Squabblefest

Utterly fucking bizarre isn't it? I genuinely presumed it was a typo and they'd got the 'season ticket holders' mixed up with the 'members'. Surely simple common sense dictates that it should be; Away game attendees for the early rounds then season ticket holders and then members with a ton of games from this/last season. Then whatever's left to the rest of us. This is fucking senseless and if I'd gone the away games I'd be furious right now..

Some great posting on here today. Zig and Trumo both playing a blinder.

A big part of me sort of wishes that he was still good and still here. But seems as he's not great and somewhere else, I can't really get too upset.

Dear LFCTV, I'll be honest here and say I'm going to illegally stream the game for free but I promise that I'll keep my eyes shut throughout and pretend that I'm getting the full LFCTV experience. (I also plan on trying it at the QPR game next month at Anfield. I'll let you know how I get on.)

Reporter : "Charlie, Is it true you once saw Andy Carroll actually control a pass from a team-mate?" Charlie Adam : "No, it wasn't me. I've only been here six months." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dalglish and Suarez Unite to Deny Racism Claims. Kenny Dalglish : "Luis wants to make it clear that he has no problem with any of our rival team's wogs." Luis Suarez : "Or the chinks." ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pepe Reina watches Dirk Kuyt control a ball with his first touch.

I really like them. They're my, 'If not us, might as well be them' club to be honest. Let's not forget that a couple of seasons back when we had the minutes silence at Anfield for the Hillsborough victims, their fans were fucking impeccable in keeping it. I'll always respect them for that and, (along with the Sunderland fans continually demonstrating support), they've got a virtual lifetime pass off me. Plus, any team that gets relegated and still pulls in, (I think), 30,000 plus at games deserves respect anyway. It's hardly Chelsea suddenly 'discovering' an extra 15,000 'fans' as soon as there's a fucking chance of winning stuff is it.? But the best thing about City's seemingly inevitable rise is that it fucking destroys United's claims to being anything special. The argument is that once Rupert Murdoch's billions of pounds started pouring in to English football then any pretence that the Premier League was a level-(ish) playing field was fucking over. The huge discrepancy between income of clubs meant that whoever maximised their revenue streams in the new worldwide market could outspend their nearest rivals to such a ridiculous degree that, as a competition, the league was virtually over before a single ball had been kicked. Hence the rise of the 'mighty' United. Whilst the superb crop of kids that the academy threw up undoubtedly played it's part in the early 90's, along with the experience of the manager; you can still make an argument that the single most important component of that clubs continued success was the fact that the fucking bean-counters and merchandising departments played an absolute blinder throughout the 80's and 90's. The hypothesis is thus; 'Stability + Half-Decent Manager + Ability to Outspend Rivals = Premier League trophy.' Chelsea showed it with Mourinho. It was no mistake that as soon as he showed up, got the team playing like an actual fucking team and spent Abramovich's filthy gangster/oil money like an autistic kid in Toy's 'R' Us. Ferguson won precisely fuck all in the way of titles. Of course, as soon as Roman began undermining Jose's authority, then the 'Stability' part of the equation was gone and they've been left with a bunch of aging, menopausal mercenarys playing for themselves ever since. (Apart from the revival under Hiddink when the 'stability' was briefly restored.) What City are currently doing is showing precisely how insubstantial United's success has been as well as rendering any criticism by United fans utterly redundant. United fans can say, 'Your managers nothing special. He's just had more money than anyone else.' City's fans can reply likewise. United fans can say, 'We financed our own success. You bought yours.' City fans can reply that money is fucking money regardless of how it comes into the club. It literally makes no fucking difference once the money is there. You outspent everyone, you won things. We outspend everyone, we win things. Fuck you. Rather beautifully, United are beginning to lose the game based on the rules that they virtually invented. Personally, I still think they, (United), will win the title this season. Let's not forget that twenty plus years of continued investment and out-earning your nearest rivals, still easily outweighs the £300 million or so that City have thrown at their team over the last few years. It fucking dwarfs anything Sheik Mansoour has pissed away on his new toy in the last couple of transfer windows. You can't even compare the two. So I'd take City as the new hire-purchase owners of the Premier League trophy, if that's what is going to happen, (and I mean that in its most literal sense. They've bought it. It's theirs for a while.) Well done to all concerned. But in the same way that Westlife have had more number one singles than the Beatles over the last twenty years. I'll still see no reason to get too carried away with any of their recent successes.

