Red Sun Rising

Jeez, things on Merseyside really are bad. Woman at home (with or without her kids, doesn't seem clear) and her door gets kicked in and the house turned over and people say it's question of poor security!? Amazing the shit people will take as acceptable.

Very very pleased with that. Back in the day of Sir Bob, it would have been go out there, keep the ball, shut the crowd up and we’ll take a 1-0 on the counter attack thank you very much. Here we rip them apart in 11 minutes and still keep at them. Bollix to the opposition were shit brigade. We made them look shit, only guy keeping them in it was the referee. Big hand to Harry Kewell (& Rafa for having more patience with him than most of us on here). A mention too for JAR; nothing spectacular, just safe & solid, did his job and did it well. When Torres learns to shoot with his left foot, he’ll be up there with the best in the world! All the same, it’s such a thrill to have a player in our team capable of scoring goals like that after such a long time without. I do believe I even saw Rafa hug Gerrard at the end. Really hope we do the Mancs on Sunday ‘cos I like coming on here after a game.

Kelly Dalglish The Setanta presenter on her embarrassing Dad, why she's never dated footballers, and whether her mother can run faster than Janet Hansen Paolo Bandini Friday December 7, 2007 Guardian Unlimited Not a woman who keeps cheese in her jacket pockets Hi Kelly, how are you? Great thanks, Small Talk. I'm just driving up to Anfield, so I've got lots of time on my hands... First question: do you think it was fair of someone called Kenny to name their daughter Kelly? [Laughs] I know! To be honest, I don't think my dad had much say, it was all down to mum. But at the same time I was born the chairman of Celtic was a guy called Mr Kelly, so that was a little inappropriate! Then again, Emlyn Hughes named his kids Emma Lynn and Emlyn, so I got off lightly. So Kenny wasn't being vain? Not in this case, but I've got two sisters and one brother, and Paul's the only one who got a middle name, and that's Kenneth! How did you get to be the famous daughter? [Laughs] I don't know... my youngest sister is only 19, so she's got a while yet ... Did that BT ad help? God, that advert was awful. I was absolutely mortified. My friends at university took the mickey relentlessly for about two years. Originally my mum was meant to do it, but she kept saying: "I'm too embarrassed, I can't do it", and I just kept telling her to get on with it. She phoned me up about three days later and said: "You know that advert", and I said: "Oh great, you've decided to do it", and she said: "No, I've put you forward for it, since you're so bloody keen." What's the most embarrassing thing your dad's ever done in your presence? He's constantly embarrassing! [laughs] Things like trying to pick me up from discos when I was young by standing around the corner waiting. We came back from a school trip to France when I was about 11, and my mum and dad arrived an hour before the coach came, and stood on the pavement in front of all the other parents, waving at me as though I had been on a trek to the North Pole. All the other parents were just much more normal. Ever been on a date with a footballer? [Firmly] Oh no. No, no, no. Would your parents have hated it? I don't think they would have been hugely pleased, but I don't have the temperament for it. Especially footballers now, I couldn't be doing with all those girls throwing themselves at them. Not that my fiancé doesn't have girls throwing themselves at him! I'd better not say that! Too late, Kelly ... Kenny wasn't the super-protective type then? He was, but I don't think he ever really had huge cause to be - I didn't have wildly unsuitable boyfriends. He did once, oh God, I once went out with a guy who told my dad he liked basketball, to which my dad replied: "Are you a Mormon?" He was clearly far too stressed about the fact that some bloke wanted to take his daughter out to make any kind of sensible conversation. Small Talk was looking on IMDB, and your STARmeter is down by 33% in the last week. Why that might be? I've got no idea. I can't imagine it was very high to start with. Would you consider some sort of dancing-based reality TV show to boost your rating? [Laughs heartily] I don't think it would be safe, I'd probably injure myself. Plus I'd be the sort of Kate Garraway, Fiona Phillips-type, and if you're gonna be the token klutz then you have to be on GMTV where everybody loves you so they vote for you. You need to be either really good, or really popular, and I don't think I'd be either ... Bless! What about going to the jungle and eating snakes? I'd definitely never, ever, ever, ever go to the jungle. I'm scared of everything. I would be a complete hysterical freak. What are you most scared of? Heights, spiders, snakes, creepy-crawlies, everything ... bugs. I'm slightly claustrophobic. I watch all of the tasks, and