Bob

Same. Same. Same.

@dave u bump.

@dave u I just sent £36 via bank transfer / can you gold me when you get a minute. Cheers.

I don’t remember there being a “crucial match-deciding decision go wrong in an obvious way every other match” personally. I remember there being shit I complained about with refs and bad decisions but that’s still the case now. I do remember there being things like the Sterling offside, the flagrant non sending off of a Chelsea player for something egregious, and I’m sure a decent number more, but for those I can straight away say - Pickford on van dijk, Bobby offside by an armpit, Diaz not offside plus two terrible red cards in a single match, and Odegaard non-handball off the very top of my head. im not saying it’s worse than it was in terms of getting decisions wrong. I’m saying it’s not sufficiently better to be worth the trade off of having the most spontaneous joy you can ask for to be spoiled.

That use of “celebrate” needs a very big pair of “air quotes”.

That just makes me really sad. The look on the kids eyes he doesn’t know what the words mean - and nor should he. fucking hell.

My question to you is, of all the goals we’ve scored since VAR came in - which is hundreds and hundreds - what percentage do you believe you’ve genuinely celebrated fully in the moment? Chelsea last week, at the match in person, I didn’t really celebrate the first properly cause of the “we’ll find an offensive handball if we can” doctrine. second one I went nuts at the time but we were all cut short in singing the lads name for his first senior goal due to a lengthy check, so while I celebrated the goal it was stunted overall. I remember a header Mo scored last year where it might’ve gone out of play so nobody cheered, even Mo didn’t bother. I reckon, just as a feeling, with no science to back it up, I reckon I’ve fully, properly celebrated less than half the goals we’ve scored since VAR came in. I’ve also sat and got frustrated watching the interminable delays. I’ve also had to watch legitimate goals be ruled out for armpit, chest hair and toenail offsides. I’ve also had to watch my players sent off for the same things other don’t. I’ve also had to watch a legitimate goal be disallowed because of a good process. you can point to Sterling vs City, and we can each then go onto remember another half a dozen or so injustices in the old ways, but I’m not sure I can remember more from the equivalent number of years pre-var as I can post, honestly. and for what?

And to stop internet virgins arguing i on the internet. Jury’s out there too.

Two things from tv action shows and films, both specifically relevant from watching Berlin Station series 3. Spies taking photos with their phone having the camera sound on. server rooms being lit up like a scene from tron.

With what? What’s the red stuff?

Negging this. If you can’t pick it up and eat it with your hands you’re taking the piss.

@Mooks new favourite song. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68209691

They’re all somewhere on the Bristol stool scale mate, it’s just one of them has to be “worst” and for me it’s Anthony Taylor and has been for a long old while.

I have a distinction between the two. Taylor is the worst ref. Tierney is the most bent/biased against us. Taylor is terrible. Even when it’s a match we’re not playing in. I don’t think the same is true of Tierney.

that’s right, and as the lads said on the pod today - especially Jules - you’d be wrong to say he was a major impact on the result, but still… minutes before Konate’s first yellow he chose not to give a free kick to Jota because it was both players at it. Yet Matinelli is grabbing all over Konate and making no play for the ball and yet free kick, instant yellow. Then seconds after the (fair) second yellow, completely ignores the foul on numez (and certain yellow for Gabriel). no way his fault we lost and in reality only minor impact on the game overall but his selective approach to refereeing is why I maintain he’s the absolute worst ref in the league.

I remember laughing when on holiday last year in fuertaventura that a vegetarian pizza had tuna on it.

Fair enough, I know where you’re coming from, but I say leave that to them.

We may have got a free kick that Anthony Taylor had already decided not to give? Bloody nonsense.

I was kidding. Pete provides 96.2% of the content of this thread.

Especially with how well Joe has done in two games vs Saka.

It doesn’t though. It just comes from Pete’s Facebook feed.

And now this morning just had a decent full English with a few disappointing notes. no mushrooms was annoying - but my missus shared some from her veggie option - and the egg was hard. Otherwise very nice and the meaty parts were superb.

Stayed in best western Forest Hills in Frodsham after the match Wednesday night, so had a brekkie Thursday morning before work, with a view over the Mersey for company. Was standard buffet fayre, overcooked eggs and not very good black pudding and the beans might as well’ve been sitting in water. good sausages and bacon though.

I’m not sure they did. Maybe Ali, but van Dijk was outstanding from day one. “worlds best” is a perception and you’re never going to think someone at Southampton is worlds best. So he needed to be at a bigger club playing on a bigger stage to be seen as being that good. Doesn’t mean he had to get better. Thiago was already at the biggest clubs on the biggest stage and wasn’t considered the world best.

Nor was Thiago, ever. He was class, but never the best in the world. And both Ali and van Dijk were as good in their first seasons for us as they ever were, so I’d argue they didn’t have to improve to be recognised as best in the world, they just had to prove it at a higher level than they were playing.