liver bird

Thats a very interesting take on it all, they wouldn't be that cynical now would they........

Well said, bad as anyone the fucking snake, he was supposed to get a minority investor and failed and is still there...why?

Not because he is being employed by someone then? if you look at previous news it doesn't seem to be filled with articles like this, its more business news than some egotistical cunt doing this becos he is bored.

just to further add Square 1 also advised Dubai International Capital during its ultimately unsuccessful pursuit of Liverpool

anyone know anything of this 10 million penalty RBS want to charge the club?

In this case its not an article its an open letter from Square1 Consulting that he is simply reporting on for once! he's taken it from here was posted today, an open letter from here http://www.square1consulting.co.uk/ I like the fact the Birk fella blames the people running the club for the past 2 decades are to take blame as well, yes you Moores you tit. look under news....interesting

certainly does

He's said nothing but the truth there unfortuntely.

It all depends on who you believe, this forum as a whole seem to have nailed their colours to the club mast, but I don't believe anything that comes from the club, its a nest of snakes, chelsea chairman, purslow a man who has failed his brief by the looks of it but hanging around like a bad smell upsetting the manager, topped off with the yanks, all getting rid of rafa will mean is a yes man installed, theres no money on offer to them, the situation is shitty whatever way you look at it.

Finance expert predicts bleak Liverpool future By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent Liverpool's asking price for a takeover may be as much as an inflated £800 million, according to analysis from a leading City expert in football finance. The replacement or refurbishment of Anfield is a key issue in any takeover. And David Bick, Chairman of Square 1 Consulting, argues that Liverpool are in urgent need of a "rescue" package rather than a takeover, as the club need to move from their crumbling Anfield to a new stadium, and are in danger of losing star players such as Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard. Bick is an advisor to Keith Harris, who has been behind two abortive takeover bids for the stricken club in the recent past, and says City sources have informed him that even the reduced price the two American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett might accept, £500 million, is far too high, saying: "Rumours abound of a price being asked from £500 million up to an incredible £800 million." While Harris is a leading light in the 'Red Knights' group heavily linked with trying to buy out the Glazers at Manchester United, Bick has focused on their North-West rivals and warns of an impending £10 million fee to be imposed by the Royal Bank of Scotland to extend bank-loan facilities for a further six months. And Bick suggests that, while the club is due to publish and publicise a £35 million profit, there are huge similarities with the recent Manchester United bond issue launched after a similar posting of a putative financial gain. As part of their bond prospectus, United were able to claim a £48.2 million profit, having sold Cristiano Ronaldo for £80 million while Liverpool sold Xabi Alonso for £35 million to Real Madrid last summer - almost the exact amount Bick believes will be trumpeted as this year's profit. In a damning indictment of financial affairs and long-standing neglect at Liverpool, Bick writes in an open letter: "Liverpool has potentially reached its most important historic point. The club has now gone 20 years without winning the English League title. It has never won the Premier League. It was drummed out earlier than expected from this year's Champions League and now, as one of the world's biggest clubs, faces the ignominy and reality of failing to qualify for next season's premier European competition. "To my mind, the people running the club over the last two decades must bear the bulk of the responsibility and the brunt of the criticism. On a recent visit to Anfield to watch my team, West Ham, play like a pub team with a Force 10 hangover, one had only to look at the stadium to see the years of dreadful neglect at first hand. Unbelievably, there are still pillars holding up one roof! "Whether it comes down to incompetence or thoughtless arrogance at Liverpool, we have seen the club left behind by the other great clubs like Arsenal, Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea and Spurs. They have rebuilt their stadia to high standards and, largely speaking, to capacities that accommodate their substantial fan bases. Yet all Liverpool fans have heard is talk and a string of broken promises. "The other clubs have built their revenue streams or attracted owners that have given them the wherewithal to compete effectively at the top of the modern game. It seems to me that the Liverpool fans are being treated to a 'product' that is rooted in the 1970s. Sadly, in very recent times, Liverpool