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    You are such a tiresome cunt and you do appear to come across braindead quite a lot. The argument goes a lot further than that shite you posted above and has done in this thread. But surprise surprise you pop up with some pointless stat which adds nothing to the discussion. I don't think anybody believes his performances have made him a 50K player a week right now. The only people that are arguing for giving him it are putting the point forward they believe he will be in the future. The cost of signing a player to the standard people believe Sterling will become will be a lot more than 50K a week. Therefore the risk of paying him it now is worth it. This is obviously too complicated for a thick cunt such as yourself to comprehend though so do everyone a favour and fuck off.
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    I think everyone would agree with that. The problem is what if that's too late and he's already gone. It comes down to whether you think he's going to be that player or not. If you think he is then it really is a no brainer. We can't afford to risk losing him for peanuts when the prices for players are astronomical.
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    That's something I can't argue with. If you don't think he's good enough to earn that wage then fair enough. It's more to do with the age thing that I am disagreeing with. People don't want him paid that because he's too young and no other players his age are. I think it's all well and good making this moral stand and possibly letting him go because of it, but if in two/three years time he's ripping the back out of defences and is one the best players in the prem and we haven't replaced him and are still a middle table team I will be livid. It's just worth the risk of paying him in my opinion. He might not be worth it now but in the long run it's more than likely he will be. That's opinion as well obviously but if you can't look past the lack of goals and assists and see how good he has been for a player of his age and the sheer size of his potential then you aren't watching the same game as me. He isn't just another youth player. He's the future of the club.
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    I usually find myself agreeing with absolutely everything you say. From the match reports to most things you post. I just think you are completely wrong here. The barometer is set by the market not by us. Even if Sterling goes because we don't want to pay him 50K a week and then another youngster comes in and does something similar he will just be in exactly the same situation. He will have agents who know his worth and what they can command from other clubs. We can't attract players like used to and are trying to combat that by having a good youth system. The downside to that is this exact situation. I would normally just say fuck it, why is everyone arsed, it's not our money. If we aren't paying him it, we'd be paying it to somebody else and the shambles we have made of transfers of late what's to say we wouldn't be paying double to a worse player. Obviously people are discussing the actual business sense of this though. In my opinion it makes business sense to give him what he wants or close to it. The cost to replace Sterling and the potential cost of him going to a rival club far outweigh 50k a week in my eyes. Even if the money suddenly went to his head and made him shit. We have and will no doubt in the future spend more money on players who are worse than Sterling is now. I understand the view that he hasn't exactly scored loads of goals and made lots of assists but that is far outweighed by just how fucking damn good he is. I think it was Dave who made the point that we aren't dealing with a Michael Owen here. I think we are. Sterling is not just some pacy winger, he's a very intelligent player with more composure than most senior pros never mind players of his age. We haven't had a young player of this level come through for over a decade. We should be the place that young players come to because they know they will get their chance. We don't just want to be a stepping stone. We aren't Man Utd we can't afford to let our best youth players go because we simply don't have the financial backing and/or players to replace them. He's a really good young player let's just pay the going rate. If that's 50K then so be it.
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    As mad as it sounds I would actually like to see that. After Suarez he's probably our best dribbler and he's got a good shot with both feet. It could be a disaster but I could see him pulling it off.
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    At Glastonbury we were calling them a midfield. The queues for the bogs were bad sometimes and to save walking all the way there people would obviously try and piss in the bushes but now suddenly you've got the piss police running round with sirens and megaphones catching people doing it. We just decided that if you just piss in the most ridiculous places where people are, hardly anybody notices because it's so ridiculous. Try it in the work car park it will go down a treat.
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    Really good post. Come on people, it's not as if we are getting bummed by everyone. We have played well and dominated a lot of games and could/should have won them. People are just obviously pissed off because the results haven't gone our way and lashing out at the manager. With a few correct decisions our way and a bit of luck we would be in a completely different position. Nothing has gone our way this season and you can't blame Rodgers for that. I don't understand how people cannot look past the results and come out with a more positive conclusion. The fact of the matter is we have changed managers a lot and if you look at the style of play it is completely different to what we have played for over 10 years. It makes us less solid but there is obviously a point to it all and that is to be able to dominate games and be solid in the future when everyone is used to playing that way. It is not going to be rosy from day one no matter who the manager is coming in. Our problem for a while now has been scoring goals. We were so well drilled defensively we were just a really hard team to break down. As Carragher got older and some of our other players left we lost a bit of that solidness but still had no bite at the other end. It was a recipe for disaster and has not been addressed for years now. Every summer when we are crying out for strikers we go and load up on midfielders. Even Rodgers did this. He has however made us a more attacking team which is what was necessary and I was expecting us to lose some games because of the transition. It looks like all these fans kicking off weren't which is the problem. The signs from Rodgers are positive and regardless of if you rate him or not he quite clearly has a plan and ideas of what he wants to implement. Sacking him four months in will not do us any good at all. It will just mean another manager will come using all the same players and try and implement his ideas and it won't change anything immediately. Unfortunately you can't just iron out individual errors which are the things that are costing us.