John Terry's Conspiracy Corner. Case File #1. In the first of a new series we'll be asking everyone's favourite alleged cockney racist to pit his cognitive skills against some of history's most contentious events and to give us the definitive answer. We're starting with the JFK assassination. November 22 1963. A date etched on everybody's mind as the most infamous day in American history. But just who shot and killed the most charismatic president of the most powerful nation on earth? The official report claims it was Lee Harvey Oswald acting as a 'lone nut' from the Texas Book Depository whilst others have claimed it was hired hitmen from the Giancana crime syndicate on the infamous 'grassy knoll', still others have claimed the CIA had both the resources and the motive. But today it's time to put all that speculation to rest and ask John Terry for the authoritative answer. Over to you John.. JT: 'It was the blacks.' Thanks for that John. Stayed tuned for part two, only in The Liverpool Way. ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jones reacts stoically to the news that he'll be man-marking Luis Suarez at Anfield. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Terry's Conspiracy Corner. Case File #2. Who killed Our Lord Jesus Christ.? Another contentious issue. Whilst received wisdom has it that it was the Jews that could, and perhaps should, have saved Our Lord from his lingering death on the cross, other scholars have pointed to the fact that they were merely subjects under the harsh totalitarian regime of the mighty Roman Empire and that resistance would have been futile. John Terry has had full access to the ancient manuscripts and the greatest minds of our time and is ready to deliver his damning verdict. Over to you John.. JT: 'It was the Paki's.' Thanks for that John. Stay tuned for the third and final verdict. Only in The Liverpool Way. ----------------------------------------------------------------- John Terry : "So the policeman says, 'Sorry Mr Terry, but I'm afraid that burning cross on your front lawn is a fire hazard..'" Luis Suarez : "It's political correctness gone mad." ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Terry's Conspiracy Corner. Case File #3. Who sank The Titanic.? Lord Peter Horthcrofte, the pre-eminent British Naval historian, has said that the tragedy was, "simply unavoidable given the hubris of all involved in the great tragedy of this paramount symbol of man's infallibilty." Whilst for years officials of the White Star Line have said that the architect firm of Harland and Wolff must surely shoulder the lions share of the blame. But now, finally, John Terry has applied his intellectual rigour to the case and will now deliver the ultimate verdict. Over to you John.. JT: 'It was the fucking Muslims.' So there we have it. Definitive proof, I think you'll agree. Join us in next months issue when Luis Suarez will be revealing just why 'The Black and White Minstrel Show' is overdue a comeback. Only in The Liverpool Way.

I think Spurs may well continue to get results. The defence look reasonably solid, the midfield are fluid and with Bale, Parker and Modric supplying the bullets for an in-form Adebayor, (with Defoe on the bench), then there's a decent degree of strength in depth as well. Chelsea are going to struggle with Villa Boas in danger of being the latest manager to lose that aging, menopausal dressing room of theirs and Arsenal are not just likely to fall apart when the going gets tough, it's virtually to be expected. With the top two places seemingly going to the Manchester clubs then it's genuinely two from four of the teams currently in the top seven. Personally, I think it'll be us and Spurs.

Yeah, point taken about Carragher, but it's looking more and more likely that Bellamy's been bought as an impact sub to be utilised on the left, (where I think Downing should be kept to play himself into form, as his performances on the right have been fucking dire), so I presume Dalglish is going to keep using Bellamy as nothing but a substitute. And personally I'd be tempted to do the same thing with Carroll because Kuyt, Maxi and Suarez, (last season at least), have showed themselves to be a lot more mobile around the opposing area.

