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If Wisdom is fit I can see this being the case. He will probably put Johnson LB and Enrique left wing. Wisdom has looked a bit shaky recently. I would prefer Johnson there to be honest and he offers more coming from RB than LB. I think we should play three in the middle but it should be Sahin for Henderson. They have got Huddleston who is big but he isn't really that much of a physical player and Parker is also out. We should control it from the middle of the pitch. Since AVB has took over they have looked more like a team of individuals. They have got some really quick players capable of running at us and scoring individual goals, we just have to keep the ball like we usually do and pressure them quickly. They don't seem the type of team to try and keep the ball for long. Just like in any game we have had this season we just need to take our chances and the rest will look after itself.

People got far too carried away with it in my opinion. The way I always seen it was that it was very good defensively. It really stifled other teams and we became literally the hardest team to break down in world football and that's no exaggeration. No matter if you were Derby County or Man United you sturggle to score against us. It put us on a level playing field with every other team in the world because it meant that the only way to beat us was with a stroke of brilliance or a stroke of luck. The only problem with it and it turned out to be a fucking big problem was it meant we were very lop sided. We did not get players forward anywhere near enough. It felt like hundreds of our games were 0-0 at half time and well beyond. We did, however, have Gerrard and Torres at their peak of their powers and bang in form. More often than not they bailed the team out and made us the team that got that stroke of luck or had the piece of brilliance to win the game. People somehow think that this made Benitez's teams attacking. It didn't at all. We were negative as anything with two brilliant players acting as impact players and it worked for a while. A lot of that time that people remember it working so great, it actually wasn't. It was only when Gerrard got pulled back into midfield and other attackers were thrown on that we actually came back and won the games in the season we finished second. In the end they both came out of that form and we lost our solidness at the back and we fell to pieces. Everyone was suddenly shocked but it was a fucking accident waiting to happen. The team Benitez assembled which was great was being stifled by his own tactics and substitutions. A few parts got unhappy and either left or dropped in form and the whole thing fell to pieces. The problem with playing one man up front creates so many problems and not just the obvious type. You begin to rely on that forward because he plays every game. He gets flogged unlike forwards at other top clubs. When he does get injured you don't have a forward of similar quality to come in who is match fit because nobody that good is willing to sit on the bench for that long in the first place.

It really is just different shades of grey. It's funny how quickly people forget how isolated Torres used to be in Benitez's variant on that formation. The reason he scored so many goals is because he was that good. The formation didn't help him at all. At the end of the day all it comes down to is that you have one man up front. If you play one man or two men up front it is still important to get more men in the box when the ball is wide. Man Utd have been doing it for years and it's why I think they have been the most successful team. You don't have to be Kevin Keegan to be attacking and accept you are going to concede some goals. It was a thing that used to annoy me in the Benitez years and it's still something we haven't got in the habit of doing. Under Benitez we permanently had the shackles on until the last 15 mins of games or unless it was a must win game. It worked great for him one season but eventually cost us the chance of winning the league. Until we get out of this mentality we will always struggle to break teams down.

The first one I spotted was someone called Brentie saying he's crying more tonight than the day he got sacked. It's a fucking goldmine. You can actually picture some of these sad cunts actually in bits looking at their computer screen. Fucking gimps. I find it all quite funny. It's a fucking car crash waiting to happen. Rafa's history with owners and he goes there of all places. Who was the actual last manager to sign a player? His fucking lunatic decisions even had Anfield mildly groaning sometimes imagine the amount of foaming at the mouth he will cause at Chelsea. It's going to be fucking hysterical..

Killian = Louis Walsh

HAHAHAHAHA Absolutely fucking hysterical.

What are you on about you nutter? Forget about strikers, we need to spend what money we have on signing some defensive midfielders. With Lucas out we're fucked. If he was playing or if we had a suitable replacement we wouldn't have conceded any of those stupid goals leaving us with 0 against and a lot more points. Come on. What do you think is more realistic, signing some forwards and scoring more goals than we are to win games or aiming to concede no goals all season?

When you think about what the options are, it's a no brainer really. It's sounds ridiculous but we should be glad/hoping he's not demanding more. He would probably be one of the most sought after players in the prem if he became available. He's 17 and has got more composure and the ability to go with it than a lot early 20 year olds. Clubs blow tens of millions on players hoping they will work in the prem and give them 5 years plus service. The odd time a gem comes through the youth system of one of the big clubs. Nobody seems to have a clue what to do in terms of paying them. Is it worth taking the risk of not giving him what he wants? He's one of the brightest stars in the prem and is pretty much a guaranteed starter already for us. Say we don't give him what he wants, how much is it going to cost to replace him now and what could the potential cost of not having him in the team in 2/3 years be? In my opinion they need to just pay him what he wants and get on with it. If he suddenly turns shit and is on a 5 year deal worth £12m is that really that bad? We've blown more than that on transfer fees for players in the past never mind the wages we paid them and Sterling would have a sell on value.

