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Should Glen Johnson get a new contract?

    With just a year and a bit remaining on his current deal, Liverpool have a decision to make on Glen Johnson this summer. Do they offer him a new deal on his existing terms, try to convince him to sign for less money, move him on for whatever they can get or perhaps let him see out the final year of his current deal before testing the free agent market? Three TLW contributors share their thoughts...


 

Despite his (let’s be kind here) erratic recent form, Glen Johnson is a quality player on his day. He’s a valuable attacking asset and has formed part of cohesive defensive units under previous managers. This season has been a different story however; Johnson’s form has been well below what’s been expected from him. It’s a mark of how well others have done in his absence, and how poorly Johnson has performed when he has played, that not renewing his contract and cutting our losses by selling him is now more of a certainty than keeping him.

 

In the background of all this is the negotiations themselves. Johnson’s reported to be unwilling to take a pay cut from the handsome £100,000+ per week he earns. Now whilst it’s justifiable that the player shouldn’t want to take a pay cut (would you if you were him?), he really has to be mindful of the surroundings he now finds himself in. The club has spent a great deal of time and effort reducing the wage bill down to something more manageable for a team that’s not in the Champions League. Johnson’s current contract is a throwback to another era and it’s incredibly unlikely that we’ll see its like again. The club now prefers to reward players with big contracts based on their age, how valuable they are as an asset and their long term form. On all three of those tenets Johnson falls down. He’s getting on in age, there’s not a lot of resale value to be had from him and his form has been ‘erratic’ at best.

 

In any sport, the usual rule of thumb is that a player will play his best stuff in a ‘contract’ year; showing how off how good he is to add on the extra cash when the negotiations roll around. That works on two fronts, either their current employer has to pay up, or another team will swoop in because they’ve seen a high performing player who can be brought in without much trouble. In most sports that usually means the final year of the contract but as football works slightly differently, it usually means the 18 months before the contract is due to expire. In Johnson’s case that hasn’t happened, in fact he’s played like he’s been sulking because he’s not got what he wanted. It has emerged that he’s been carrying injuries so that explains the poor performances, but it doesn’t excuse what appears to be a poor attitude, especially when he’s lost the ball or tracking a runner.

 

Not to pre-judge anything but the way this season is panning out, it looks like we’ll be returning to at least some sort of European football next season. That requires a much larger squad than we currently have so any transfers that happen in the summer, I’d prefer them to be weighted 80/20 if favour of incoming players. There should be no reason to ship out any player who currently plays in the first team in the summer; we need reinforcements, not wholesale changes. Having said all of that, that only includes Johnson if he’s willing to take a substantial pay cut. If he thinks that he’s worth more than Liverpool are offering then he should be our guest and test the waters of being a free signing. There aren’t many teams in England who will offer him what Liverpool is offering him which is (apparently) £70,000 a week and probable Champions League football. If he thinks he can do better than that, well then see you later, Glen.

 

Despite his performances this season and his injury problems, I’ve always got a place in my squad for good players and despite thoughts elsewhere to the contrary, Glen Johnson is a good player. Like the Million Dollar Man said “everyone has a price”, and for Johnson that price is a lot lower than he currently perceives it to be. There’s a contract on the table for Johnson, it shouldn’t go any higher so it’s his choice whether he sticks or twists. I hope he sticks but I’ll lose no sleep if he twists. Let’s just hope that he’s not left twisting in the wind.

 

 

Julian Richards

 


 

It wasn’t long ago Glen Johnson was viewed as a crucial member of the Liverpool side-and rightly so. This past autumn, in the midst of a period during which the Englishman was out due to injury, Brendan Rodgers acknowledged that Johnson was the type of player whose absence truly underscored his importance to the team. At the time it was easy to see why; with more than enough pace to maintain the high line the manager prefers, as well as the skill and technique to offer a genuine threat in attack, Johnson appeared the prototypical fullback for the new Liverpool. 

 

As we near the end of Year Two in the Rodgers era, it’s difficult to determine what exactly went wrong. To the delight of supporters, the Reds have unleashed a scintillating attacking blend, relying on intricate passing and movement, as well as on breakneck counterattacks-both areas for which Johnson would seem ideally suited. However, the fullback has looked well off the pace for most of the season: clumsy in possession and unpredictable in terms of his decision making.

