Randy Marsh

Despise Chelsea but made up for Rafa on a personal level. Should still be our manager now.

This could be their Hodgson moment. Astonished by this. Always said Ferguson would retire out the blue so I'm not surprised in the manner in which this has player out so quickly. However, I never in a million years believed they would punt for Moyes, a manager so totally unproven at the highest level of football and in Europe. I'm fucking gobsmacked. We have seen how one bad appointment can see a club and years worth of success unravel so quickly.

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When was the last time we failed to beat one of Manchester Utd, Everton, Chelsea or Arsenal in a season?

I'm caught between two polar opinions with Rodgers. On one side there is the idea that he is building something, that good foundations are being laid for the future and only a few tweaks rather than wholesale changes are needed to really see us challenge the top 4 again. On the other there is the opinion that he is massively out of his depth. That the season has been a massive failure, both in the league and in the cups. I think you could find plenty of reasons to argue for any of these points. I'd say I probably sit somewhere in between, although its is probably blind hope and desperation rather than any real belief which leads me towards backing him for another 12months and seeing where that takes us. I've just been looking and our record against the top 10 this season is absolutely appalling. 3 wins in 18 all season, those coming against West Ham, Spurs at home and a Swansea team who'd already travelled over to Wembley for the cup final. No matter how anyone wants to dress it up, no matter what bullshit spin Brendan or the club want to put on it, that is a disgraceful return for any Liverpool team and manager. I don't care if we've won the pass completion cup, I don't care how we've had more shots than the rest of world football combined. That record is unacceptable. Our cup performance too was disgracefull. Knocked out at home to Seansea in the LC, beaten by League 1 Oldham in the FA, turned over by a poor Zenit over two legs in Europe. We've played a minimal number of fixtures this season, one game a week now for a few months yet we are still turning out laboured dismal performances every other week like the shite served up yesterday. Not once have we remotely looked like competing for Europa League football qualification never mind Champions League. The one success story from the season is Luis Suarez. Who would blame him if he moved on this summer? And what state would we be in if he did? Would you trust Brendan to spend the money? Coutinho looks an inspired piece of business. Sturridge on his day is a massive asset, yet still doubts about his attitude and consistency remain. But 15m Joe Allen has been a huge disappointment, and even when fit I fail to see how he will fit in to our team. Borini? I want to give the lad the benefit of the doubt but if I'm honest I think he has £2m return to Italy next summer written all over him. Assaidi has looked good when given a chance but hasn't had a look in. And the talk of paying £12m for Ashley Williams, another ex Rodgers player with no experience at the top level of football and pushing 30, really sets the alarm bells ringing for me. It's fair to say the jury is still out. I read people saying we need investment in the squad. They're correct, but FSG have given Rodgers and Dalglish considerable funds and what real returns have we seen? I also think his and the club's stance on the prospect of qualifying for Europe via the Fair Play league is an absolute disgrace. Liverpool Football Club should NEVER turn down European Football no matter what avenue we may have to travel down to reach it. The fact that we could be doing so for the sake of a money spinning friendly in Melbourne in my opinion goes against everything this club was supposedly built on. His comments last week on the issue where for me disgraceful. At risk of opening that can of worms again, there is no way Rafa would have stood for the club putting commercial reasons ahead of European football. I know a lot of match going reds who want shut of him. They see another 7th place finish as further evidence that we are accepting mediocrity, no matter how its dressed up. I find it hard to argue against that really. Personally speaking, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He has called it a season of transition. I don't think we can afford to sack another manager, rip it up and start all over again. I also don't see any proven manager worth their salt touching us with a barge pole in our current state. I actually like him as a man, I think he is sincere and I think he is trying to do his best for us. But next season there can be absolutely no excuses whatsoever. He has had money and will have more this summer. Anything below Championd League qualification next season has to be regarded as failure, or else we may as well kiss goodbye to any chances of success and re-establishing ourself as a competitive force any time over the next decade.

Horrific this, absolutely horrific.

Good riddance, hope the witch rots in hell.

The tide seems to be turning. Even Bluto is mildly hammering him in the Mail today. They seem surprised that he sits motionless and clueless on the bench when his team are faltering. They seem shocked that he has become prickly in the media now the pressure has moved up a notch. His Liverpool tenure really was a huge southern press blind spot, because no one who watched him for that horrific 6months at Anfield is even remotely surprised by the fact his England side have only beaten Moldova and San Marino in qualifying.

Effectively blaming us for them not having a buyer. We won't sit and talk about a ground share which is putting off potential owners. Couldn't make it up. If in doubt blame the redshite.

Everton PR machine in full spin on Talksport now. Collymore interviewed someone at the club today. Middle East consortium interested apparently. They've sent out their season ticket renewal letters today...