---------------Reina--------------- Kelly----Carra----Agger----Enrique-- Maxi---Spearing--Adam--Downing--- ----------Kuyt-----Suarez---------- I'd just try and fix the obvious problems with the way the team's performing. I'm sorry to say it but Henderson is currently a Carling Cup player and nothing else. If Flanagan's going to be dropped after the Sunderland game for, (I think), three misplaced passes and an obvious drop in confidence then Henderson's getting nowhere near the first team any time fucking soon after Swansea. Quite frankly, he looks petrified on the pitch and while I don't doubt his inate talent, his decision making has been fucking abymsal. Looking at the lad and just how much he's struggling to settle, I honestly think it's going to be next year after a full pre-season until he starts playing to his undoubted potential. There's not much difference between Kelly and Johnson, but to me, Kelly's slightly stronger defensively and his crossing seems more accurate so I'd continue to blood the youngster and let him carry on his phenomonal development. It doesn't seem that long ago since he was making his first team debut, (remember Carragher continually passing the ball to him to help settle his nerves in the early stages of the European games? Lovely touch, that.) I'd drop Lucas and just play an out and out defensive midfielder and again, let Speo crack on from his superb performances at the latter end of last season. Give him orders to get the ball and just give it to Adam in a sort of Fisher-Price Alonso/Mascherano combo. Maxi, Suarez, Downing and Kuyt should be told that if one of them has the ball in a decent crossing position then the other three should get in the fucking box to get on the end of it, for Christ's sake. We should break in numbers and always have men overlapping in advanced positions like we did so successfully last season. It worked then, you've got to presume it'll work now. Hardly rocket science is it? And that's it. Fuck price tags, fuck reputations. Get the best men on the pitch and pass and move.

Kris Akabusi is my favourite one. Awooga. And I can prove I'm not racist because I used to watch Desmonds on Channel 4 and I've got 'An Audience With Lionel Richie' saved on my Sky + box. So fuck you.

Absolutely fair points that you've raised and you are right that we should be beating these teams at home. What I would say is that we certainly could have beaten them, we dominated Norwich for long periods and I feel that if that early Carroll shot would've gone in against Swansea then it might have changed the complexion of the whole game, (although of course you can argue that the reverse is also true, but I'm sure you see the point I'm trying to make!). What I'm trying to say is that we've had to replace three members of our midfield four. This is a fucking huge task for these players to take on. A fucking massive ask for all of them. And surely it's a mitigating factor that one of them, and quite patently the one who's struggling the most, is only 21 years old, whilst the rest of them are having passages of play where there's utter confusion and a series of mistimed and misplaced passes. What I'm arguing here is that not only is this sort of thing likely to happen but that's it to be expected. It's fucking bound to happen as they learn the incredibly harsh lessons that they need to learn to be able to play alongside each other in the white heat of the Premiership. I also feel that Carroll is the type of player who relies almost exclusively on the service he gets from the midfield , (and overlapping full backs obviously), so if the midfield are struggling for periods then it therefore makes sense that he will too. We simply haven't had the luxury of bedding in Adam or Henderson alongside Gerrard or Miereles, (and just imagine how different this season would've been if Gerrard would've been driving our midfield forward), and Kenny has obviously felt that it'd be better to blood Henderson than play Maxi, (who's always struggled to impose himself in the tougher fixtures), although after Saturdays performance I'd be surprised to see Henderson's name on the team sheet for a while as it was far worse than Flanagan's performance against Sunderland and he was dropped almost immediately. I agree that it's disappointing that we're dropping points, but at the same time I'd argue that our results haven't been 'extremely poor', as you've said. Everton's or West Brom's results have been piss-poor. Our's have been well above average, (in fact almost on a par with Chelsea with their 'shit-hot' new manager and not having had to reconfigure three quarters of the most important engine room of their entire team like we have). The point I'm trying to make is that for the first half of the season, (especially with Gerrard out and Miereles gone after handing in a transfer request), we were always likely to struggle for periods as our midfield learn about each other and how to play alongside each other in the white heat of battle. The other point I'm trying to make is that things are likely to improve as the season goes on. My guess is that Downing will gradually improve and become the fucking superb player he was after he settled down at Aston Villa and indeed at Middlesborough, Adam will benefit from having Gerrard alongside him to carry the burden of spraying passes around the field and closing down the opposition. I also feel that once the service improves to Carroll from our midfield, so will his goal return. But all this will only come about as long as we retain patience with the players who are struggling at the moment. Basically what I'm saying is, (and I'm not directing this at you Buffalo), is that there's no real need to fucking lose our minds just yet.

