously wasn’t a classic case here as West Brom actually attacked us but after they got their goals and needed to defend they had it easy because we haven’t got a clue what to do.

 

Dave mentions in the report players playing passes behind players. For me it’s because our tactical set up always gives the players 2 or 3 easy outs and they’re more than happy oblige because the difficult pass usually has two players on him. We can’t switch the play quickly enough because we don’t have enough players wide. The extra players are standing in a line across the centre of the pitch. The 3 midfielders all pass it to each other meaning it’s 2 or 3 passes to switch the play and then because it’s so slow the opposition just shuffle over.

 

It baffles me that Klopp can’t see it. This game in particular the full backs just refused to overlap which then made the situation even worse. I don’t know if this is something Klopp has specifically told them to not do as it was both of them. You don’t need to be 6ft 5 centre forward if the wide player can’t get to the byline and smash it across goal. You do need a 6ft 5 centre forward if the wide player wants to cross balls from 20+ yards from the byline.

 

We can all suck each other’s cocks about how many goals Salah has scored but in reality the team is struggling because of a lack of width and we are out of the two domestic cups in games we should have won and lost to Swansea leaving us ina precarious position in the league. In my opinion Salah scores his goals whatever wing he’s on.

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The Swansea manager worked us out the other week and told everyone the blueprint when he was using the London traffic example.

 

Salah & Mane cant go outside the fullbacks due to being so one footed and always have to check their runs to come inside. Therefore, park 5 men across the 18 yard line and hold it. Have your midfielders dropping back to close down all space in between as they know we haven't got a proper striker who has the nous to run in behind for any through balls and a pathetic midfield who cant score.

 

Bide your time and we run out of steam after 20 minutes and you can get out of your half to get a corner / free kick and the panic will soon set in.

 

All Klopp's got to do to combat this is switch Salah and Mane to their natural side, have them getting the old chalk on the boots and get in behind the full backs and get in that way. He can be too stubborn in staying with the same tactics week in week out and its been proven since he's been here that teams can work us out pretty quick yet he takes to long to address it.

 

We need to freshen things up, have a rejig of our tactics and lets get on another 18 game unbeaten run.

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The swansea manager did not work us out. He just used a different phrase to parking the bus. Teams have good spells and bad spells. If you have ambitions to be a good team your bad spells are generally a lot shorter than your good ones. Hence the 2 defeats in 20. I do not think anyone is not concerned at the latest defeat. Hysterical fannies will always chuck the toys out with any loss. We looked a shambles at the back virtually from the kick off. Mignolet was the wosrt I have ever seen him almost like 2 fingers up to Klopp. He was lucky to get away with that ruled out goal. I guess the writing was on the wall with Can but I am surprised Klopp is still playing him as it is all confirmed he is running down his contract. But for all the shambolic performance we would have got a draw if Bobby had done the business from 12 yards. Some people might not like the fact the Huddersfield game is upon us so quick but the players and manager have to view it as getting back on the horse again. A game that should not be tough is now very tough but the players have to give their all and make sure they do not lose under any circumstances. The 3 points would be very welcome though.

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Good report, Dave. I didn't see the game, but based on your description I share your concerns and think we really ought to be looking to bolster the team this window.

 

As for VAR, if they want the fans to know what is happening they need to go down the route of American Football, where the referees' conversation is broadcast to the stadium. At least then everyone knows what they are looking at and what the decision is.

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It's difficult not to worry when we've seen us hit these sudden slumps so many times before. There are numerous parallels with this time last season:-

 

1. Beat Man City and send the fanbase into euphoria.

2. Lose a key attacker and fail to replace him. (Albeit a temporary loss last season)

3. Labour to a 3rd round FA cup win against a team of losers ;-).

4. Lose in FA Cup 4th round at Anfield.

 

Hopefully it ends there and this becomes a blip rather than a slump.

 

I'm also not OK with not spending in January. Admittedly I'm hypocritical as we lauded Klopp's patience when we eventually signed Van Dyke and rightly so but I still think we could've signed another CB. Maguire for instance would have been relatively cheap and could have done a job. Depending on performance levels then he could either have played with Van Dyke or provide a useful option and we could have easily offloaded someone else to make up the cash.