 

As the Liverpool brain trust ponder whether or not to offer Johnson a new deal, the crucial question remains: Which Johnson would such a contract land them? The fullback was unconvincing in his return to action against Swansea last weekend, although the long layoff and his deployment on the left, rather than on his preferred right side are reason enough to withhold judgment until the end of the season.

 

Regardless of Johnson’s play over the next eleven matches, however, I don’t think he’s worth renewing at his current salary. His erratic form, checkered injury history and age make that too risky a proposition.  But the risks of losing Johnson are significant as well. This season Liverpool have suffered the consequences of discontinuity at the back; with a series of question marks surrounding Liverpool’s immediate future at the other three back line positions, the potential loss of Johnson could further unsettle the Reds’ defence. 

 

Moreover, for all the offensive fireworks on display this season, Rodgers’ side have managed a paltry two goals in their three games away to the Top Three. Take nothing away from Liverpool’s impressive offensive output, but it’s going to take more than a sparkling front four to break down the stingiest defences at the most hostile grounds-in England and in Europe. In order to fully realise his vision, Rodgers’ system requires at least one fullback who can provide a legitimate threat in attack-and Glen Johnson is the only player in the squad truly capable of that feat. 

 

 

For those reasons I say let’s give Glen a chance to prove himself over these next eleven matches. If he can return to a level at or near his best, I think the Reds would do well to secure his services at a slightly reduced salary, providing of course Johnson is willing to accept that. In a back line lacking in both consistency and attacking prowess, Johnson’s future contributions could be vital. 

 

Joel Tracy

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At his best, Glen Johnson is a devastating attacking full back whose class and composure on the ball would make him a nailed on first choice for any team in the country. Many times last season and at the start of this campaign, his ability to glide past opponents on either side regardless of which flank he happened to be on opened up an obdurate 11-behind-the-ball defence and created space inside for the likes of Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho or Gerrard to exploit. Furthermore, on the back foot he was no slouch either, regularly showing that tales of his defensive mediocrity were very much over-cooked.

 

And yet - yes that's right: there's a huge proviso coming - he's wildly inconsistent. For every 8 or 9 out of 10 performance, how many 4s or 5s are there? It's certainly more than one or two. You know what I mean: the half-arsed tracking, the lack of awareness of what's around him, the lazy pass to opposing feet or the overly ambitious cut-inside-and-hit-it effort. This season such performances have become the norm which is utterly galling as I had thought he'd finally turned a corner after last season when he was mostly sublime.

 

So you can clearly see I'm erring on the side of answering in the negative to this question - and that's before we mention the obscenity of his wage packet for this degree of output. It strikes me that he's had a new deal on his mind for a while - but not necessarily at Liverpool. He's been learning Italian for few years now and also knocked back an extension to his current contract on reduced, but still generous terms last year. Frankly, he must know that in this FSG-instigated "value is all" era he hasn't got a hope in hell of a six figures a week wedge at almost 30 years of age and so his gaze is turning towards pastures new.

 

That said, I'm still not averse to re-signing him. The problem is that the terms I'd offer, though potentially very generous, would be heavily weighted towards appearances in the context of his variable fitness and form, and therefore unlikely to be accepted by Johnson himself. So the most realistic response to this question is no - but that's not because I wouldn't have him; it's more that he wouldn't like what I was offering and I suspect that that is exactly how it will play out this summer: he will leave the club on a free to release his fat wedge from the balance sheet and ensure that other clubs can afford him as a free agent. And if that opens up the way for Jon Flanagan to continue his development in the Liverpool first team, even better.

 

 

Paul Natton

 

 


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Heard he had it rough growing up with his mum raising him and his siblings on her own and at one point they were homeless. Not saying we should give him loads of cash because of this (I don't want us to keep him) and granted he'll probably never have to work a day in his life if he retired tomorrow, but I can see why money would be a key factor for someone who grew up with nothing well into his teenage years. 

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Heard he had it rough growing up with his mum raising him and his siblings on her own and at one point they were homeless. Not saying we should give him loads of cash because of this (I don't want us to keep him) and granted he'll probably never have to work a day in his life if he retired tomorrow, but I can see why money would be a key factor for someone who grew up with nothing well into his teenage years.