Some of the criticism on here is justified, (although much of it quite patently isn't). For me though, part of the the problem seems to be that we've tried to do too much too soon, with players who are simply too young to bear the brunt of this sort of pressure. We've got Henderson and Carroll. Two young lads who've come up gradually through the ranks of their hometown clubs with all the intrinsic support that that sort of situation provides, (familiarity, gradually earned respect, family support, fans treating them as 'one of their own' etc), and, to a degree, we've torn all that apart. They're literally strangers in a strange town now, seperated from the type of support that is vital to all young lads in a situation like theirs, (and not just footballers). Enrique seems to have settled a hell of a lot quicker than anyone else, but it's hardly surprising given his age and the fact that he's already done the solid psychological graft of uprooting to a foreign country, so coming here, (especially without the added burden of a massive price tag hanging over him in every game) has been a far easier step for him. Of course Suarez blows a fucking massive hole in this theory but his utter lack of self-doubt alloyed to his type of character means he's genuinely a one in a million kind of player, (as anyone who witnessed him having the fucking sheer temerity to waltz past half a dozen United players on his way to almost everyone's favourite goal of last season would tell you). I think Henderson and Carroll, (and Adam to a lesser degree) have had it tougher than Enrique in other ways too. Whilst Enrique has had to fit into a well established back four, who are all familiar with what's been asked of them by Dalglish and Clarke. Henderson, Adam and Downing, (with Lucas of course), are being asked to create a midfield quartet. This is completely fucking different. They're being asked to learn; when to cover ground, when to close down players, when to create openings and space whilst simultaneously gaining the type of understanding with each other, their defence and constantly havingto anticipate the runs of our forwards with only Lucas playing behind all three new lads. This is a massive task. Played out in the full glare of the footballing world and quite frankly, it's no fucking wonder they've struggled. With Gerrard injured and Miereles gone, (and Maxi struggling to impose himself on tough fixtures at the best of times), Dalglish seems to have decided that the only way they're going to progress through this fucking painful and ugly learning process is to give them games together. This seems about right to me. It's a shame that the lads simply haven't got the inner resources and experience to draw strength from at this fucking tough time for both of them. It's clearly apparent that a confident Carroll, aware of his team-mates and the space available, comfortable in the knowledge that his team-mates will find him on his runs, firing on all cylinders and willing and able to take the risks that will baffle opposing defenders will be an asset to any team. The same goes for Henderson, (who seems to be struggling to adapt as badly as any player in recent memory); he's lacking confidence, his decision making is shot to fucking pieces, he looks petrified to try anything out the ordinary as far as passing goes and his crippling self-consciousness is making him look like a dismal footballer. I genuinely don't think he is. He's a young man struggling to adapt in a fucking unforgiving environment without the resources he's had available to him all his young life. He needs time and confidence. Neither of these things are going to come any time fucking soon. Of course Carroll has suffered off the back of this, (along with Adam and to a lesser degree Downing), because he quite simply isn't the type of player who can beat a couple of defenders and score, (like Suarez), and therefore will always rely on the delivery of the ball from our midfield, so therefore it's easy to see why he's struggling as well. There is no easy answer. We need to take the missed chances, the mis-timed passes, the lack of any real understanding at times between the lads as part and parcel of the painful fucking learning curve that each and every one of these players simply have to go through to be part of a decent team. We are on the right track. The stats back that up and most fans at the game can see what's happening here. The type of football, (open, expansive and an utter fucking joy to watch at it's best and when it works), show that we're doing the right things but that it's going to get pretty fucking ugly at times before it starts going right more often than not. There are no big fucking problems here. The results have been better than average, possibly better than you could expect from this team at this stage in it's development. The signs are there that every member of the team is pulling in the right direction. Carroll lost his extra weight in the summer, Adam is logging the greatest distance covered on the pitch out of our midfielders, Downing has struggled for form early on at pretty much all of his clubs so it's no real surprise that it's the same here, Henderson does have a natural ability alloyed to a sense of professionalism that most footballers are sadly lacking these days and a few dropped points against teams whilst our players and squad come to terms with the drastic fucking surgery that was needed right across our midfield in the summer was to be expected. I've got faith in the squad we've got now. Mostly this season I've genuinely loved watching us play. The squads better than it was, the performances on the pitch have been infinitely better, the results have been better, our away form is miles fucking better than at any time in the last few fucking years and it's important that we don't lose our fucking minds now over a few dropped points. We're Liverpool FC and we're fucking better than that.

