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A good point well made.

I'd leave Enrique in. Play Maxi instead of Bellamy, as I assume Bellamy needs the rest for the league run in and the CC final. No complacency obviously but it would be nice to beat these relatively easily and move on for now.

Everyone agrees that football is sick and in a state of disrepair. The problem is that a lot of people have misdiagnosed the illness. They blame the likes of the Suarez debacle for the state it is in and they can feel nice and proud of saying this and doing their bit for racism. Whereas the real culprits are the media, the social networkers, Sky, the FA, corrupt referees, Fergie, Jason fucking Roberts, and co. I am depressed with the abuse I receive daily via text and e-mail about the club and Suarez and Kenny. A simple cultural misunderstanding that is being hyped up by all our detractors as a fucking global catostrophe, and who would have thought we had so many detractors. I really wouldn't blame Suarez and Kenny for doing one in the summer. I really hope they don't but the two have been stitched up rightly by a combination of you know who. The only thing that makes me see any light at the end of the tunnel for the club is my belief/hope in karma. Because if there is any justice in this world then a lot of good things will happen for us in the near future and a lot of bad things will happen for that shower down the road.

Shithouse thread. Keep of course. Anyone saying sell should fuck off to Salford.

Wait til you hear the latest. Apparently the HT brawl was kicked off by somebody spitting at De Gea. No prizes for guessing who the #1 suspect is. Fucking laughable this whole pile of shit.

Indeed. A pity it wasn't a royal rumble at the weekend as I reckon we'd have the measure of them no problem.

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Now this I would pay to watch. Agger would absolutely pummel the braindead, moronic washed up cunt. Finish it off with a Stone Cold Stunner, then open a cold one off his head.

A pointless exercise. We all know what an odious steaming turd he is. Why waste any precious time digging up shit like this. He's a cancer, a cunt and a despicable human being.

Chin up Dave!! The good will out...

In the corner of page 9 of the paper today......but back page of every paper when it happened at Anfield. A Manchester United fan has been banned from football matches for three years for shouting racist abuse at a Stoke City player during a match. Howard Hobson of Weaver Walk, Openshaw, Manchester, was at Old Trafford for the game against Stoke on 31 January. Trafford Magistrates Court heard he directed comments to Kenwyne Jones, a player who originates from Trinidad.

It is rumoured that some drunken Irish man will call him a negro seven times but nobody in the vicinity will be able to confirm.