Or it could teach him to appreciate the living he's currently having, and compare this situation to when he had nothing and was struggling. If he's solely motivated to be at Liverpool because of money, then that's not the type of players we need. Yes, I understand everyone wants to earn more, and be valued at a company, but if you're motivation to perform is based around factors such as money, then will he be motivated to go that extra yard when needed?

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Or it could teach him to appreciate the living he's currently having, and compare this situation to when he had nothing and was struggling. If he's solely motivated to be at Liverpool because of money, then that's not the type of players we need. Yes, I understand everyone wants to earn more, and be valued at a company, but if you're motivation to perform is based around factors such as money, then will he be motivated to go that extra yard when needed?

I don't disagree chief, I'd move him on even if he was willing to take a paycut, I think we can improve on him, but I can see why someone would be motivated by the money in that situation. 

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Or it could teach him to appreciate the living he's currently having, and compare this situation to when he had nothing and was struggling. If he's solely motivated to be at Liverpool because of money, then that's not the type of players we need. Yes, I understand everyone wants to earn more, and be valued at a company, but if you're motivation to perform is based around factors such as money, then will he be motivated to go that extra yard when needed?

 

I wonder how much Suarez's new contract motivates him to stay at Liverpool. Like it or not money plays a huge part. Its easy to highlight players out of form and their contracts.

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"Ultimately the strain of three injuries — the most concerning being a torn ankle ligament — became too great and he was forced to take five weeks off before returning to action last Saturday.

‘It was mentally tough because I want to perform how I’m used to and know I’m capable of doing, but my ankle was blocked so much that I couldn’t run properly. I couldn’t move it more than 90 degrees so when I was running I was basically limping.

‘Brendan was aware of the injuries but he was asking me to do a job for the team and every footballer wants to play.


‘At first I could play with the injuries but it got to the point where across all three it was affecting my performance and it was time to stop. Now I feel miles better. I’ve got that flexibility back in my ankle and I can run properly.’"

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"Ultimately the strain of three injuries — the most concerning being a torn ankle ligament — became too great and he was forced to take five weeks off before returning to action last Saturday.

 

‘It was mentally tough because I want to perform how I’m used to and know I’m capable of doing, but my ankle was blocked so much that I couldn’t run properly. I couldn’t move it more than 90 degrees so when I was running I was basically limping.

 

‘Brendan was aware of the injuries but he was asking me to do a job for the team and every footballer wants to play.

 

‘At first I could play with the injuries but it got to the point where across all three it was affecting my performance and it was time to stop. Now I feel miles better. I’ve got that flexibility back in my ankle and I can run properly.’"

 

Reading that makes me regret some of the harsh comments I've made about him. He certainly looked a lot better in an England shirt last night than he has for months.

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Echo today.

 

James Pearce: Don't be surprised if Glen Johnson is on his way  

 

6 Mar 2014 08:18

 

ECHO's Liverpool reporter on Johnson's future

 

Glen Johnson has only confirmed what we already knew – that Liverpool have yet to open discussions with him over a new contract .

 

Brendan Rodgers recently told the ECHO that he wanted to keep Johnson at Anfield but insisted there was no rush to deal with the issue.

 

The manager pointed to the fact that Steven Gerrard reached the final year of his contract last summer before penning an extension.

 

Johnson’s future represents a dilemma for Liverpool. Rodgers doesn’t want to lose that wealth of experience but there is no way the Reds’ owners would be willing to match his current terms of around £110,000 per week.

 

Johnson is one of the club’s highest earners but he turns 30 later this year and has struggled for both form and fitness this season.

 

Unless Johnson would be willing to accept a hefty pay cut, it’s hard to see him penning a new deal.

 

Liverpool won’t want to risk losing Johnson for free in 2015 so if the current situation remains it would be no surprise if he’s sold this summer.

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I think its clear now glens poor form was down to injury, now he is fully fit he is back to what he was, the best rb in the premier league.

 

I dont care what he gets a week frankly, he is a top class player who has been loyal and needs to be signed up to a new long term deal.

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I think its clear now glens poor form was down to injury, now he is fully fit he is back to what he was, the best rb in the premier league.