Sorry, I've fucked up a lengthy post. Ignore this.

Just got in from the game and haven't had a chance to read this whole thread yet so apologies if I'm just repeating what everyone else has already said but here goes.. Swansea were decent bordering on great. Some lovely passing moves. Their number 12 especially is a cracking fucking player; he only looks about 5 foot tall but he gave Enrique a real problem all game and even fucking skinned him on the odd occasion. Every one of their players seems comfortable on the ball, they're well organised, everyone knows their role, (and more importantly they all seem to know exactly where their team mates are going to be at any given time, so their passing into space was a hell of a lot better than ours). Their keeper wasn't tested until the last few minutes but even then he pulled off a couple of world class fucking saves at the death. The fans were noisy as fuck as well, if it hadn't have been for the 'you scouse bastards' chanting I'd have clapped 'em off at the end but I fucking detest that small time horseshit that the more classless away fans insist on doing. There's just no fucking need is there? Anyway, we were fucking hapless. Really fucking dismal. All the offensive players deserve a fucking bollocking for daring to serve that lukewarm fucking horseshit up to us paying fans. Static, unadventurous, lazy and unforgivable. Just fucking inept really. Henderson set his stall out straight away by not controlling a single fucking ball that came his way. On the odd occasion that he did manage to get his foot on the ball he literally just smacked it forward/sideways whether there was a Liverpool player in view or not. Genuinely. He just fucking lumped it and sort of hoped that maybe someone might get near it. Fucking disgraceful stuff. Adam was disappointing. He's simply not mobile enough to make any real impact in the centre of the park and there's a serious fucking question mark over his partnership with Lucas. Adam with someone like Mascherano would work, but instead we've sort of got a mediocre compromise where we've got two players who won't close the opposition down particularly successfully, one can pass; one sort of can't, one is kind of fast; one definitely fucking isn't. Meanwhile, Swansea are cutting us apart and dominating possession, (with little end product thankfully) for large portions of the game. Downing continued on his downward spiral and is currently looking a worse player than Riera ever did, (when he showed a modicum of interest, at least), and fuck me, I never thought I'd type that fucking sentence on here. Whilst once again, Kuyt, (who is fucking no-one's idea of a winger), is currently our best bet in the right-wing position and just how depressing is that after our fucking outlay this year? Right. That's enough of the moaning. Agger was fucking great, Skrtl was decent, Johnson's defensive work was fine, (but he was fucking clueless going forward). We're still on a decent-(ish) run. We're unbeaten in a good few games.. Blah, blah fucking blah.. A bit of fine tuning, ruthless team selections and one or two players upgraded at the first opportunity and Kenny's got a very decent team on his hands. For now though, we've got some big fucking problems. Just as well we've got a great fucking manager isn't it?

