PODCAST: Liverpool 4 Tottenham 3 - Match Reaction

Monty, the double chasing red. 
 

Still think you went a bit soft on Tierney. I would happily pay twice the account fee if Dave hired an investigative journalist to have a dig in his private life to prove some of Tierney’s no doubt legion piccadillos.

1 hour ago, Tarwater said:

Still think you went a bit soft on Tierney. I would happily pay twice the account fee if Dave hired an investigative journalist to have a dig in his private life to prove some of Tierney’s no doubt legion piccadillos.

I think the club should be doing that, they've got more money than me and doubling the subscriber fee isn't going to put much of a dent in it!

On the "new system", I think it's a temporary measure and will go on the back burner if Klopp gets the players he wants in the summer.  I just think it's a means to an end, an opportunity to experiment while we've nothing to lose.  That kind of opportunity has not been there for several years so we'd be daft not to try different things in this small window and Trent's position/role is the obvious thing to have a play about with.  If it works, even only against certain teams and set ups, then we'll be able to utilise it in the future as and when we feel it's warranted.

So for that reason I'm not getting hung up on how much it suits us, or how it affects other players and our general tactical approach to matches.

Time will tell of course.

Another interesting listen, thanks all.  It's funny, it's a great fun listen when we're flying but I find it a more interesting listen when we're not doing so well.  Always enjoy it either way.

It looked to me like Tierney refused to shake hands with Jurgen at the end of the game. It’s obviously personal between them so why does he ref more of our games than any other club? 
 

As regards Trent’s new role, I don’t think this is a long term strategy but part of a short-term fix to stop us giving up so many chances every game. Playing him there all the time would impact the roles of too many other players - not least of which might be replacing Robbo with a left-sided central defender. I reckon he’ll be back at RB as soon as we get more legs in midfield. 

Interesting that on it being short term boys. Nice one. I’d not considered that at all. Mainly because Klopp has seemed so focused on next season. 

3 minutes ago, Paul said:

Interesting that on it being short term boys. Nice one. I’d not considered that at all. Mainly because Klopp has seemed so focused on next season. 

It could be a nice option to have in the future in certain games though. 

I'm angrier with Tierney and with that Mason wanker the more I think about it.

Yeah, maybe Jota should have gone, but that Skipp cunt should have walked twice for that assault on Diaz. I couldn't give a fuck that he got a touch on the ball first, that was a leg breaker the fucking big oaf!

And Mason has definitely got a touch of the Maureen's about him, arrogant little prick!

I've watched the Jota incident a few times now and he just lifts his leg to try control the ball. There is no follow through on it whatsoever. 

Jota's foot meets the ball before Skipp reaches it. Skipp ducks his head slightly and crucially moves his head forward to head the ball and heads the studs of Jota's boot (hence the cut), rather than Jota kicking him. 

I could say that Jota won the ball before the collision, so as Jamie fucking Redknapp would say, if you get a touch on the ball, it don't matter that you injure the opponent afterwards. 

We’d be livid if that was the other way round though.

I agree with the lads saying this is a temporary system.

I was listening to the pod coming in on the bus this morning, and not to go all " Jules's analogies", but I couldn't help but think back to the movie 'Tin Cup' when Kevin Costner gets the shanks on the practice range so Cheech Marin's character has him moving coins to different pockets, and wearing his hat backwards and undoing a shoelace and all this nonsense just to give him something else to think about as he'd got too much into his own head. 

I think this is a way of getting the players working together and to have to really think about something new just to get them to the end of the season with positive play and results.  The idea of leaving the right flank so open is always going to be doomed to failure against competent teams so I just can't see how this is a long term plan?

It's all about getting to the summer for a head clearing break, and then a proper pre-season with refreshed players and new players.

The other issue would be what do we do if Trent is injured/knackered when we’ve structured our system and possibly our squad to get the best out of his unique talents.  

Top, top Adebayor reference there, Dave.

Why would it be temporary? That makes no sense to me, the old system was broken and we have had a couple of go's at fixing it. This system is working, we're creating and scoring tonnes, legs in Hendo and Fabs position and we will eliminate half the chances the opposition get.

@dave u Spurs where in the conference league last season and got knocked out in the group stages. They just don't win things.

35 minutes ago, No2 said:

Why would it be temporary? That makes no sense to me, the old system was broken and we have had a couple of go's at fixing it. This system is working, we're creating and scoring tonnes, legs in Hendo and Fabs position and we will eliminate half the chances the opposition get.

 

@dave u Spurs where in the conference league last season and got knocked out in the group stages. They just don't win things.

 

I stand corrected!

1 hour ago, JohnnyH said:

I think this is a way of getting the players working together and to have to really think about something new just to get them to the end of the season with positive play and results.  The idea of leaving the right flank so open is always going to be doomed to failure against competent teams so I just can't see how this is a long term plan?

Could be. It did seem like they completely forgot how to counter-press in the usual set up. Maybe it's just that they got stale with it and weren't making the effort anymore, but the change has re-focused them?

To use another golf analogy, it's like when you're in a putting slump so you change to a different putter for a few weeks to freshen things up. Then you go back to your old putter and you're re-juvinated. 

I'm not sure that's how this will play out though as I think we'll continue on with this, albeit not all the time. City and Arsenal play like this and it's not working out too badly for them is it?

1 hour ago, dave u said:

To use another golf analogy, it's like when you're in a putting slump so you change to a different putter for a few weeks to freshen things up.

The voice of experience going by your putting on the other insta account.

20 hours ago, Razoray said:

I've watched the Jota incident a few times now and he just lifts his leg to try control the ball. There is no follow through on it whatsoever. 

Jota's foot meets the ball before Skipp reaches it. Skipp ducks his head slightly and crucially moves his head forward to head the ball and heads the studs of Jota's boot (hence the cut), rather than Jota kicking him. 

 

I could say that Jota won the ball before the collision, so as Jamie fucking Redknapp would say, if you get a touch on the ball, it don't matter that you injure the opponent afterwards. 

It's similar to the Mane red at City a few years ago. There's been about 10 similar incidents in the PL since, and none of them have resulted in a red (to my knowledge at least). Haaland had one on Anderson (Palace) just this season. I still maintain that the Mane one wasn't a red, for exactly the same reasons as this wasn't. Both players trying to control the ball, kicking upwards. Big difference between jumping up to control the ball and kicking towards another player (de Jong/Bosingwa), even if the foot is a tad high.

What happened to the age old rule where you could get a free kick if someone bent down to head the ball btw?