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FC Basel 1 Liverpool 0 (Oct 1 2014)


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I wish I could say I was surprised by that but it was all too predictable wasn’t it? Concede a goal from a set-piece; check. Thoroughly toothless up front; check. Generally lacklustre all over the pitch; check. Barring one game at White Hart Lane it’s been the story of the season so far. It would appear that the improved display and higher intensity shown in the derby was just down to the occasion after all, as we were back to being ponderous and lacking sparkle again in this one.

 

This was always going to be the pivotal game in the group and now that we’ve lost it we’re in a real dogfight to make it to the knockout stages now. To be honest I don’t even care about whether we get out of the group or not, that’s the least of my worries in fact. I’d rather finish bottom than third too, and let’s face it, that’s a real possibility based on what Ludogorets have shown so far. Fuck this Champions League shit, I just want us to get our league form sorted out because right now I don’t even have any confidence that we’ll beat West Brom this weekend.

 

Basel are obviously no pushovers, especially at their place and better teams than us have been beaten by them. They beat Chelsea twice last year and also beat United the year before, so us losing there isn’t exactly an upset. Yet I couldn’t help but think when I was watching this that they’re actually a bit shit and the Liverpool of last season would have bummed them senseless. Sadly we bear absolutely no resemblance to the Liverpool of last season and may never do again. 101 goals? This team will do well to manage 101 shots the way they’re playing.

 

We had loads of space to attack Basel and got into countless dangerous positions, but every time we just ballsed it right up. Sterling was the biggest culprit, the kid had an absolute ‘mare. Twice he should have scored in the second half, and twice he seemed to completely panic and fluffed the opportunity. He looked pretty stressed about it too I thought, it was etched all over his face. Maybe the pressure of having to carry the team is taking it’s toll on him? If his form starts to go downhill then we’re really fucked.

 

He shouldn’t have been playing anyway though, Rodgers is taking the piss with him really. Leaves him out against Villa because he ‘needs to be managed carefully’, then plays him in every minute of every game since, including two hours plus pens in the league cup against a Championship side. He’ll probably have the cheek to complain about Hodgson overplaying him too. Seriously Brendan, sort it out as it’s making you look foolish.

 

And Balotelli has somehow morphed into Emile Heskey with a bad haircut. He’s working harder than many expected he would but his decision making is terrible at times. He doesn’t look suited to playing up top on his own at all, as he holds on to the ball for too long and often loses it as a result. Even when he doesn’t lose it he often slows down our attacks because he’s the furthest man forward but he won’t run in behind. He needs to stop trying to dribble too, because he can’t do it and isn’t quick enough to get away from anybody.

 

Apparently he didn’t touch the ball once in the opposing box. That’s not all his fault of course, but it’s still worrying, especially when he’s hobbling around after every challenge looking like he’s feeling sorry for himself. We need more from him. A lot more. I’m convinced he’ll be better when Sturridge is alongside him, although when Sturridge comes back there’s probably a decent chance Mario will be benched. Should that happen he can’t complain; one goal in seven tells it’s own story.

 

Coutinho wasn’t that bad but he’s probably missing Sturridge more than anybody as he needs people running in behind. Not only does it give him a target to thread passes through to, it also spreads the field and gives him more room to operate. Balotelli is coming short all the time and just getting in his way. It couldn’t be any more different than last season, when we were flying at teams from all angles because of the speed and movement of our attacks. That’s not happening anymore, and the reason it isn’t is because the players in attack are just nowhere near as good as they were last year. It’s not rocket science.

 

Markovic did fuck all again, save for one effort that a defender blocked after Balotelli’s free-kick had been parried to him. He was tidy enough in possession but he’s not looking like scoring or creating and that makes him an even less effective Stewart Downing.

 

To be fair, I don’t actually think the rest of the team are doing that much different to what they were last year, but we don’t have that 50 goal strike partnership and it’s killing us. Last season we had the two best forwards in the league and they were complimented by people like Sterling and Coutinho. Take those two out and you know what you have? Oasis without the Gallaghers, that’s what. Liam will be back soon and that will help, but everyone knows that it was Noel that was the key to making the whole thing work. Staying with the Oasis analogy, we have all kinds of candidates vying to be ‘Bonehead’ right now, including the manager.