Just got back from the game and I'm half pissed so you may have to cut me a bit of slack here. I apologise in advance.. Shit result, better than average performance. But fuck me, only just. Absolutely frustrating as fuck this team aren't they? How many times did we hit the woodwork? I counted at least four. How many chances did the forwards lash a foot wide of the post? Again, I reckon at least four. This is quite patently fucking ridiculous. So we've dropped another two points. A pathetic, shameful fucking waste. The absolute burning disappointment completely outweighs any fucking plus points you can take from this game. It's beyond a fucking joke now. The approach play is there. The possession stats and chances created will probably bear this out but what fucking good is it if your forwards are pathologically incapable of hitting the fucking target? We simply can't afford to have quite so many players having below par games. Gerrard was as wasteful as I've ever seen him in possession, (although fuck knows it's virtually impossible to criticise the lad when you considers his circumstances), Adam simply needs to work fucking harder, I understand that conserving energy is an important part of any professional athletes itinerary but for Christ's sake take the fucking six or so steps that will give your team-mate another option to fucking pass to you lazy cunt and close the fucking opposing player down while your at it. We know who you're supposed to be fucking marking so I presume you fucking do too. Start doing it. And as sloppy as Kuyt was when receiving possession, I absolutely refuse to criticise the lad when you put in as solid a shift as I've seen from any player on the pitch in a very long time. He was there, he gave us options, he did what he does. Job fucking done. He'll never be my favourite player but neither will he get any criticism as long as he does his job as well as that. Downing? Jesus fucking Christ? Where do you start? A performance at right wing as fucking inept as any I've witnessed at Anfield in years. So poor on every conceivable level that a part of me feels that it's simply got to be some sort of fucking protest at being played on the right. It's fucking obvious that him and Enrique are a superb combination on the left but if Kenny wants you to play on the right to accommodate Bellamy then at least try to get the very basics of the game right. You're a fucking professional footballer. Try and fucking look like one when the ESPN cameras are in, alright? Last point now 'cos I'm fucking rambling and I'm sorry.. But referees. Just because Suarez will sometimes go down too easily you can't fucking extrapolate from that that every time he goes down it wasn't a foul. That's bullshit. I know it's his own fault and that he made Atkinson look a fool in the derby but it simply isn't fair to punish him by never awarding him another foul no matter how fucking blatant it is. We had this shit when N'gog dived against Brum two years ago and then we never got another fucking penalty for months afterwards. Sometimes, it'll be a foul on him, sometimes it won't. Use your fucking eyes and your brain. That's your fucking job. Don't get me wrong. This wasn't a shit performance. We hit the post too many times to call it that. Defensively we were mostly ok, the midfield were mostly ok, the forwards were insanely wasteful but mostly ok. Against an opposition as limited as that, (skill wise and ambition wise), we should be taking our chances, and a Dalglish team should expect the criticism that comes. It's simply not fucking good enough. Every player on that pitch should know that. We're Liverpool FC and a performance like that will never be fucking acceptable.

