Colombian wants in but Reds prefer Belgian

Do you think Alan Shearer's main attributes were being big and strong?

Do you think Benteke's main attributes are being big and strong?

Do you think Benteke's main attributes are being big and strong?

I think being big and strong is far more important to his game than being big and strong was to Shearer's.

I think being big and strong is far more important to his game than being big and strong was to Shearer's.

Why's that? I haven't seen enough of him to make that judgment.

Do you think Alan Shearer's main attributes were being big and strong?

More strong than big perhaps, allied with his (atleast early on) pace and powerful shot, yes. It certainly wasn't his silky skill or genius-like creativity and dribbling.

More strong than big perhaps, allied with his (atleast early on) pace and powerful shot, yes. It certainly wasn't his silky skill or genius-like creativity and dribbling.

Ha, you can't just add some other facets of his game.

Yes, it was his strength...well, that and his pace...and the fact he smashed in a worldie from 30 yards every other week.

At his absolute peak, which was at Blackburn, Sutton was the main target man.

Does anyone think Bony is better than Benteke? Cos if Benteke is better then he's worth 32 million??

Still can't believe city paid that money for him, even if it was Jan.

Does anyone think Bony is better than Benteke? Cos if Benteke is better then he's worth 32 million??

Still can't believe city paid that money for him, even if it was Jan.

Using that logic, every forward better than Andy Carroll is worth £35m plus.

What I don't get about this Benteke talk is whether we want him because he's the best available at the money we can spend or whether we want him for the attributes he can bring to the style we intend to play. If it's the latter, it just seems like an odd fit, unless Rodgers is accepting the need for a plan B.

If the former, he's a body. If the latter, he's a somebody.

Shearer used to bully the fuck out of defenders using his size. it was as much a big factor in his game as it is for benteke

Does anyone think Bony is better than Benteke? Cos if Benteke is better then he's worth 32 million??

Still can't believe city paid that money for him, even if it was Jan.

Unless we swap him for Raheem.

Shearer used to bully the fuck out of defenders using his size. it was as much a big factor in his game as it is for benteke

Don't agree with that, he became a shithouse with his physical play when he lost his pace but before that he was just an out and out poacher. The likes of Sutton and Ferdinand used to take a lot of the physical stuff off his shoulders. He was boss Shearer, the last England player I loved. 

Don't agree with that, he became a shithouse with his physical play when he lost his pace but before that he was just an out and out poacher. The likes of Sutton and Ferdinand used to take a lot of the physical stuff off his shoulders. He was boss Shearer, the last England player I loved. 

Yeah, it was only the last couple of years at Newcastle that he was anything approaching a "target man".

At Southampton and Blackburn he was more like Batistuta.

Shearer was incredible in his prime as good an all round striker as i've ever seen.

Just to score the amount of goals he did for numerous shite Newcastle sides is an achievement in itself. 

What I don't get about this Benteke talk is whether we want him because he's the best available at the money we can spend or whether we want him for the attributes he can bring to the style we intend to play. If it's the latter, it just seems like an odd fit, unless Rodgers is accepting the need for a plan B.

 

If the former, he's a body. If the latter, he's a somebody.

The latter would be bollocks anyway so it's a non issue.

If not Benteke, who is the striker we should sign?

Looking at the current group:

Sturridge has the lot. Pace. Decent power. Skill. Shooting. Goals. However, can't be relied upon to stay fit for a meaningful length of time to impact a season.

Ings has several useful attributes. Reasonable pace, strength, finishing, pressing and tenacity. He could become a bigger player for us than we anticipate, or he could also just fail to make the step up, at which point he will remain a decent squad option.

Origi - he has pace to burn. Obviously a youngster, and it looked like he lost his way a bit in France last season, but I think this lad could go on to be a top striker. If it clicks into place for him I can see him playing off the shoulder of the defenders and latching on to all sorts of through balls from Firmino and Coutinho. The conundrum we face is that he is young, and much of what we hope for is only potential, and it may or may not be realized. I hope he gets enough playing time to show us what he can do.

Between those three (and goals from Firmino) we have a lot of eventualities covered, even if Sturridge struggles with fitness. Assuming Balotelli, Borini and Lambert all depart, it's already stronger than last season (it needs to be, mind).

But we need to be as sure as we can be that we will get plenty of goals, so another top striker is required. Ideally they will be someone of the level of Sturridge, with many of his qualities too. They need to be a clear level above Ings and Origi or its best not to bother signing them.

If not Benteke, who? Lacazette? Walcott? Aubemayang? Higuain? Reus? (With Klopp!)

May as well get Heskey back if all we want is Big & Strong, while we're at it why not put a cheeky bid in for Purple Aki?

May as well get Heskey back if all we want is Big & Strong, while we're at it why not put a cheeky bid in for Purple Aki?

Indeed, luckily it looks like we're looking for more than big and strong so have gone for Benteke instead.

I find it strange that people can't or refuse to see that Benteke's major attributes are his height and power.

Obviously he has other good attributes, but those are the ones he relies on the most. Personally I see nothing wrong with that in a player provided they play for the right club. In truth, we are not the right club for that, and to hell with all this plan B shite. That didn't work out for us with Carroll and it won't work with Benteke, regardless of how superior he is to the former In all aspects.

If we do sign him I'll be pissed because that's a shitload of money that could have gone into improving the team with players who buy into our ethos, not a target man who will contribute very little to our build up play, and what I can almost guarantee will turn out to be a really crappy move.

Fuck the one in two record as well. Last season he played for mid table shite and only showed up in the second half of the season, scoring more than one goal a game in some games, in a team tailored to his strengths.

I don't doubt his ability, I doubt his fit for a team such as ours.

Could you imagine Higuain, Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino interchanging? fast, fluid, free flowing football... it'd be a thing of beauty. We need to go all out on him, he'd complete our attack.

Could you imagine Higuain, Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino interchanging? fast, fluid, free flowing football... it'd be a thing of beauty. We need to go all out on him, he'd complete our attack.

Or... Or... And hear me out here...

We could shovel out 32mil for benteke and try and force all our play through him because he's big and can bully defenders with his size... But that's not all, he can hold up play waiting for others to come into the attack! That's what dreams are made of...

I find it strange that people can't or refuse to see that Benteke's major attributes are his height and power.

 

Obviously he has other good attributes, but those are the ones he relies on the most. Personally I see nothing wrong with that in a player provided they play for the right club. In truth, we are not the right club for that, and to hell with all this plan B shite. That didn't work out for us with Carroll and it won't work with Benteke, regardless of how superior he is to the former In all aspects.

 

If we do sign him I'll be pissed because that's a shitload of money that could have gone into improving the team with players who buy into our ethos, not a target man who will contribute very little to our build up play, and what I can almost guarantee will turn out to be a really crappy move.

 

Fuck the one in two record as well. Last season he played for mid table shite and only showed up in the second half of the season, scoring more than one goal a game in some games, in a team tailored to his strengths.

 

I don't doubt his ability, I doubt his fit for a team such as ours.

For a player who's major attribute is his height he seems to score an inordinate amount of goals with his feet.

Higuain is a little bit shit and slow now

Could you imagine Higuain, Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino interchanging? fast, fluid, free flowing football... it'd be a thing of beauty. We need to go all out on him, he'd complete our attack.

Could you imagine being able to afford upwards of 66 million on one player.

For a player who's major attribute is his height he seems to score an inordinate amount of goals with his feet.

So you're saying he's a shite header of the ball?

So you're saying he's a shite header of the ball?

Can't be, he's tall innit.