 

I honestly believe after watching this one that it’s the attack that is causing everything to malfunction. The defence were actually ok against Basel and I didn’t think the midfield were that bad either, but you always know that we’ll find a way to concede a goal so it’s therefore vital that we have it going at the other end, and we never did. It was just incompetent forward play from start to finish. As things stand we’re weak at both ends of the pitch, and that’s being reflected in our results.

 

We were weak defensively last year too but it didn’t really matter. Now it does, because the attack has gone from being the best in the league to one of the worst. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration either, outside of the bottom four only Stoke, West Brom and Villa have scored fewer than us.

 

There’s not much more to say really, it’s just so demoralising what’s happening to us now. We’re shite, there’s no point sugar coating it. Sturridge obviously can’t return soon enough, but if we’re putting all our eggs in his injury prone basket then God help us.

 

The arguing among fans has started already and it’s only going to get worse I fear. Some are ripping into the manager and the new signings, others are saying “relax, it will just take some time and we’ll be fine”. The truth is none of us know the future and no-one has a clue if Brendan will get it right or whether we’ll continue to be crap. It’s all guesswork and there’s enough evidence either way to strengthen whatever argument you want to make. There’s no point us falling out with each other over it, either side of the argument could yet be proved right but it’s too soon to tell.

 

This time last year nobody could have predicted we’d go on a 12 game winning streak that would take us within a whisker of the title, and the same is true now. We all have hunches about what may happen, but really, nobody knows. Not us, not Brendan, not the players. We could win 12 on the bounce again (not now, obviously, but perhaps later in the season), or we could go 12 without winning (that could well happen now!).

 

You know, we were so desperate to get back into the Champions League but what good has last season actually done us? Suarez fucked off anyway, we had to buy a load of players to cope with the extra games and that has unsettled everything, and to top it off we were left psychologically scarred after having the title in our grasp and letting it sli… letting it get away. Now Rodgers has got no time to work with his squad and get the new players integrated through training sessions because we’ve got all these midweek games that look like proving to be just a series of humiliations. I dread to think what Real Madrid might do to us.

 

Oh how we laughed at the Mancs last year, with their 7th placed finish and no European football. How we laughed when MK Dons hammered them in the League Cup. Well we won’t be laughing at them for long, not when Van Gaal has had the luxury of a few months working with his squad every day in training preparing for one game a week, while Brendan juggles with rest days, rotation, injuries and no time to plan for opponents. United might be shit now, but they’ll get better because they have time to work at it and because they’ve got the kind of firepower we had last year.

 

We don’t have any of that. But hey, we’re back in the Champions League. Woo fucking hoo. What good is it if we break our necks trying to get out of a group, maybe win a knockout match or two and then go out, if we end up missing out on the top four because of it? The CL money is doubled next year too, if we miss out this year it will seriously hurt us. It won't happen of course, but I'd play the u21s from now on and have Brendan spend a full week working with the first team getting them ready for league games, because that's what's important. Maybe I'm in a minority, but I'd take three points against West Brom over a win against Real Madrid all day long. 

 

Star man is probably Lovren, although Enrique did ok after a ropey start.

 

 

Team: Mignolet; Manquillo, Skrtel, Lovren, Enrique; Gerrard, Henderson; Markovic (Lambert), Coutinho (Lallana), Sterling; Balotelli:


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A good piece Dave.

 

Suarez' departure has put the spotlight on Brendan. Did he manage brilliantly last season, or bask in the reflected glory of an outstanding goal scorer?

 

The skills required last season, of making the most of Suarez, are not what will help him this season. Consolidating a Top Four position, CL football and spending £100m are all new to him.

 

He is good enough to learn, but this is an unforgiving business.

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He is good enough to learn, but this is an unforgiving business.

 

Good point, I agree that he is good enough to learn and he's shown already he does learn. All of this is new to him, it's easy to forget that.

 

If this carries on for another month or two though he's going to be getting shit from a lot of fans, it's the nature of the beast these days. Last season will count for little, football is becoming more and more of a 'what have you done for me lately' business.

