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I think both teams will suprise this seasons and finish in the Top 10 this season and finish above the likes of West Ham, Blackburn, Man City and possibly Everton.

For some unknown reason two old cartoons popped into my head earlier. 'Wait 'Til Your father gets Home' and 'The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan'. Anybody else have some old shite they used to watch suddenly come back to them?

When we signed Nigel Clough, people said he was a "Liverpool type player". What Liverpool type players can you think of that we DIDNT sign. Players that should really have played in red for us but never did.

Was talking with the boys about this in the pub earlier and seems like a GF kind of topic. Do you guys shave your chests and ladies which do you prefer?

Just happened to see a couple of minutes of a Setanta News phone in whilst channel surfing yesterday. Nearly choked on my cup of tea! They had a bluenose on the line to Steve Claridge, and he was complaiing a bout the lack of transfer activity. The female presenter (name escapes me) then thanked the caller and went on to say how well Moyes had done because in his five years in charge he had only spent £21 million! Cue a lot of sage-like nods from Claridge who then said he wished Moyes and Everton all the very best, because if anyone needed some good fortune, it was them. So apparently, Moyes has only spent £5 million per season on average!

http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/962201/TX-SR505_En.pdf Bought the above today, with the plan to use it with my existing set of surround sound speakers and subwoofer. Thing is, while the speaker cable inputs on the above are what I expected (normal speaker cable where you twizzle the cable and lock it in) the subwoofer input on the back of the AV is expecting some sort of other input type (on the old pro logic thingy is was the same standard speaker cable input as the normal speakers) If you can make sense of the above, can you tell me what I need to get my subwoofer input to the av box?

Football: Fulham agree £11m fee with Everton for Andy Johnson | Football | guardian.co.uk £11m rising to £13m? Did I miss a meeting? Makes the £87bn we paid for Keane look like daylight robbery. Fulham are a fucking joke.

... its only footballers houses on Merseyside that get robbed. The partner of footballer Emile Heskey was threatened at knifepoint by robbers at the couple's home. The house in Hale, Greater Manchester, was targeted by two men while the Wigan Athletic and England striker was at a training session last Wednesday. The men stole jewellery before they took the keys to the footballer's BMW X5 and made their escape. Heskey, 30, said his fiancee Chantelle Tagoe had been left "very upset and shaken" by the incident. The forward said he and Ms Tagoe wanted to put the "ordeal" behind them. In a statement, he said: "I am very glad and relieved to report that my partner, Chantelle, was not hurt and my children were away from the house at the time of the incident. "Chantelle was obviously very upset and shaken by what happened and is still very, very distressed but we both just want to put the ordeal behind us and get back to normality." He added: "The incident is being investigated by the Greater Manchester Police and we are confident they will capture the culprits to stop them doing this again to any other families. "If anybody does have any information or think they can help in any way please contact the police immediately." A Wigan Athletic spokesman said: "We can confirm that there was an incident at Emile Heskey's home. Thankfully no-one was hurt." 'Victims of crime' A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said: "Officers discovered a woman had been threatened at knifepoint after two men broke into the address. "The men escaped with a number of items in a stolen BMW. "Inquiries are continuing." The Premier League player started his career with Leicester City, before moving to Liverpool in 2000. He went to Birmingham four years later and has been playing for Wigan since 2006. His statement continued: "We are both very conscious that many people are victims of these kinds of crimes everyday and my thoughts are with anybody who has gone through what my family is going through at the moment. "But as I say, the event is in the past, I would like this statement to be the end of the matter and draw a line under it and get on with our lives." Story from BBC NEWS: BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Robbery gang target Heskey's home