just think: "no". The one I always thought I could do best was eating the weird food, but they've started to put more alive stuff in, so I couldn't do that. If it was dead I could eat it, but not alive, urgh! Peter Crouch or Dirk Kuyt? At what?! If you're going to play a long ball then you want Peter Crouch, but if you're going to play it to feet you want Kuyt. Cop out. What's you favourite kind of biscuit? I like plain chocolate digestives, not milk - they're too sweet. Oh, and ginger nuts. I've not got a very sweet tooth, I'm more of a nut person. Your father told us he's a huge fan of the digestives ... [Quickly] He likes them sandwiched together with the chocolate in the middle ... He also, bizarrely, claimed to put butter on them ... Yes, that's right. Sometimes it's butter, sometimes a little jam as well. Cheese or chocolate [Decisively] Cheese. Definitely. Any kind of. How much does a pint of milk cost? About 50p? Depends where you buy it from, or whether it's organic, or whether it's produced by cows that have been massaged and had classical music played to them. Small Talk has always imagined that those cows that get massaged and fed lager would be a good kind of animal to come back as in another life... You'd like to come back as a wagyu cow? Is it wagyu, or waygoo? That would be quite nice - or a cat! Is that what you'd come back as? Why not? I could sleep all day, and take the mickey out of my owner. I prefer dogs to cats but I'd rather be a cat. You wouldn't prefer dogs if you were a cat, Kelly. Anyway, in This Is Spinal Tap, Nigel Tufnell claims that Alan Hansen's wife can run faster than Kenny Dalglish's wife - your mother! Is this true? Depends on how much is knocked off the price of the shoe they're running in! No, I reckon they'd both fall off their stilettos before the end of the race. But did you never... Did we never race our mothers? No [fits of giggles]. Maybe I should start a war and say: "I'm really offended and my mum can run much faster than Janet". This can be your revenge for her putting you in that BT advert ... My mum can run an 11-second 100m. What's the strangest request you've had from a fan? Well there used to be a guy who wrote to Sky, asking everybody if they smoked, and if so, what brand? We never replied. What would you put in Room 101? God, there's so many things. People who eat with their mouth open, that makes me sick. And really loud music at football stadiums - like at the end of a cup final when they make it so loud you hardly hear the fans singing. Which is your favourite pasta shape? [Without hesitation] Linguini. You couldn't have been more ready for that question. I know, it's terrible. [More giggling] I always buy linguini because I think it's more interesting than spaghetti, but it's actually not very different. What do you have in your pockets right now? I don't have pockets! In my jacket pocket I have some keys... [Mishearing] Some cheese?! Yes... No, keys, not cheese! [Laughing] Don't say I've got cheese in my pockets! You might have had some cheese ... Maybe - Cheesy strings. You never know when you're going to need a little snack ... Exactly. What was the last CD you bought? I just bought the audio CD of Jane Eyre for this trip. Does that make me sound intelligent or thick? I get so sleepy if I listen to music all the way up. And the radio stations just repeat themselves so by the time you've done four hours it's kind of boring. So are you a classics buff? No, I'll read absolutely anything - from epics, to crappy, Georgette Heyer regency romances ... or if something's been nominated for a Booker prize, then I've usually got it somewhere. If you were stuck on a desert island, which book would you want with you? Everyone says the complete works of Shakespeare, but I think that's dull. Plus they're plays. But it would have to be the complete works of somebody. Christopher Brookmyre - he's hilarious. What luxury item would you take? My iPod. You wouldn't be able to charge it after the first play though... I'd get a little crab to go on one of those treadmills to generate electricity like in the Carling adverts. And then eat him? I would definitely eat him. I like a bit of crab. But then who would make the electricity? It's a dilemma, all right. Finally Kelly, can you tell us a joke? OK, so this vampire bat goes back into the cave, and his face is covered in blood, and all the other vampire bats are really, really jealous. So they're asking: "where did you get that from, where have you been?" And he says, "come, I'll show you all my secrets", and they fly out and they go over the dark forest, and he says: "You see that big oak tree over there?" The vampire bats say: "yes", and he says: "Well I didn't." Honk! Thanks very much for your time Kelly, it's been highly diverting. Thanks Small Talk, bye! Kelly Dalglish is a presenter on Setanta Sports's new rolling news service Setanta Sports News. For more information visit http://www.setanta.com.