I've seen nothing in the papers about the coin throwing, just page after page on 'the rodwell incident.' Fuck all else. It's peculiar to say the least. At Anfield two seasons ago we had Kyrgiarkos sent off early on in the game, and while you can certainly argue that Soto deserved to go whereas Rodwell patently didn't, (we'll ignore the fact that Fellaini should have been off in the same move), the outcome was still the same. We were down to ten men. In a derby. At home. And we still won the fucking thing. So how's about that for setting a precedent? They patently lacked the patience, wit and guile to break us down that day, just as they patently lacked the discipline and tactical acumen to keep us out yesterday. Have I seen that mentioned in the papers today? Have I fuck. You simply can't have it both ways. Ten men v's eleven and we beat them; the other way round and guess what? We still fucking beat them. So what is going on? Admittedly, that Rodwell tackle doesn't look like a red card when you watch the replay. Shit, it doesn't even look like a yellow in the replay. But that's the whole point isn't it? It's only glaringly obvious when you watch the replay. I would imagine that when Rodwell flew in with that challenge, a fair proportion of the people watching thought, 'Shit the lad might be in trouble here', and then you watch the replay and think, 'Actually no. That's a fucking decent tackle.' But there's a few things at play here; 1) Atkinson's got previous for this sort of thing. It's something like seven sendings off in the last six months. So you know what? You'd better think before you throw a tackle in. 2) Rodwell's got his body in the way so Atkinson hasn't got a great view of his feet. So you know what? You really should think before you throw a tackle in. 3) And most importantly, who are you tackling? It's fucking Suarez. I'll say that again shall I? It's fucking Suarez. Any midfielder who's fucking brainless enough to throw a, (partially hidden), tackle in and make enough contact for him to go down right under the referee's nose, especially early doors in the white heat of a Merseyside derby, deserves everything they fucking get. No sympathy, no excuses and no second fucking chance. Complaining that you tried to tackle Suarez and you drew a foul against the lad is as fucking moronic as going the swimming baths and complaining you got fucking wet. It's just the way things are. If Rodwell didn't realise it then, he fucking does now. It was a derby game. That's pretty much meant the same thing for a good while now. It means that each side is going to have a handful of players who could have been sent off, maybe even one or two who should have been. Cahill could have had at least three yellows, Hibbert should have had a straight red, Adam could well have been stretchered off at least twice. But so what? Complaining that you have more/fewer players on the pitch than you should have, especially when history demonstrates that numerical advantage is almost meaningless is a fucking mugs game. But when there's almost nothing else you can take away from the game then I guess we should at least grant them that. Especially when you consider that our biggest disappointment is Kuyt hitting the post after Suarez took that corner under a hail of pound coins. How the fuck did that one not go in eh?

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That's how I see it too. It's actually a skilfully timed challenge that looks like a pretty bad one. But only at first glance. Rodwell goes in to the tackle with both feet off the ground but changes halfway through the tackle and withdraws his leg, catches the ball and doesn't really present Suarez with too much danger. Suarez feels the impact, does what any fucking footballer with half a brain would do and rolls with it. If Rodwell seriously thinks that Atkinson, in the white heat of a derby game, whilst simultaneously unsighted behind the tackle, is going to appreciate the refinement of a supremely well executed tackle that only appears to be a two footed challenge on the surface, then he deserves a red card for sheer fucking stupidity alone. And as far as all this bollocks about beating ourselves up over a fucking fantastic result because a decision went our way for once, (as opposed to Richardson staying on against Sunderland; which cost us a guaranteed three points in my opinion, that blatant fucking handball not being given at Stoke when we were well on top and were desperate for a breakthrough, etc, etc), then it simply doesn't fucking wash with me. As soon as United start giving points back to the F.A for every jammy fucking result they somehow grind out, (and they should start by giving the '99 European cup back to Bayern Fucking Munich obviously), then I'm going to worry about us getting the occasional break. Until then the score remains Everton - 0, Liverpool - 2. Wake up to that tomorrow morning you coin lobbing bitter cunts.

Right, might as well establish my freak credentials here.. I pay my £2 a month because I just fucking love this place. Simple as that really. The jokes, the insight, the level of debate, the knobheads getting their arses handed to them on a plate, the essays where posters pour their thoughts out and you get the odd nugget that really strikes a chord inside yourself that you'd never even considered before; at it's best this place is a godless iconoclastic free for all and a couple of quid a month for a site as good as this, with the quality of posting and it's understanding and perception and judgement, (and fucking brilliant tags, lets not forget the fucking brilliant tags), then I can't really justify not paying it to be honest. Sure, there's problems. Every six months there seems to be a handful of over-excited, insight-free bellends who clog up the boards for a few weeks. Some of the rows on here go on way too fucking long, when the respective posters have stated their cases comprehensively and it's just tedious diminishing returns after that. And I'd also agree that we're sometimes not as welcoming to new posters as we could be, (although that's more to do with earning your stripes by not acting like a fucking prick early on and it does take a while to establish yourself on here). Which reminds me, I really should rep xerxes because his stuff on the new stadium has been really fascinating and is precisely the sort of reason I log in here so regularly.. But that RAWK comparison is utterly redundant in my opinion. Whereas that place will remove your comments and ban you if you're not seen to be very publically treading the party line; in this place you live and die by the strength of your argument and that's exactly how it should be. If you can articulate a strong well reasoned case for your opinion, if it'll hold up to the scrutiny of the other posters who will try to knock it down and destroy it, if it will hold up to the type of barrage that it'll get in a place like this; then your argument will live to fight on to tomorrow. Where exactly the same thing will happen.. So this place isn't perfect. It can be unfair, it can be boring, it'll frustrate the fuck out of you at times but as long as you've got a, (reasonably), open mind and don't always react with a venomous fury every time your opinion is challenged then it'll also give you access to some of the most insightful and comprehensive opinion pieces on Liverpool Football Club on the web and I really enjoy logging in here and I'm happy to help fund it when I can afford to.