A NOTORIOUS bodybuilding fanatic’s claim he is no longer obsessed with squeezing men’s muscles has been rejected. Judge William George turned down Akinwale Arobieke’s plea that “he is a changed man”, saying “there is a material significant risk” he would repeat his “odd and eccentric” behaviour. The 46-year-old, who admitted he was “infamous, notorious, everything from a bogeyman to whatever”, had gone to court to have a restrictive sexual offenders prevention order (Sopo) overturned. He was given the order on the day he was released from prison for harassment and witness intimidation in 2006, but claimed it was made illegally and was far too punitive. Regional news In association with The Royal Bank of Scotland You’re still a risk, muscles man Aki told Jul 22 2008 by Ben Turner, Liverpool Echo Akinwale Arobieke A NOTORIOUS bodybuilding fanatic’s claim he is no longer obsessed with squeezing men’s muscles has been rejected. Judge William George turned down Akinwale Arobieke’s plea that “he is a changed man”, saying “there is a material significant risk” he would repeat his “odd and eccentric” behaviour. The 46-year-old, who admitted he was “infamous, notorious, everything from a bogeyman to whatever”, had gone to court to have a restrictive sexual offenders prevention order (Sopo) overturned. He was given the order on the day he was released from prison for harassment and witness intimidation in 2006, but claimed it was made illegally and was far too punitive. Story continues Continue story ADVERTISEMENT But 20-stone, 6ft 5in Arobieke’s appeal to quash the Sopo was yesterday formerly thrown out at Liverpool crown court. Judge George and two magistrates had heard allegations Arobieke, who has never been convicted of a sexual offence, continued to grope and intimidate men in jail. Judge George concluded a Sopo was necessary as “we have formed the view there is a material significant risk” of Arobieke “engaging in activities with young men of the nature of feeling muscles with or without close bodily contact (squatting and bear hugs).” Hope none of you think he isn't watching you when you are at your most vulnerable as he clearly is, particularly when you're getting in the bath.

BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Nigeria footballer's brother held We could make tasteless songs like the blueshite, but I for one hope he is returned safe and sound.

Latest instalment in the ongoing saga of Purps. It's the headline that made me giggle. icLiverpool - Muscle squeezer Aki loses appeal A LIVERPOOL man has failed in his bid to get an order banning him from squeezing young men’s muscles lifted. Akinwale Arobieke is notorious across Merseyside for his "obsession" with groping and measuring boys muscles and seeing young men squat. His behaviour led to police hitting him with a restrictive sexual offenders prevention order (SOPO) the day he was released from a six-year prison sentence for harassment and witness intimidation in 2006. All this week the 20-stone body-building obsessive has been bidding to get the magistrates order quashed – despite allegations he has continued to grope and intimidate men in prison. The 46-year-old, who admitted he was "infamous, notorious, everything from a bogeyman to whatever", claimed the order had been made illegally and was far too punitive. But yesterday Judge William George, sitting with two magistrates, rejected the appeal. Judge George told 6ft 5in Arobieke, who has never been convicted of a sexual offence, the order was valid. It will remain in full until July 21 when he will give his formal judgement. Judge George added he would be "amenable" to relaxing some of the conditions on that day, such as giving asthma sufferer Arobieke permission to travel through areas he is currently banned from, including St Helens, Widnes and Warrington. Judge George said Arobieke’s breach of the SOPO on April 24, 2007, when he squeezed a man’s arm in a Preston shopping centre, revealed his continuing fascination with muscles. He said: "It does show he is out of control. He is out of his own control according to his own evidence." He was jailed for a further 21 months following the breach. Judge George added: "At the end of the day, Akinwale Arobieke, we are not going to allow this appeal." Liverpool Crown Court heard Arobieke, formerly of Cavendish Gardens, Toxteth, kept a "stalker’s manual" packed with personal details about his victims. Kenderik (corr) Horne, prosecuting, said he would become sexually excited as he groped athletic young boys, performed bear hugs and jumped on their backs. But Arobieke insisted he had never got any sexual pleasure from the touching and had only been motivated by his desire to find the world’s next body-building champion. Robert Wynn-Jones, defending, said: "He was achieving infamy in Liverpool and surrounding areas and he was engaging in – in his own words – eccentric behaviour. "His reputation grew as a local bogeyman. Stories about him grew wilder and wilder."