That's enough. Mike Tyson as Robbie Fowler comparisons!? To the GF with you all,　shameful.

What I liked was the look on his face when Torres scored the 2nd, Harry grinning from ear to ear in a red shirt is something we haven't seen enough of. If he stays fit he'll be a threat, no question.

they might not use the word 'excuse', parhaps they'd say 'reason'. I'm a big Rafa fan but if it was my mortgage on the line I'd be a bit miffed so far this season.

Yikes, consider me told!

Can't find it right now but I read somewhere today that the minimum age for player registration in Europe is 18, except England , where it is 16, hence the English clubs sucking up the teenage talent ahead of their continental competition. Not sure if that is true but it would suggest that a 16 year English kid has a lot more competition for a place at an English club than a 16 year old Spanish kid at a Spanish club.

Anyone else sick of the England threads?

I'm not sure I give a toss what the media do or don't say. That being said, I find some posters on here verge on the paranoid with regard to the media. We haven't won the title in donkey's years, the obvious stories right now, if you are a hack are; 1) Arse - sexy football, unbeatable 2) Man USA - best squad ever 3) LFC - rotation 4) Chavs -remember when they had a manager who was good copy I don't read tabloids but the broad sheets, Andy Hunter, Oliver Kay, Henry Winter and a few others give us credit were it's due and get puzzled when we are puzzling. If we have to challenge for/win the title to get more media respect then so be it. Deep down I know that Rafa and the team need to do that to truly earn mine. Pretty sure they know that too and pretty sure they are there or there abouts.

They do! A couple of years back the Fuji Rock Festival (kinda Japanese Glastonbury) sold out for the first time. Me & my mates show up with our tickets and there's a two guys from Liverpool offering us face value plus 10% to take them of our hands. Thanx but no thanx and all that (we'd just travelled 4 hours for a 3 day festival, hotel booked etc etc - who in their right mind is going to turn round and go home for 50 quid or so pocket money!?). Anyways, over the 3 days these two scallies kept appearing, liked to have a beer and talk your leg off. Seems they made their bread & butter from match day tickets at Anfield and in the Summer did the festivals, Wimbledon & what not. They had the hump cos they'd brought along a couple of bin bags filled with non-kosher tour shirts and the like like - not realizing that the Japanese think scalpers (touts) are wannabe Yakuza low life and your average Japanese wouldn't be seen dead in knock of anything. Happy to report they figured they were down about 2,000 quid for the whole trip, not that they seemed that bothered.

Not sure where we would stand with a work permit with only one cap in a friendly. I guess we'd be looking to jump through the promising yougster loophole. I still have a hunch Rafa will go back to Real for Heinz, wouldn't surprise me if we hadn't set that up when the initial move went tits up. Worthwhile, if only for the effect it would have on Slur's blood pressure!

