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Again, no your facts: Klopp could have moved during any of the last three summers and chose not to do so, but don't worry, apart from that, as you are on every single topic you choose to comment on, you are right and I bow to your superior knolwedge.

If you spoke English that one could actually make sense of and actually respond to the points I made, it might be worth having a debate. What has Houllier got to do with Dormund? The fact is, Dortmund were bust in 2005/06, Klopp took over a team that had battled against relegation the previous couple of years and turned them into champions and CL finalists on a very tight budget. What happened with Sammer in 1997 or 2002 is neither here nor there because it was a different club with different circumstances. In fact, it was their excessive spending of that perid that brought them to the edge of collapse later on.

I am sorry but that is absolute rubbish. Klopp took over in 2008 with the club on its knees both on the pitch and off it, having escaped liquidation by about 20 minutes in 2005. He took them into the Europa League and failed misrably but they steadily improved in the league, He revamped the youth set up and snapped up some absolute bargains in the transfer market, with Hummels (from Bayern's second team) and Kagaawa (for 100,000 euros from Japan's second division) standing out, as well as Lewandowski. He did not just win the league in 2011, he absolutely blitzed it. He then lost his best player that season (Sahin) to Real Madrid, but still managed to win the league again in 2012, also winning the Cup by destroying Bayern 5-2. The following season, he lost Kagawa and replaced him with Reuss and they made it to the CL final, being unlucky to lose. Last season he lost Götze and this season Lewandowski, both to Bayern. Still, last season, he managed to get to the German Cup final which they would won but for a disallowed goal where the boll had crossed the line by a good couple of feet. Yes, he has had a dreadful season this season (CL and German Cup excepted) and, yes, they seem to have bought badly, but his record over the last 4 seasons before this one reads: Leage: 1-1-2-2 Cup: ealry exit - winners - last 16 - runners up Add to that, a CL final and it is nothing short of amazing bearing in mind where the club was. As for the German league being 'weak', it is nothing of the sort. It is an excellent league in which one team dominates. The fact that he managed to break that dominance for a couple of years and still managed to compete with Bayern since then - despite losing his best players to them - shows how good he is. He may well have gone stale and needs a new challenge and, as ever, you don't know how he would work out in a different country, a different club, culture etc BUT he has done far more than Rodgers as a manager. That's nothing against Rodgers, it is simply a fact. If he was available, we should move heaven and earth to get him here.

just as well...

Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. Seriously, no-one if Jones is no better than that why is he at the club? Valdez injured would be betterr than Mignolet. Shambles

A somewhat simplistic reduction of what is happening. Klopp has been excellent at coaching defending, in fact until last season Dortmund were consistently amongst the best ddefensive sides. They lost Subotic to a long-term injury last season - he has only just come back - and they are now without Hummels, as well as their long-standing and excellent fullbacks (whose names I cannot spell to save my life). They have regularly lost their best players to Bayern and other clubs but have usually replaced them with equally good players. Not so this year. That, coupled with injuries to key players - including people like Reus - has led to a 'dip' in form. One big difference between Klopp and Rodgers: One has two league titles and an FA Cup (as well as a CL final and another Cup final) on his CV against much richer opposition, whilst the other has not.

People are blaming Balotelli for not doing anything in this game? Have a lok at the fucking midflied, non-existent. We'll be lucky to get a point here. Terrible football and nont too differenret from Houllier 2002-2004, the two worst years of football I have ever had the misfortune to watch. Absolutely dire.

I know a lot of them quite well, yes.

Lots of people here would obviously not agree with me but, having lived here for 7 years, it is clear to me that there IS a different culture and a different perception of what is right and wrong. There are a million reasons for this and a complex history but Luis does seem to represent what for me is a reasonably typical South American, especially when it comes to sport.

You sound like a Brazilian: They is always someone worse. Thing is, I don't care. Cantona got banned from all football for 8 months, Mourinho got away with it, Terry got 4 games when Suarez got 8. It's inconsistent and infuriating but it is what it is. None of that excuses his behaviour or the fact that he simply refuses to learn from the mistakes he makes. I could not care less if he got a two-year ban from international football, what I care about is the fact that he always repeats his mistakes and therfore is highly likely to do something similarly stupid again for us. The fact that there is inconsistent punishment is no excuse for his behaviour.