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    If Wisdom is fit I can see this being the case. He will probably put Johnson LB and Enrique left wing. Wisdom has looked a bit shaky recently. I would prefer Johnson there to be honest and he offers more coming from RB than LB. I think we should play three in the middle but it should be Sahin for Henderson. They have got Huddleston who is big but he isn't really that much of a physical player and Parker is also out. We should control it from the middle of the pitch. Since AVB has took over they have looked more like a team of individuals. They have got some really quick players capable of running at us and scoring individual goals, we just have to keep the ball like we usually do and pressure them quickly. They don't seem the type of team to try and keep the ball for long. Just like in any game we have had this season we just need to take our chances and the rest will look after itself.
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    People got far too carried away with it in my opinion. The way I always seen it was that it was very good defensively. It really stifled other teams and we became literally the hardest team to break down in world football and that's no exaggeration. No matter if you were Derby County or Man United you sturggle to score against us. It put us on a level playing field with every other team in the world because it meant that the only way to beat us was with a stroke of brilliance or a stroke of luck. The only problem with it and it turned out to be a fucking big problem was it meant we were very lop sided. We did not get players forward anywhere near enough. It felt like hundreds of our games were 0-0 at half time and well beyond. We did, however, have Gerrard and Torres at their peak of their powers and bang in form. More often than not they bailed the team out and made us the team that got that stroke of luck or had the piece of brilliance to win the game. People somehow think that this made Benitez's teams attacking. It didn't at all. We were negative as anything with two brilliant players acting as impact players and it worked for a while. A lot of that time that people remember it working so great, it actually wasn't. It was only when Gerrard got pulled back into midfield and other attackers were thrown on that we actually came back and won the games in the season we finished second. In the end they both came out of that form and we lost our solidness at the back and we fell to pieces. Everyone was suddenly shocked but it was a fucking accident waiting to happen. The team Benitez assembled which was great was being stifled by his own tactics and substitutions. A few parts got unhappy and either left or dropped in form and the whole thing fell to pieces. The problem with playing one man up front creates so many problems and not just the obvious type. You begin to rely on that forward because he plays every game. He gets flogged unlike forwards at other top clubs. When he does get injured you don't have a forward of similar quality to come in who is match fit because nobody that good is willing to sit on the bench for that long in the first place.
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    It really is just different shades of grey. It's funny how quickly people forget how isolated Torres used to be in Benitez's variant on that formation. The reason he scored so many goals is because he was that good. The formation didn't help him at all. At the end of the day all it comes down to is that you have one man up front. If you play one man or two men up front it is still important to get more men in the box when the ball is wide. Man Utd have been doing it for years and it's why I think they have been the most successful team. You don't have to be Kevin Keegan to be attacking and accept you are going to concede some goals. It was a thing that used to annoy me in the Benitez years and it's still something we haven't got in the habit of doing. Under Benitez we permanently had the shackles on until the last 15 mins of games or unless it was a must win game. It worked great for him one season but eventually cost us the chance of winning the league. Until we get out of this mentality we will always struggle to break teams down.
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    The first one I spotted was someone called Brentie saying he's crying more tonight than the day he got sacked. It's a fucking goldmine. You can actually picture some of these sad cunts actually in bits looking at their computer screen. Fucking gimps. I find it all quite funny. It's a fucking car crash waiting to happen. Rafa's history with owners and he goes there of all places. Who was the actual last manager to sign a player? His fucking lunatic decisions even had Anfield mildly groaning sometimes imagine the amount of foaming at the mouth he will cause at Chelsea. It's going to be fucking hysterical..
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    Killian = Louis Walsh
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    HAHAHAHAHA Absolutely fucking hysterical.
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    What are you on about you nutter? Forget about strikers, we need to spend what money we have on signing some defensive midfielders. With Lucas out we're fucked. If he was playing or if we had a suitable replacement we wouldn't have conceded any of those stupid goals leaving us with 0 against and a lot more points. Come on. What do you think is more realistic, signing some forwards and scoring more goals than we are to win games or aiming to concede no goals all season?
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    When you think about what the options are, it's a no brainer really. It's sounds ridiculous but we should be glad/hoping he's not demanding more. He would probably be one of the most sought after players in the prem if he became available. He's 17 and has got more composure and the ability to go with it than a lot early 20 year olds. Clubs blow tens of millions on players hoping they will work in the prem and give them 5 years plus service. The odd time a gem comes through the youth system of one of the big clubs. Nobody seems to have a clue what to do in terms of paying them. Is it worth taking the risk of not giving him what he wants? He's one of the brightest stars in the prem and is pretty much a guaranteed starter already for us. Say we don't give him what he wants, how much is it going to cost to replace him now and what could the potential cost of not having him in the team in 2/3 years be? In my opinion they need to just pay him what he wants and get on with it. If he suddenly turns shit and is on a 5 year deal worth £12m is that really that bad? We've blown more than that on transfer fees for players in the past never mind the wages we paid them and Sterling would have a sell on value.
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    Yeah and that's his opinion you crank.
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    They are a fucking laughing stock.
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    Haha love this.
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    To be honest I can't see the films being as good if they had showed Princess Leia campaigning against the poll tax. I will be gutted if they don't base the new films on the books which looks like what is happening. Admiral Thrawn would make an excellent on screen bad guy.
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    She's on 8 out of 10 cats now looking unreal.
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