This is sort of going back over old ground again but I found the following article interesting, taken from an Irish broadsheet a few weeks ago: When is a remark racist? When spoken by a foreigner The fight against racism in football has not been helped by the savaging of Suarez, Dalglish and Liverpool, writes DAVID ADAMS ‘IS CALLING someone a ‘black c***’ racist? Spoke to a black player today who said racism is words like c**n, n-word, w**, etc. Don’t know.” This crass query was posted on Twitter less than two months ago. It refers to what the England and Chelsea football captain, John Terry, has admitted calling QPR’s Anton Ferdinand during a premiership game last October. Terry will appear in court next month, charged with a racially motivated public order offence. He insists that his remarks were taken out of context, and must be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. The tweeter, however, appears to suggest that Terry’s outburst might not be racist at all, regardless of context. Worryingly, the tweet was posted by the chief sports writer of the Daily Mirror, Oliver Holt (who has authored two books on Terry, under the pen names, Ollie and Oliver Derbyshire). Strange that a journalist, of all people, is not entirely clear on what constitutes racism. Stranger still that Holt and his newspaper, along with most of the rest of the British media, have of late been adopting what they imagine to be a high-minded, zero-tolerance approach to this issue. They have been relentless in condemning Liverpool’s Uruguayan player, Luis Suarez, after he was found guilty by the English FA of “racially abusing” the Manchester United footballer Patrice Evra, by referring to him as “negro”. Aside from the fact that Evra’s South American team mates at Manchester United also call him Negro, I would have thought this word to be far less offensive than what Terry has admitted shouting at Ferdinand. Increasingly, the media has also been savaging Liverpool and its manager, Kenny Dalglish, for continuing to insist that Suarez is innocent. Oliver Holt went so far as to suggest in a column last Saturday that their support for Suarez makes Dalglish and Liverpool partially culpable for a racist insult directed at a young Oldham player at Anfield the previous night. Self-evidently, Holt et al believe that Suarez and Liverpool have no right to question an FA ruling. This is another strange position for journalists to adopt. They, of all people, should realise that even a proper court can get it wrong, never mind the FA’s “kangaroo court”, as Everton manager David Moyes recently described it. The FA secures a conviction rate of 99.5 per cent, as Irish sports lawyer (and Liverpool fan) Stuart Gilhooley has pointed out. An unnamed sports lawyer has told the BBC that the FA acts as “police, judge and jury all rolled into one”. No wonder Suarez, his club and its supporters are up in arms. Undeterred, the British media is presenting the FA’s handling of the Suarez affair as a shining example of best practice, while doing all it can to shift attention away from the finer details and on to the broader issue of racism. This involves making pantomime villains of Suarez, Dalglish and Liverpool. In truth, even before the case was heard, the bulk of the media had made plain its position. Suarez was never afforded the same innocent-until-proven-guilty treatment that John Terry has (rightly) enjoyed. From the moment Evra’s complaint emerged, hardly a day passed without it being highlighted. Yet within days of John Terry being charged, sportswriters and football commentators were commending the Chelsea captain for a “courageous performance”, “despite the pressures he is playing under”. Suarez was fined €48,500 and banned for eight games by the FA. Somewhat conveniently, Terry was reported to the police by “a member of the public” and shuffled off to a criminal court where the evidential threshold for conviction is massively higher than that of the FA, and the maximum possible penalty decidedly lower (€2,500). I am not a disinterested observer, having supported Liverpool for more than 40 years. But then, who is? (Lord) Herman Ouseley and Piara Powar, two of the most vocal and widely quoted critics of Suarez, Dalglish and Liverpool, and strident supporters of the FA’s ruling, are both invariably described by the media only as anti-racism campaigners. That the first is also a member of the FA and on the board of the Manchester United Foundation (Evra’s club), and the second is a director of the Chelsea Foundation (Terry’s club), is never mentioned. Why has a basic tenet of good journalistic practice, highlighting possible conflicts of interest, been dispensed with? Ultimately, the FA has scored some imaginary political point against Fifa’s Sepp Blatter; anti-racism campaigners have had their (extremely important) issue raised to stratospheric heights; and the British media has been able to flaunt its supposed anti-racist credentials. That the reputation of a “Johnny Foreigner” has been destroyed in the process, and a great football club and its manager tarnished, is unfortunate. But at least it wasn’t an England captain.

Shithouse comment.

Great stuff Dave, as per usual. Any chance you could copy and paste your bits on Suarez/Evra and send to the nationals? It is getting beyond a joke how fucking thick ignorant/up Fergie's hole/anti-Liverpool (delete as appropriate) they are over this and in general. SSN yesterday reporting constantly about that loon from North Wales who was making monkey gestures. Get a grip knob heads.

Just saw Kenny's response to a journo asking him was it wrong for us to boo Evra. One word - GENIUS.

Just saw that there. Ridiculous stuff for many reasons.

1. Kelly 2. Carroll 3. Skrtel

Get in lads. Great win! Some observations: Andy's best game for us; Why wasn't Pepe wearing a cap in the 2nd half? Enrique has dropped off a level or two lately; Hand on heart, Rafael was probably overall MOTM. Fuck off Manc scallies.

Nice comment from Kenny today when acknowledging the importance of us not to be seen to be inciting hatred: "Also, anyone who reports or comments on the game has the responsibility to make sure they are not trying to incite trouble." Kenneth lad, don't hold your breath on that one.

What a fucking insult to the 11 heroes out there last night that a thread to that match has descended into a farce.

I abhor the decision against Suarez as much as the next fan. Kangaroo court, dodgy uncorroborated evidence, Bacon face's best mate etc. I just personally think we've made our point with the t-shirts and all the comments regarding Luis's integrity and his mixed background meaning he is not a very likely candidate to be throwing around racist abuse. My opinion is, after all this, enough is enough.

Good that Henry was there too to see how passionate things can get on these big nights. He might put his hand in his pocket a bit easier were he to see some more of these. I fear the atmos at 3 o'clock Sat games won't change though.

And be further seen to stir shit, yeah great idea. How about go along, create a lot of noise, passion, with the odd Suarez song thrown in by all means, and then beat the cunts? What would be wrong with that? Let sleeping dogs lie. Luis is back in two games after all.