 

I still maintain the biggest obstacle to him turning it around is the total lack of time to work on anything on the training ground compared to last year.

 

We fought tooth and nail to get into the Champions League and it's fucking killing us.

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It's only killing us because we signed a load of shit in the summer.

 

Had we bought champions league standard players then it would have been OK.

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Maybe it's all just because we're really missing Glen Johnson...I'll get my coat...

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United might be shit now but they're still one point and seven places ahead of us in the table.

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United might be shit now but they're still one point and seven places ahead of us in the table.

 

They've signed Mata, Di Maria, and Falcao so far this year. I'm not laughing at the moment...

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They've signed Mata, Di Maria, and Falcao so far this year. I'm not laughing at the moment...

 

Exactly.

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Of all the players we bought, apart from Lalana and Moreno would you buy any of them again at the prices we paid ? £20m for Markovic?? Are you fucking kidding me!!? To quote "he couldn't hit water if he fell off a fucking boat" unquote.

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Great quote about Markovic above He was the worst of the lot.

Embarrassing performance. Three points required this weekend even if its a scrappy one nil win with a dodgy own goal.

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Of all the players we bought, apart from Lalana and Moreno would you buy any of them again at the prices we paid ? £20m for Markovic?? Are you fucking kidding me!!? To quote "he couldn't hit water if he fell off a fucking boat" unquote.

This is it, 2 players out of 8 is shocking stuff.

 

Someone needs to be held accountable

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We also overpaid for Lallana and I'd have to think carefully about paying Moreno's price, however we at least needed to buy in that position as a priority. I'm not rushing to call all the new signings shit but I'd love to know what level of performance Brendan and the committee were expecting them to all achieve this year, given the majority are either too inexperienced and raw, or in Lambert's case, slow, unfit and ageing.

 

Balotelli at least fits the profile of player we should have been looking at, bar the mentality, but he just screams 'panic buy', painted into a corner by not getting Sanchez or Remy, too tight to buy Eto'o, and only having Lambert as back-up. We play Balotelli like he's Sturridge or Suarez when he's always been static, giving him quick through-balls to chase and expecting him to dribble with the ball, then we get cross that it doesn't work well. It's the same with Lambert, I wished we'd bought better than both but I'm left puzzled as to why we still play the same way with either of them. Origi can't come soon enough.

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League, League, League, League, League spot on Dave U21 for CL, maybe roll out the lads for Madrid, but bollocks to the rest

Sturridge, Lallana & Sterling with Coutinho pulling the strings, pace movement & guile we will have it. The squad looks as thin as ever despite the recruits. Rotating players - but not Gerrard who looks completely knackered, he should only play LEAGUE games. Issue is we can't see the progress

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Got to say dave I wholeheartedly disagree about "fuck this shit" comment with regards the CL.  Of course we need to rectify our league form and move up the table but surely that is to actually qualify for the competition we are in now.  Have we become a club like Arsenal who are just happy to qualify for a tournament to balance the books completely forgetting they are there to win the thing.

 

We spent a lot of money this summer fattening the squad so we could compete in 4 competitions.  I will be massively fucked off if we go out early in the CL.  After all this is the 'reward' for last seasons great play.  We've all but wiped clean the good work then lets try and make it memorable by doing well in the CL

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Yeah, I don't think the Champions League is killing us, the fact we can't defend - still - is the problem as is the fact we look once again to have blown vast sums of money on absolute shite.

 

Rodgers is good at what he does, you can tell his background is in youth coaching, he's good with discipline and seemingly good at man management and motivating 'some' players, but he's got major deficiencies too. IMO he's left badly wanting tactically and seemingly can't spot a player. Major flaws for a manager, to be sure.

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christ of almighty. are people serious about playing an u21 team in CL?

 

You all must have loved the last 5 years when we werent in it.

 

go through all that drama and emotion to play an u21 team in the biggest football competition on the planet.

 

give it up.

