Turkish Delight

We're way too relaxed and casual in tracking back. Examples to add to the Virgil one in the post are: - Four players jogging back and leaving Robbo one on one for Brighton's early chance last week. - Konate for Brighton's second jogging behind Trossard up until the point he scores. He jogged to about two yards away when he shot but would have been there with a sprint. - Trent prior to the ball being played to Fornals yesterday (he sprinted when it was too late but could see where the danger was before then).

Torres had given up a long time before he left and his lack of effort was obvious for the whole of Rafa's last season. He then gave an interview saying how great it was to reach his aim of playing for a top level club when he signed for Chelsea.

He played against us how he plays against everyone. There was nothing disgraceful or disrespectful about that. I found it nauseating to look at social media fawning over Torres tonight while Suarez was booed. One gave his all in every game for Liverpool while the other didn't put a shift in for 18 months except when it helped his move and was slagging us off within a week of leaving.

One thing I noticed second half is that at 2-1 we were still trying to force the play to get up the pitch for a 3rd and putting ourselves under pressure. One example I recall was Alisson collecting a ball and throwing it out quickly to Robbo (I think) who was then pressed out of possession in our half. We needed a breather at the time. Two years ago we were brilliant at seeing games out and taking the sting out of them but we seem to be playing higher risk football now aimed at scoring more goals and it's leaving us vulnerable. On Konate, I thought he was awful on the second goal. His initial mistake was stepping up to play offside against a lad on their left who wasn't affecting play early in the move but my biggest issue was with his light jog back after realising he'd left us facing a 3v2 by doing that. He had maybe a 50/50 chance at best of affecting play if he sprinted so it was no guarantee he's have stopped the goal but he should have at least tried. It didn't look like he could be arsed.

We were way too passive second half. I couldn't work out if it it was a lack of discipline and energy in midfield or whether we playing too deep in defence. Or both. Either way it was shite. Disappointing result but a point more than we deserved. As a side note, Konate's lack of effort in his running back on their second goal after mistakenly stepping up to play offside and leaving them 3v2 was embarrassing. Had he sprinted might have had a slight chance of affecting play. Instead he jogged and watched.

7 goals in 146 PL appearances for Adam Traore. The hype around him just because he can run fast is crazy.

It's Diouf for me. The team he joined had not been far off in the league and signing him over Anelka for what was big money at the time took us down more than a level. He was also a terrible representative of the club. I get the Balotelli shout too though. I often heard it said that he had the ability to be a world beater in there somewhere. He really didn't and was just an ordinary talent with a load of hype because he was a bit crazy. He didn't give a fuck at all either. I recall a goal we conceded at Hull where we pushed out on a set piece and he stood in the 6 yard box watching everyone go as he couldn't be arsed. It's no surprise to me that at 31 he's playing for some no mark Turkish team.

I'm sure the blues will refer to him as Andrew rather than Andy.

I fail to see how City continuing to break FFP rules make a Super League more palatable. I recall reading Real and Barca had guarantees on more money, how there'd being no protection on where games would be played in future and how it would dilute competition even further. It would also be a great way for a franchise like New York City to become massive in time if they entered (which they would eventually). I'd rather Liverpool won occasional trophies in the current set up where I can actually go to games than win occasional trophies in an even less attractive set up where I can't.

I totally respect the views of anyone who wants England to lose but while not mad, passionate about it I want them to win it. My view on it is that while there are plenty of cunts in this country there's also plenty in every team's fanbase including ours and the national sides from elsewhere. I hate the government, the media, the empire and the war references and I'm a republican so won't sing God Save The Queen but I've travelled about enough to know most people are decent and won't spend their days singing about German bombers or looking down their nose at others. I've also spent time abroad which focuses my mind on it a little too. I'm from England and while not exactly full of pride in that I also have more staked here than any other place.

Yep.

Totally agree that the players were there to be successful in a different system. Eriksson was a weak link as manager in the same way Southgate is now.

It looks great on paper (James apart) but they played 4-4-2 with no natural holding midfielder and Scholes on the left wing. Eriksson just tried to force his best players on to the pitch in a system that would always get found out at some point.

Edgar Davids always comes to mind for me on this sort of topic. He was just a clogger who spent his career kicking people but managed to get his face everywhere as he wore a funky pair of glasses. I agree on Willian being over-rated too. A very inconsistent player who's averaged 5 Premier League goals a season playing as an attacking player for a top club for most of his career.

I'd much rather they followed the Middlesbrough route after losing in the UEFA cup final of appointing Gareth Southgate and getting relegated within 3 years.

If they had an oil state sportswashing their human rights abuses away while spending billilons on them they'd be rioting as much as their neighbours. Fuck them.

All of the owners of the other 14 are very much similar to the owners of the 'Big Six' in the greedy, horrible cunts stakes. They just don't own a brand appealing enough to have had the invitation. The teams that tried to start this Super League are fucked now though when it comes to negotiations. It was their nuclear deterrant. The threat of it was more beneficial to them than actually the reality of doing anything with it. They've just lost their biggest bargaining chip

When Hicks and Gillett were here I had fire in my belly and was busy sending emails and taking part in protests but I just feel apathy now. Football has been an obsession for me for nearly 40 years and given me some amazing experiences and memories but I'm done. I've loved it less and less with each passing year and this is the final straw for me. My membership is being cancelled in the Summer and when my ticket credits are gone I know there'll be no way back. It's sad but I've had enough of lining the pockets of greedy cunts to take in a product which is progressing to bland, light entertainment. Time to go and find something else positive to focus my spare time on.

I was mates with a Leeds season ticket holder at uni around the time we signed him who'd been moaning about him for about a year before he came to Liverpool. That made me pay more attention to how he was playing and the excitement passed me by when we got him as he wasn't great in his last year there. As others have said he looked fantastic as a young player but the injuries took the pace out of his game. I met him a few years back and he seemed like a nice fella. He said going off in Istanbul was the toughest thing in his career but he knew he'd picked up an injury and needed to come off as he'd be letting the team down to play on when they could bring a fully fit player on instead. I felt a bit of sympathy for him especially when the consequences of Karius staying on in Kiev were what they were some time after that (although I acknowledge he may not have realised he was concussed).

One of the highlights of my youth was being mentioned in the Beano as the 6 year old from Liverpool who'd forgot to write his name on the slip when it was sent it in.

There's no distrubution of goals at all which is the big problem. Only Salah and Jota (when he's been fit) have scored regularly. The narrow wins became draws and narrow defeats when Jota got injured and we became completely dependent on Salah. Every combination of our entire midfield has 3 league goals between them and the last centre half to score at a set piece was Van Dijk in the first game against Leeds. We rarely shoot from distance, we have no physical presence in the box at any time and our midfielders hold back and don't make late runs in. It doesn't make for a prolific team especially when you add two hugely under-performing forwards.

Glad that's helped a few people. I just stumbled across it earlier trying to find some info for my Dad as he was told by his GP he'd need to wait a bit longer. Not sure why it isn't publicised.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/ My Dad is 64 and registered on there earlier today. He's booked in for tomorrow.

If you're over 64 or had a letter in the past saying you're high risk you can book in on the NHS website without waiting for them to contact you.

I remember reading the story of how he co-wrote Phoenix Nights with Dave Spikey and Neil Fitzmaurice but then made sure he took the sole credit for it. He's funny but he probably is a cunt.