Andy M

I can hardly bring myself to think about it, but The Scum have as good a chance as ever this season to finally surpass Liverpool's league title haul. Can you imagine Hairy Hands and the rest of the Sky brigade, spunking themselves unconscious, finally being able to call Man Utd the most successful English club? This isn't in any way Hodgson's fault, but that would smart, especially if we've had an underwhelming season with more players heading out the door.

A lot of people seem to be getting confused between not having confidence in a manager, and wanting the manager sacked. I was (am) the original poster of the thread, but I didn't post the poll (it seems two threads have been joined together?), and it appears this may be confusing people about the tone of the original post; this isn't a 'call to arms' or a chance to call the manager derogatory names (which is pretty pathetic), it's simply a fan voicing his concerns. Roy seems a very nice guy and I have no doubt that he wants the best for the club. It's 100% correct to say that he deserves a chance, but this doesn't mean that it's wrong to state any apprehensions you have, or debate the manager's actions. Again, I'm not calling for his head, I'm simply stating that I have fears that he may not be the right guy and that I'm underwhelmed by what I've seen so far.

Good post, I think this is probably true.

Just to get one thing straight: at no point have I asked for him to be sacked. I've voiced my concerns, which may be stronger than others', but that's a far cry from asking for somebody's head. After posting this thread, I saw this: POOR SCOUSER TOMMY: DIABOLICAL TORRES HYSTERIA

I hate writing this, as I've always been one to give our manager (and players) time and the benefit of the doubt to get things right. I'm not one for snap judgements and am, at heart, a serial optimist, but I'm saddened to admit that I've already all but given up on Hodgson's reign as Liverpool manager. Alarm bells began ringing when the jubilation of being told we were trying to sign Young from Aston Villa turned to incredulity to find it was Luke, not Ashley, who we were after. Not only that, the bastard ended up turning us down. Those alarms turned into sirens after the first half against Arsenal. That performance - like all first half's this season - put paid to rest any illusion that we were still in a 'honeymoon period' with the appointment of the new manager. Even if you'd hired the worst manager in the world (and please note, I'm not saying we have!), after a change in management you expect some upturn with fresh impetus and new ideas, but we've seen none of this. The football we've seen so far is - at best - on par with the depressingly horrendous stuff we saw last year, football which got one of the most sought-after manager's in world football the sack. Other alarm bells: - lining up 4-4-2 away to City - the Lucas/Poulsen partnership - preferring Skrtel over Agger, Jovanovic over either one of Babel or Pacheco - letting Aquilani (a £15m+ player) leave for nothing in a season when we were absolutely desperate for a second striker but had limited funds - can we honestly believe there was no club which would have been willing to do a swap for the loan of a striker? - having expectations "not that high" versus Birmingham, and being "not that disappointed to draw [or with] our performance" As far as I can see, Hodgson's finest achievement so far has been keeping hold of Gerrard and Torres, but if you were in the latter's boots how long would you stick around? Torres says that he's going to give it another season and then see how things lie and to be honest I can't blame him. I see his frustrations primarily being with the owners, not the manager, but would you stick around if you were to think that our performance against Birmingham was to be in any way repeated over the coming season? It was one of Torres' worst performances in a red shirt and, like the rest of the team, he was far from blameless for the performance, but is there a striker in world football who could have produced the results provided with so little by the rest of the team? As with any player, if his head has been turned and if he is wishing for a move away from LFC in the summer then he should be shown the door. The sadness here is Torres/Reina and Alonso (when he was here), these lads 'get' Liverpool FC. They're not badge kissers; they understand the tradition and what the club means to the local people. These guys are world class players who appear to truly care about the club they play for. We've seen with Alonso how difficult it has been to replace him, I'd hate to make the same mistake with the others. There's been a lot of talk about us having to be a lot more realistic about our expectations this season, and I agree, but 4th place shouldn't be too far out of our sights. Even if history were to repeat itself, that Liverpool were to finish a position lower in the new manager's first season than the position of the previous season, you get the feeling that so long as there were definite signs that we were going down a path which would eventually lead to success with more flowing attractive football, that the current players - and prospective future players - would probably accept one step back to take two steps forward. As yet, I'm honestly yet to see anything which makes me feel that we have turned a corner, and that we're on the path to bigger and better things. The football we've played is like a horrible mixture of the worst of Houllier's reign, and the worst of Benitez's: sitting around our own box while hoofing long aimless balls forward, and with two defensive 'holding' midfielders 'controlling' the game. Where is the light at the end of the tunnel? I'm not calling for the managers head, but at the same time I'm not willing to accept the turgid sh*te we've seen so far, and I wonder how many of the players will be thinking along the same lines. I hope I'm wrong, and that Hodgson is able to attain legendary status at LFC, but more and more I get the feeling that Hodgson may be a temporary appointment, and at what cost?

Remove the battery, and stick the phone back in your airing cupboard for another 24 hours. Regrettably, I reckon you may soon need to start looking for a replacement phone...

First thoughts are compo...love it! :wallbutt:

Fucking hell, this is a masterpiece. Talented bastards!

Is this 'Lucas Neill Part II', only shitter?

Think we're unlikely to cup tie Degen if we're wanting to sell him. Also think Roy will choose to go against the medical teams advice, and will play a few 1st teamers. Contrary to some opinion I think it's hugely unlikely that Roy will be allowed to even contemplate sacrificing The UEFA Cup for domestic comps.

All this talk of Villa's Luke Young was getting me pretty excited, until I realised that I'd been getting him mixed up with Ashley Young. Me = prize idiot!

One of the top 5 strikers in the world on current form IMO.

I've had the iPhone 4 since day of release. No heat issues, no dropped signal and the battery is fantastic. Feel sorry for those with problems, but it's not been my experience. Far from it!

Talk is that Macia won't be following Rafa, and is likely to stay at LFC...

Yeah, O2 here too - excellent speed and service.

Who Needs Flash? Adobe vs HTML5

I bought a new 15" Core i7 Macbook Pro a few days ago - fantastic bit of kit which, in truth, doesn't lag massively far behind the quad core Mac Pro I have. They're expensive, possibly too expensive for what they are, but I'd pay twice their price just to stay away from having to run Windows :)

My choice would be Frank Rijkaard.

I never ever want Liverpool to lose, especially to a team of despicable XXXX's like Chel$ki, but as far as I can see it we're in a no-win situation tomorrow. Handing the title to The Scum, and in doing so allowing them to overhaul our record is just too sour a taste to swallow. As a result I'm totally avoiding the game. Will probably take the family for a meal, and leave my phone at home. To those of you going to watch the match, you're braver souls than me! Yours, Utterly Depressed.

Sounds like you may have a dodgy DNS address. Try this: System Preferences -> Network -> Advanced... -> TCP/IP -> Then, noting your current IP Address, change 'Configure IPv4' to 'Using DHCP with manual address' and change the last two digits. So if it was originally something like 192.168.0.10 manually change it to something like 192.168.0.99 Then click to save the changes.

Dave, try running this: Maintain - Cocktail - Overview

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Given that we've been shopping at the equivalent of Lidl recently, I would think it's unlikely he'd put his reputation on the line. Would I want him here? No.

British Gas. Especially British Gas Business.