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Mumford and Sons. Posh, smug, unspeakably privileged, privately educated chancers dressed like the fucking Wurzels. The bass playing cunt went to the same private school as George fucking Osbourne and people still buy their albums.? I mean, really, what the fuck.? They might as well call their next album, 'Kings Of All You Fucking Plebs', and be done with it. "And here's one from our new album. It's called, 'Rah, rah, rah, Mummy's got a Porsche. It's not an automatic."

I was stuck in the corner of the main stand and haven't watched the highlights yet but I thought we played a decent enough game to be honest. Suarez was fucking fantastic and worth the forty quid price of the ticket alone. Even though it wasn't one of his best games, he's still head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch as far as that deadly firebrand creativity goes. He can pass, his technical skill is fucking sublime, (his passing range with the outside of his right foot is fucking staggering. Twice yesterday he laid pinpoint passes across the pitch with that technique), and he's a fucking joy to have on the pitch. I'm not sure I agree with this attitude that because he's the best player on the pitch, (and that includes any opposition player thus far), he's somehow put us in a false position. Every team has a player like that and we should take it easy on beating ourselves up about it. Every team has a player or two who constitute the very fucking heartbeat of the team and he's ours and I fucking love him for it but I don't think we're a relegation side without him. Dalglish has made sure of that. Bellamy, Downing and Gerrard, (and an in-form Dirk Kuyt), are still a fluid, potent attacking force wether Suarez is there or not so I'm not massively concerned. Adam is still improving. His range of passing is great but I'm a bit surprised with how many don't quite come off. His completion rate isn't quite as high as I presumed it would be but I still think that as this team continues to gel he'll be a real asset and therein lies the key for me. We are a team getting to know itself; slowly gathering momentum and that ability to simply 'know' where our team-mates are at any given time. Now that the adrenaline from the start of the season is fading you can sense us starting the difficult task of finding our identity as a functioning unit. It's not going to be easy but I feel there's plenty of evidence that it is going well. We've had one total collapse at Spurs. Outside of that we've had a very solid start. Very solid. Poor finishing at a decent Stoke side cost us three points, we went off the boil for the last half hour against Sunderland; apart from that we've been nothing short of great in my opinion. Yesterday we battled, some things didn't quite come off, a couple of players were below par but mostly we were fucking fine. Carroll put a shift in, Suarez was magical, Gerrard continued his rehabilitation, Enrique was first class and Lucas is continuing his slow evolution into a very decent player. Three points in the bag, a mostly fine performance, plenty of encouraging signs and another good day at the office for Kenny and the team, (and isn't it great to be seeing loads of kids in the crowd at Anfield these days?); this was a good weekend. The kind that only twelve months ago we would've fucking killed for.

Great post by Stella there. It's a genuine fucking joy logging in to this place sometimes..

If we win tonight then I'd like to say that I think Dalglish is building a great team and I never doubted that the Spurs result was anything but an abberation on the upwards curve of improvement that the entire club has shown since we got the great man back; But if we lose then I want the useless cunt sacked. Immediately. Rafa re-instated. Henderson to be fucking shot and Carroll to be locked in the basement of the Adelphi with Purple Aki after he's just injected liquid Viagra in to the underside of his huge black cock. Because this is the internet. And I am a shithead.