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Got to say dave I wholeheartedly disagree about "fuck this shit" comment with regards the CL.  Of course we need to rectify our league form and move up the table but surely that is to actually qualify for the competition we are in now.  Have we become a club like Arsenal who are just happy to qualify for a tournament to balance the books completely forgetting they are there to win the thing.

 

We spent a lot of money this summer fattening the squad so we could compete in 4 competitions.  I will be massively fucked off if we go out early in the CL.  After all this is the 'reward' for last seasons great play.  We've all but wiped clean the good work then lets try and make it memorable by doing well in the CL

 

I agree with you in theory, but I think this season is an exception to that due to the unusual situation we're in. Best player gone, second best player injury prone and a load of new players struggling to adapt. 

 

The CL money doubles next year, therefore it's even more important to get top four this year, especially as hopefully we'll have gotten our act together and will be better prepared for it next year. Being in Europe is killing us, not because we don't have a big enough squad or players are tired, but because it's completely fucking up the training schedule we had last year.

 

Rodgers doesn't have time to implement things like he had last year, and that's even more of an issue because we have so many new players, we're playing a different system etc

 

If there was even the slightest chance that we might be able to win it then I'd be all for giving it a go and Premier League be damned, but there isn't. This is not Rafa's 2005 team who could go and get a 0-0 if needed.

 

And prepare to be 'massively fucked off' because I highly doubt we're going anywhere in this year's CL mate.

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They've signed Mata, Di Maria, and Falcao so far this year. I'm not laughing at the moment...

 

I still think we'd beat them with Sturridge in our side (and Allen too perhaps).

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christ of almighty. are people serious about playing an u21 team in CL?

 

You all must have loved the last 5 years when we werent in it.

 

go through all that drama and emotion to play an u21 team in the biggest football competition on the planet.

 

give it up.

 

I loved last year when we weren't in it. Had more fun last year than any season I can remember.

 

So yeah, fuck the Champions League, I'd rather be good domestically and right now being in Europe isn't helping with that at all.

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We can spend twice as much money on shit when the CL money doubles. 

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and pay even more than the current £59 a ticket to watch said shit signings!

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I agree with you in theory, but I think this season is an exception to that due to the unusual situation we're in. Best player gone, second best player injury prone and a load of new players struggling to adapt.

 

The CL money doubles next year, therefore it's even more important to get top four this year, especially as hopefully we'll have gotten our act together and will be better prepared for it next year. Being in Europe is killing us, not because we don't have a big enough squad or players are tired, but because it's completely fucking up the training schedule we had last year.

 

Rodgers doesn't have time to implement things like he had last year, and that's even more of an issue because we have so many new players, we're playing a different system etc

 

If there was even the slightest chance that we might be able to win it then I'd be all for giving it a go and Premier League be damned, but there isn't. This is not Rafa's 2005 team who could go and get a 0-0 if needed.

 

And prepare to be 'massively fucked off' because I highly doubt we're going anywhere in this year's CL mate.

surely at the very least rodgers needs this champions league experience. chucking it in after 2 games is ridiculous. This squad and manager have to be allowed to adapt to 2 games a week. Also I think we ll beat madrid at anfield for the record. the champions at anfield the roof will come off.

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surely at the very least rodgers needs this champions league experience. chucking it in after 2 games is ridiculous. This squad and manager have to be allowed to adapt to 2 games a week.

 

I hear what you're saying, and I know I'm in the minority on this. Rodgers does need to learn but at what cost?

 

All I'm saying is I'd rather he had time to work with his players on the training ground, because right now we're seriously bad. We're a bottom half team based on how we're playing and we're pinning all of our hopes on the return of a player who is just as likely to break down injured again as he is to ride to our rescue.

 

Any other season I'm with you and George. This year? No, the champions league can go and fuck itself, I just want us back on track domestically because it looks like we're about to do the same thing we've done the last two times we had a title challenge - completely shit the bed the next year.

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Yep, if we keep finishing fourth with the goal being of getting into the champions league, only to then view it as a burden, surely our goal has simply become to finish fourth purely for the sake of it? I don't see the point in that - that's not living, that's existing!

 

We want big nights again, we want people talking about us again, if the people at the top can't deliver that then they should make way for someone who can - it's that simple IMO.

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