Yeah and that's his opinion you crank.

They are a fucking laughing stock.

Haha love this.

To be honest I can't see the films being as good if they had showed Princess Leia campaigning against the poll tax. I will be gutted if they don't base the new films on the books which looks like what is happening. Admiral Thrawn would make an excellent on screen bad guy.

She's on 8 out of 10 cats now looking unreal.

I don't think it's already been mentioned but the one where he decides to get that fat that the nuclear plant have to give him a job at home is hysterical. I may be wrong but I'm sure that's the episode with the line "quick operator, give me the number for 911!" it's easily the greatest comedy of all time in my eyes. The fact that it appeals to all ages as well whilst being just so damn good for so long, there is nothing that compares.

Will you be back on here in a few years saying Suarez is the shittest forward we've ever had because he's had the worst goals to shot ratio of any forward we've ever had? You probably will because you are one thick cunt. You're selective stat means fuck all for a start because you still have offered no evidence. Just a list with Opta written at the top of it. Here is some stats I found (Opta) Bestest Keeper in the whole wide world - Chris Kirkland 100% (EASPORTS) Knows fuck all about football - Silver Lining 100% (The Guest) Has either written a load of players names with a made up % next to them putting Kirkland at the bottom or found one solitary stat to back up an argument but do not want to reveal the link because this also contains stats which show this stat up to be bollocks - Silver Lining 100% Never mind the fact that this stat doesn't take into account the fact he didn't play that many games consecutively in any season he was here. It doesn't take into account the teams that he played against or how good those shots were or weren't. You know this about stats of course and will have probably argued this when it suited you. You haven't found me one shot yet that he should have saved never mind various ones to make him be the keeper you are making him out to be. He was a half decent keeper ruined by injuries. :drool:

Hahaha are you for fucking real? I bet you have just sat through videos for 10 minutes looking for a mistake and that's the best you can come up with. He's completely unsighted in that and is unlucky but go on you can have that one. James, Westerveld, Friedel and Dudek all made plenty of ACTUAL howlers on plenty of occasions and they are keepers that have played regulary never mind some of the other jokers we have had on the bench over the years. Where's your evidence of this goal to shot ratio? I'd like to see where Dudek came on that list at a similar time. We didn't concede very many shots because we were such a negative team back then so naturally that ratio goes up. We literally played 4 centre halves and 4 centre midfielders in two banks of four every game and had the best defence for a number of seasons. Kirkland didn't make it because he was injury prone. If you are going to be successful then by and large you need the keeper to be playing nearly every game of the season. All the successful clubs over the years have had keepers that can do this. Kirkland couldn't and it cost him. He was never a bad keeper.

Absolute nonsense. Are you sure you even know who Kirkland is? He was a half decent keeper who was strangely signed for a decent some of money at the same time we signed a new first choice keeper. When he was called upon he usually played well and to the point I can't remember one howler or mistake of importance he made. His problem was that he was massively injury prone. His career failed because of that not because he was a bad keeper.

They were the golden days. I remember when Nagra 3 happened and they said it was uncrackable. I laughed and thought give it 3 months. 2 years later and I'm not laughing any more!

Ronaldo and Messi are a level above every other footballer including Xavi and Iniesta. They are world class obviously but Ronaldo and Messi are a notch above them. I already think they are the best two footballers of all time and when they finish their careers I think that will probably be the view held by most people. In regards to Scholes I still hold the view I had at the start of this thread. He was a great goal scoring midfielder in his early days when he was at his peak. He then reinvented himself as the player he is today. It didn't happen overnight but this opinion that he has been running midfields since his early days did. He's not even that exceptional now he still relies on the other players to win the games at both ends of the field. The mancs didn't need a Gerrard because they had brilliant wingers and forwards year in year out. God knows how good they would have been if Gerrard would have played for them. I reckon they would have a few more European Cups on their hands. Turn that round and say what would have happened if we would have had Scholes instead of Gerrard. I dread to think the state the club would be in now. This is the first time in his career that Gerrard has had to rely on other players because he isn't doing it all himself and he hasn't got the luxury Scholes has. There is literally no comparison for me.

He's saying Gerrard is selfish but I distinctly remember him demanding to take a penalty and not letting anyone get near the ball even though he wasn't our penalty taker. He's the most disgusting human to have played in the Premier League never mind to have played for us.

Nobody likes Gerrard blah blah blah I'm shit scared of Carragher blah blah I'm one if the 100 greatest players ever along with Mia Hamm. El Hadji Diouf has slammed Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard as being 'selfish' | Liverpool News, Fixtures, Results, Transfers | Sky Sports

Spot on.