 

My concern is that we won't compromise on targets and would prefer to wait until the summer. Understandable to a degree but if we don't get top 4 as the squad is thin then we'll end up being forced into looking at plan Cs let alone plan Bs as the top players won't be interested.   

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For some strange reason the officials have become obsessed with not flagging until a player has touched the ball. I don’t know why this ever became a thing. It’s never made sense to me. You hear commentators mention it all the time.

 

It’s so inconsistent as well and none of these arse holes commentating ever highlight it. Sometimes the ball gets nowhere near the player but it was clearly meant for them and the flag goes straight up and then other times, sometimes literally 5 mins later, a player is allowed to sprint 40/50 yards to a ball they are clearly going to get to first and then the flag goes up and the commentator then patronises you with the same shite explanation as if he’s talking to somebody who’s never watched football before explaining what’s happened.

 

I used to think it’s only a matter of time before it leads to an injury due to sprinting unnecessarily or a tackle going in that could have been prevented had they just put the flag. Now though we are getting incidents where the defender has to head it because he can’t know for certain if the player is offside. He’s clearly still active though because the defender is having to take him into account.

 

It’s daft but it won’t be sorted unless the people in the commentary box start picking up on it. The only 2 that are likely to actually be intelligent enough to spot it are Carragher and Neville.

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Interested to know people's thoughts on the third goal and why the two offsides in the build up were not picked up when they looked at the video.

They restrict themselves to the last "phase" of play maybe? Otherwise they might have to go back to the last break in play looking out for things I suppose and that would be egregious.

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I assumed the ref asked Marriner ( Allegedly 200 miles away although it was never mentioned ) to check the guy who crossed the ball and that's all they looked at. They were probably already spooked by the other issues during the first half & not wanting to add to them if they could avoid it.

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Interested to know people's thoughts on the third goal and why the two offsides in the build up were not picked up when they looked at the video.

Everyone in the Main Stand round me went nuts, as we all thought Dawson was offside, but seeing the replay, TAA is so slow coming out,he's just on. As for the earlier offsides, I'm guessing they just didn't wind the replay back long enough. Doesn't surprise me that the lino didn't pick them up - watch MotD any given week, and there's a litany of plainly wrong decisions, including plenty of offsides. One of Leicester's goals on Saturday was just so clearly offside, even in real time, that even the dopey commentary team picked it up.  I think VAR must be retained - I'd be happy for a match to last all night if it meant it wasn't decided by more awful decision-making. BUT - they have to get smarter using it. Mind you, asking Craig Pawson to be both decisive and correct is asking a lot.

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If Sturridge is off to West Brom, we should be asking for Jay Rodriguez in return - looking like the player he was when he got in the England team (and he wouldn't be coming direct from Southampton!). We should also be getting them to send us Ben Foster - quite a novelty on Saturday, watching a keeper actually making saves!

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If Sturridge is off to West Brom, we should be asking for Jay Rodriguez in return - looking like the player he was when he got in the England team (and he wouldn't be coming direct from Southampton!). We should also be getting them to send us Ben Foster - quite a novelty on Saturday, watching a keeper actually making saves!

Foster also kept catching crosses with his hands. I had no idea keepers were allowed to do that.

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Having now watched the game again, some other comments...... West Brom were well worth their win, our whole midfield just went through the motions and Moreno's positional sense was back to its worst.

Do referees sometimes think - 'I know what the rules say, but I just can't be arsed'? Cases in point - throw-ins...... Nyom grabbed at least 10 yards for the throw that ultimately led to their third goal.......6 second rule - Foster took 20 seconds on at least two occasions and an averag of about 15 seconds (only goalie I can remember being penalised for this in recent times? Guess who).

Fehgazi committed an awful lunge on Firmino, should have been minimum yellow  - the hapless Pawson didn't even think it was a foul. Refs as bad as him need VAR and every other bit of technology going.

Klopp's no doubt going to make changes for tomorrow night - unfortunately I don't think we have a big enough squad to enable him to drop everyone who needs dropping from Saturday.

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TAA needs to work on that Dave T , as he was ambling out & within the width of Barry's backside from keeping him onside for the disallowed goal as well.

 

A good five yards then.

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Their third was definitely offside, in relation to the first phase of play, he was off, then became active as soon as he touched the ball.

 

 

we've got players who don't become active after touching the ball, so I can understand the ref getting confused.

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