Fair enough, totally agree that there are far worse things in football. Having said that, if someone bites a fellow professional three times in 5 years, he's got issues. Part of that, as I said in another post, is down to a general South American thing of doing literally everything to get what you want. Add to that his personality and you have quite a mix. Obviously FIFA will react and I think he'll be lucky to avoid at least a one-year ban. Again, that's not right bearing in mind that there ARE far worse things going on in football. But we know that FIFA and the rest care about 'image' and will make an 'example' of a case like this, especially with someone who's got previous. HE surely knows that as well. But, as so many people in this region, he does not learn from the past, he just repeats it. That is what gets me.

I am sorry, but that's simply rubbish. He bit a player for the third time in 5 years and that's simply unacceptable. The lad's got problems and it's about time he sorted them out. My son's not yet three but does not bite anymore. Will the prress go to town over this? Yes. Is that right? No But the fact is, Luis leaves himself wide open to this shit by HIS behaviour. I am not saying we should get rid or anything, but I am getting a bit tired of all the excuses that are being made for him. He is a grown man who can't control his emotions and his anger. That is HIS problem and it's time he did something about it.

His World Cup is over and quite right too. I don't want to stereo-type but, living in South America for 7 years, Suarez is very typical of many people here in that, for them, everything is acceptable as long as it gets them to their objective...and as long as they get away with it. There is also a tendency here to simply forget what went before. You simply do not learn because you do not link events from the past to events of the present. So, the fact that Suarez has been done for the same thing twice does not mean that it has any impact on what he does now. I suspect if he gets done for it, the club would be quite glad to get rid of him if the right offer came along.

A few to choose from; Coventry in 96/97, which essentially lost us the title. Bradford in 2000 Portsmouth in the Cup in 2003(?) a match so predictably dire I actually wanted Portsmouth to kill us off at Anfield after equalizing just so I did not have to travel down there the following week Newcastle on New Years Day 2003 Aston Villa away in 2006/07 (I think), one of THE most boring games of football I ever watched. At New Street Station an hour after the game the lads I was with and I could not remember a single notable thing that happened in the match. I am sure there are others I have actually really fogotten.

It did not 'all go wrong'. We conceded too many goals and, ultimately, we drew with Villa, WBA, Palace and lost to Hull. We obviously need to improve parts of our game and build up the team and the squad, but, when it all settles down, we've had a superb season and have improved beyond all recognition. Next season will be a lot harder with lots more expectations but that's for tomorrow.

Going through all kinds of emotions today and, for that matter, the last few weeks. I am proud because I never expected this season to turn out as it has, but am absolutely gutted that it slipped away as it has. We have won 19 of the last 25 games and still it was not enough, it's heart-breaking. In any case, the worst thing today was watching it and realizing how much I still miss going to Anfield. I have been away for 7 years now and have never 'got over' not going to matches and the lap of honour today just had me in floods of tears and I am a grown man. This club MEANS so much, more than I ever imagined when I went week in, week out. Let's have a break, dust ourselves down and go again.

Should I break the habit of a lifetime and go onto RedCafe?? It's tempting!!

Ramirez is a horrible twat, Chelsea are perfect for him. Mourinho classless as ever. Just win tomorrow, Reds, just fucking do it.

Redknapp was an outragously overrated player. That is all.

I don't know what's worse. The article or the player.

I am actually getting slightly worried that he might not see out the season.

Someone who does not seem to have the slightest bit of talent cannot 'get going'. He look so terribly out of his depth I almost feel sorry for him, makes Erik Meijer look like a cultured footballer.

The Emirates is terrible for the simple reason that it is soulless and is no longer unique. I went to Benfica in 2006 and to the Emirates a year later. The new Estadio da Luz and the Emirates are identical, there is not the slightest bit of difference between them. Yes, people make the atmosphere, but at least Highbury was unique, it was Arsenal. New stadiums - with a couple of notable exceptions, like Porto - are a particular model, depending on your budget. Horrible.

Code, you are a prick, we all get that. Apart from that, why don't you just fuck off? That's all;

The drop-off in performance in the second half is becoming a bit of a theme and is worrying. Having said that, I did think, as backs-to-the-wall performances go, it was a good one and the fact that we have come away with something should only strengthen belief. Overall a decente result, never easy there and we've come out still unbeaten and top of the league. We have had worse times.