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to rep the living daylights out of Rebel23, so that he goes from 5 red splodges to full greenage. While this would mystify the living, er, mist, out of *f-ers, it'd also be interesting to see how quickly the nutjob reaquires his negatron status. Here's a link to a random post by him: http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/ff-football-forum/56157-riise-going-nowhere-9.html#post1203257 Get repping assjackets!

I didn't want to hijack Robbeef's domestic violence thread, so I thought I'd start a new one. It's obvious that there doesn't seem to be a topic on here, no matter how distasteful, that isn't above having the piss ripped out of it, and it often ends in a slanging match. It got me thinking about whether there is a GF line that shouldn't be crossed and what subjects (if any) should be taboo. Personally, I take the piss out of most things, even (often especially) if I have first hand experience of it. That's just my humour, sometimes things are so bad that you have to put up an emotional barrier, and see a funny side. At the same time, if somebody else is affected by a subject that's too close to home, I'd respect that and wouldn't take a "Oh, chill the fuck out" attitude with them over it. So what does everyone else think? What subjects should be taboo? Personally, I wouldn't touch anything child-abuse related with a shitty stick, or make Maddy jokes. But pretty much anything else goes.

These bad boys are class And then the first ever live TV ad that was on the other night

have never got used to them.ive always felt real police have the power. ;)

Back in the Roy Evans days, is this thing about the players passing around a coin during the match actually true or is it made up?

Stu Monty is a Manc Liz macdonald would get it Red Nick is a maverick genius We don't give a shit about Celtic or Rangers The Yak shagged Feltz Shoes Aaron Miller is gay Remmies Balls

Just started work at my new permanent base in some nice big new smart offices in Leeds (hence my drastically reduced daytime post rate). I've just walked past a bird's desk and noticed her desktop is set to a picture of Fabregas. I walked past and looked slightly behind only to catch her full eye contact with a daft "trying to stop a big smug smile" smirk on my face. She must think I'm a right weirdo now. She did give me an odd look. Bugger.

Class act. Why can't footballers at least raise their hand to shake hands with a 11 year old kid, let alone go out of their way to acknowledge them?

Saved the Grand National! In the 1970s the Grand National, as an event, wasdying. We all remember it as halcyon days, withRed Rum winning three times. But in 1977, when Rummie won his third race, fewer than 10,000spectators were there. The race has been resurrected, in 2007, the crowd was 68,000. Backthen Aintree was owned by an eccentric old lady, Mirabel Topham, with Ladbrokes having the thankless task of managing it for her. Onepoor chap was sent up to the course and given a scruffy office with a couple of desks and phonesand told to sort out tickets, sponsors, hospitality- the lot. The only way he got through it was withhelp from a surprising source. Every day, afterfootball training finished at Liverpool, Emlyn Hughes and Terry McDermott, big horse racing fans, came over with a crate of beer and got onthe phones to make the sales calls. Somehow youcan't quite imagine Torres and Kewell doing it. Class!

Yakubu...

Because all my mates are skint/imaginary. I may still go out with the one remaining wealthy one later though. What's your excuse?

Because we fucking need one. Finnan is a good option to have in the squad but I feel Arbeloa offers pretty much nothing at all. What qualities does he have, seriously? I know Rafa wanted Lucas Neill but had to settle for Arbeloa. He has to go in the summer, last Sunday against the Mancs was the definite proof of that. He was all over the place.

You should count yourselves very lucky today. I'm disappointed we didn't win by 5 or 6 goals. You did what the smaller clubs do at OT, defend in numbers, 11 men behind the ball and hope to hit us on the break. Fair enough, but your defence isn't good enough (Carragher and Skittle are absolutely woeful if you're being honest) and when the defensive system doesn't work you're gonna get easily beaten by the big 3. Torres looked uninterested too, I heard a rumour at the ground today that Sir Alex wants him in the Summer. Should be interesting.