Benítez ready to battle with Ferguson for £10m Garay Andy Hunter Wednesday November 14, 2007 The Guardian Rafael Benítez is considering a January move for the Racing Santander defender Ezequiel Garay although, in echoes of his thwarted efforts to sign Gabriel Heinze, the Liverpool manager's attempt to add an Argentinian to his defence may be complicated by Manchester United. The Liverpool manager has been searching for a central defender who can also operate at full-back since Heinze was prevented from making the journey from Old Trafford to Anfield by a Premier League arbitration panel in August. He has his sights on the £10m-rated Garay, who was linked with United this year, and is contemplating meeting Santander's asking price when the transfer window reopens. Garay, who turned 21 last month, joined the Spanish club from Newell's Old Boys two years ago and won his first - and so far only - cap for Argentina in a friendly against Norway in August. A centre-half who can also perform at right-back, Garay would initially provide much-needed cover for a Liverpool defence which has wavered at times without the injured Daniel Agger. Whether Benítez will have funds for Garay and additional signings may depend on the club progressing in the Champions League. Benítez has indicated he may have to sell to buy if the club's US owners concentrate funds on loan repayments for a new £400m stadium.

Bugger... "Liverpool defender John Arne Riise has insisted he wants to stay at Anfield despite being linked with a move to Aston Villa". (various)

6 years loyal service ensures a slagging, gee, he must be thrilled. Vis a vis loyalty & finances - if anyone was in need of an agent to tout him around to the Man Cities of the world for a hefty sign on fee it's JAR...won't happen though cos he's more of a red than some on here.

Only 9 posts up there, concentrate, Sanchez is the cunt, Murphy hasn't figured yet!

First off, thought the thread title was equal to the 'Why do you hate Gerrard?' thread title i.e. attention seeking tabloidesque, puerile is a good word too! Don't have the will to start all over again, so here's one I prepeared earlier... I've always had a soft spot for Riise. He's been here 6 years and still gives it his all every game. Some of the stick he gets seems a little unfair. If he gets played left midfield he's slagged for not being a winger, yet no one seems to give him credit for playing there without complaint in the first place (set aside the fact that manager's have had the confidence to play him there anyway). Scores goals too, some of them when we've really needed them. 31 in 319 games ain't bad. By way of a comparison, consider Steve Finnan. Generally the consensus is the sun shines out of Finnan's arse, and I would agree that as a right back he's been superbly consistent, no argument. But when we are short at right midfield no one suggests he play there and with 1 goal in 198 games he's not exactly pulling up trees. Not saying Riise is the best player for the position in the world but then again LFC isn't Real Madrid's galacticos either. The guy deserves more respect than he gets on here.

I've always had a soft spot for Riise. He's been here 6 years and still gives it his all every game. Some of the stick he gets seems a little unfair. If he gets played left midfield he's slagged for not being a winger, yet no one seems to give him credit for playing there without complaint in the first place (set aside the fact that manager's have had the confidence to play him there anyway). Scores goals too, some of them when we've really needed them. 31 in 319 games ain't bad. By way of a comparison, consider Steve Finnan. Generally the consensus is the sun shines out of Finnan's arse, and I would agree that as a left back he's been superbly consistent, no argument. But when we are short at right midfield no one suggests he play there and with 1 goal in 198 games he's not exactly pulling up trees. Not saying Riise is the best player for the position in the world but then again LFC isn't Real Madrid's galacticos either. The guy deserves more respect than he gets on here.

Doesn't Roman Money bags have a stake in an Isreali outfit and a Russian team (and maybe pays the national coach of Russia's wages?)?

Bollocks - fact!

Just skimmed the 4 pages or so. Looks like no one on here hates him, which is as it should be. I hate the thread title though, you should have gone with 'just wondering why people seem to dislike Gerrard as a person?' not as eye catching perhaps but it was the question you asked.

1. Hyypia 2. Torres 3. Rafa

Yep. 4 changes from the previous game, plus all 3 subs used - 18 players in two games. Changes made as usual but we win 8-0 rather than draw 0-0 and the argument is 'I told you so...' - Doesn't stack up for me.