Neville has just poured a tanker load of fuel on the fire with today's quote. He has said that top 10 finishes are a "fantastic achievement" for Everton. Oh dear Phil...

@FourthOfficial_: Everton have cancelled tonight’s planned meet and greet for the supporters with @fellainiM @Everton: @fourthofficial_ We haven't cancelled it. @FourthOfficial_: @Everton see you boys and Fellaini tonight at 5pm then, we'll all kiss and make up over a brew x @Everton: Due to unforeseen circumstances, this afternoon’s signing session with Marouane Fellaini at Everton Two has been postponed. @fellainiM: Sorry to the Everton fans, I cannot make the signing session this afternoon. Will do another one soon. Felly Great to see the blueshite imploding and the comedy moments that come with it. I always enjoyed their Comedy Thursdays series on Channel 5 in which they regularly had their arses handed to them by Eastern block European juggernauts like Rapid Bucharest and Metalist Kharkiv.

Obviously miss Pepe but nothing can be done about that. I'd personally have liked to see Henderson start because his energy could be important in a game like today, but maybe Brendan sees him as a useful sub to bring on towards the end when both teams tire.

40/1 for Suarez is absolutely scandalous and proves that this is probably a done deal already.

A little one perhaps!

Meltdown on twitter and on the NSNO forum I just had a quick browse through then. Few wives cowering in their locked bathrooms on County Road this evening.

I think he will be here another season atleast Rob, but it wouldn't at all surprise me if he did move on.

Not doubting you MB but do you have a link to any of the reports? It wouldn't surprise me, he looked totally dejected and nobody put more in to that match than him.

And with regards to selling him. If this club has any ambition to be great again then he doesn't have a price. The effect he has on us as a team, on his team mates around him, to me makes him unsellable. It's much easier to sign the players we need with Luis Suarez at the club. The statement we make by selling him would be catastrophic. We need to be signing more like him, not selling our only genuine world class player.

Phenomenal last night. So much passion and heart, ran himself in to the ground, never say die winners attitude that the club needs to bottle up if we are ever going to reach the heights again. He was broken at the final whistle and no one out there did more than him to drag us through that tie. Gutted for the lad, I'm sure he would have loved a final back in his old stadium in Amsterdam.

I'm honestly not arsed by what he says. Ye he is a bit wishy washy, talks a bit of overly romantic shite from time to time. The fact is that you can say what the fuck you want when you're managing a winning team. Take many of Shanks' quotes. They'd have been hammered in this day and age if he wasnt a serial Champions League winning manager. Ill judge my manage by what I see on the pitch rather than what I see in a press conference. It's going to be a long road but I do think we are moving forward. Our own individual errors have cost us big time. As an attacking unit by and large we have been great. He deserves the opportunities to iron out the defensive issues because once that is sorted and a balance is found there isn't going to be a hell of a lot wrong with us. It's going to take time to find that balance, it took Rafa time, it took Houllier time.

Sadly my 3-1 opening post prediction was spot on. Only just got in so can't be arsed reading through because its probably all be said before. Ill keep it simple. We can over analyse everything, tactical decisions, substitutions, whatever. The simple fact is if we defend correctly and don't gift the opposition a goal on an almost weekly basis by thoroughly avoidable errors then we'd have easily qualified from this tie and probably been atleast 10points better off in the league. Scoring goals isn't our problem. Defending against them is. Can't fault effort and commitment tonight, we gave it the best we had with the fairly limited options we had. But we are our own worst enemy and until that changes we need to get used to being at the level we are now. Oh, and Luis Suarez is fucking unbelievable and it's going to take some almighty persuasion to keep the lad here another season. If he goes we can kiss goodbye to any hopes of progression in the coming seasons. Truly world class player.

Standard rumoured team Pepe Johnson. Carra. Agger. Enrique Gerrard. Lucas. Allen Henderson. Suarez. Downing

No high horse here mate. He was praising the supporters. It's blindingly obvious to see that. Managers are interviewed and asked questions which they have to answer on the spot. Every statement or comment they make isn't carefully worded by a PR advisor. Just because he hasn't worded it 100% perfectly for some people he gets stick for it, despite the fact he is lauding us the supporters as being worthy of a goal that night in 2005. It's the highest praise he can give. Maybe I'm naive or it's passed over my head but I really don't see what on earth he has said to provoke such disgust from people, let alone to use it as further evidence that he isn't up to the job. It's fucking crazy.

So basically he has effectively come out and said "The Liverpool support was that good they were worth a goal to their team that night", and people have taken issue with that. And those comments are further evidence that he isn't the right man for us? Get a fucking grip San Don.