 

I dont care what he gets a week frankly, he is a top class player who has been loyal and needs to be signed up to a new long term deal.[/quote

 

Yeah, like 1 decent game changes everything. Bet you loved Voronin too. I'm sorry but he'll have to do it until the Newcastle game for me, a run of form he's never really achieved.if he does I'll hold my hands up.

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He's been solid since he's come back from injury and he is undoubtedly a major reason we're enjoying a run of wins.  Anyone who suggests otherwise needs to wipe the shit out of their eyes.

 

He should be offered a new contract, but it'd be daft to repeat the mistake of offering him - or anyone but the world-class game-changers - stupid money.  That means that the offer from the club would be "We want you to continue what you're doing, but we want to pay you significantly less."  I don't think you have to be an obscenely greedy person to be less-than-enthralled by such an offer.

 

So, yeah, I think we should offer him one, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't accept it.

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Liverpool defender Glen Johnson in Real Madrid's sights Real Madrid prepare to capitalise on Liverpool’s delay in offering Glen Johnson a new contract by making a summer bid
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Real deal? Liverpool and England defender Glen Johnson is out of contract at Anfield in the summer Photo: GETTY IMAGES
 

By John Percy

10:30PM GMT 22 Mar 2014

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Real Madrid are considering a summer bid for Glen Johnson as the Spanish giants prepare to capitalise on Liverpool’s delay in offering the defender a new contract.

Johnson is emerging as a realistic target for Real at the end of the season and Carlo Ancelotti, the manager, has been alerted to the uncertainty over the England international’s future at Anfield.

Liverpool held preliminary negotiations with Johnson over a year ago but have suspended further talks until the summer, when the 29-year-old will enter the final 12 months of his contract.

The club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, are reluctant to pay players lucrative deals when they go beyond their 30th birthday and Johnson is unlikely to be offered significantly more than the £110,000 a week he currently earns.

Ancelotti is in the market for a new right-back, with long-term doubts over Alvaro Arbeloa, and is weighing up a £5million bid for Johnson with the offer of a new challenge in La Liga.

 

 

There is also understood to be interest from rival Premier League clubs, with Arsenal set to target a right-back as they face the prospect of losing Bacary Sagna to either Galatasaray or Inter Milan.

But Real’s interest in Johnson is growing and the chance to join world record signing Gareth Bale in Spain could appeal to the former Chelsea defender.

Liverpool, on course to end their long exile from the Champions League, are prepared to discuss a new deal but their decision to delay talks leaves them open to the risk of losing him.

Earlier this year Johnson admitted: “I’ve loved every minute of the five years I’ve been here and I’d love to stay but really the only truth in it is that I’ve not been offered a new contract on any level.

“No-one has come to me from Liverpool at all. I don’t know the situation the club are in or if they want to renew it. So I’ve not got a decision to make other than to see my contract out because no-one is telling me any different.”

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He's been solid since he's come back from injury and he is undoubtedly a major reason we're enjoying a run of wins. Anyone who suggests otherwise needs to wipe the shit out of their eyes.

 

Yeah, he's undoubtedly(?) a major reason we're enjoying a run of wins. Don't know how this shit got in my eyes.

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But Real’s interest in Johnson is growing and the chance to join world record signing Gareth Bale in Spain could appeal to the former Chelsea defender.

Yup. Working with Ancelloti, Ronaldo & Alonso pales into insignificance in that light... Bizarre.

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Wouldn't be surprised if Madrid where in for him, as I said before sagna who is two years older and shitter is getting 100k a week offers plus big sign on fees so there will be a few clubs willing to give glen a good contract.

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He's been solid since he's come back from injury and he is undoubtedly a major reason we're enjoying a run of wins.  Anyone who suggests otherwise needs to wipe the shit out of their eyes.

 

He should be offered a new contract, but it'd be daft to repeat the mistake of offering him - or anyone but the world-class game-changers - stupid money.  That means that the offer from the club would be "We want you to continue what you're doing, but we want to pay you significantly less."  I don't think you have to be an obscenely greedy person to be less-than-enthralled by such an offer.

 

So, yeah, I think we should offer him one, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't accept it.

So he is "undoubtedly a major reason we're enjoying a run of wins" ( I must have missed all those posts endorsing that view) ,but  we should aim to retain him with a lesser contract whih he will refuse?

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