has also been owned by people who have said much and delivered little of the stated vision. Replacing them is a very urgent imperative. "Liverpool claimed in a recent statement that it has 'overseen a significant improvement in the financial performance of the club since 2007'. Well, that's difficult to assess. The management has not published accounts for Kop Football (Holdings) Limited - the main trading company - since the filing for the year to 31 July 2008 and, in that year, the business showed net losses of over £42 million and net interest payments on debt of £35 million not covered at all (let alone adequately) by operating profit - pre-player amortisation and trading - of £25 million. "Debt remains stubbornly near a reported £240 million, so what profits are produced do not leave much, if anything, for the manager to work with, even if we believe rumours of a £35 million profit for the year that will end this 31 July. In short, Liverpool's financial structure can't work in my opinion and, since the sale of the club in 2007, it was never going to. "If the manager cannot operate competitively in the transfer market, he has no chance of competing regularly in the top four. We have now seen the first concrete sign of this with the failure to even stay in the top four. Manchester United, a club manfully trying to cope with a similarly onerous financial structure will also, I believe, start to experience similar problems, although their state of decline is nowhere near as advanced as Liverpool's. "It seems axiomatic to me that Liverpool needs new, responsible owners and new top-flight, football-experienced executive management. It will not be beyond the wit of man, the new well regarded chairman included, to find such a new owner. But first of all, Liverpool needs to stop spinning silly numbers. Rumours abound of a price being asked from £500 million up to an incredible £800 million, the lower of which is, in my view, way over the top for a club in its current condition and by any sensible comparison with Arsenal or Manchester United. Bick pinpoints the burning issue of a new stadium, a project that has stalled during over three years of American ownership, and says that this can only make any takeover more complicated. "Financially at least, Liverpool must have a new stadium if it is to have any hope of restoring past glories," he writes. "But the finance for that, and any subsequent financial benefit to owners, must accrue to those who put up the money. In any case, this will not be a conventional acquisition of a football asset - it is more likely now to be a rescue. "The new owners will need to be people of high calibre. They will need to have access to very large sums of money to build the new stadium, revitalise the management and allow for a well thought-through strengthening of the playing squad." On the current and much-debated issue of Rafael Benitez's future as Liverpool manager, Bick expresses the pressing need for stability to be restored or else the club could face a doomsday scenario. "Right now, Liverpool is at risk of losing its manager and some of its best players, demoralised by a recent Europa Cup semi-final defeat and a poor season. While no-one is irreplaceable, such an exodus will leave a new owner with an even more difficult task. Therefore, the new chairman of Liverpool needs to act with some swiftness. "Once decline becomes precipitous, even money may not prevent the decline spiralling into permanency." Bick's open letter, headed 'Rescuing Liverpool', seen by Soccernet, may well cause shock waves among the Premier League community and not just at Anfield. Finance expert predicts bleak Liverpool future - Barclays Premier League - ESPN Soccernet Thought it was a decent article, the accounts to show a an alonso size profit..... I just hope it isn't terminal decline like the article suggests it could be.

It would stink of desperation and Newcastle, given the financial situation we are in things are only going to get worse it would be devastating to see Kenny getting shit off the fans (which he eventually would from some clueless whoppers) for things not under his control, not to mention he's been out of management for too long. I think the longing to see Kenny back as manager that is still harboured by some fans needs to be put down to sentimentality and a dream. If Kenny took over it would simply be another cyncial cheap stunt to win over the fans and blind them from whats really going on at the club for another year. If you fall for it your a moron. I would like to see Kenny resign from his role at the club along with the manager and directly cite the yanks as the reason why.

Rafa is just getting people used to the idea of him leaving, without investment this summer he's off and when he does he doesn't want to be blamed for walking out on a mess of a club, he wants to get the blame in early.

Whats sadder is that immigration wasn't even top of her concerns when she was talking to Gordon, she was far more worried about other issues in particular university fees that would directly affect her grandkids!

Heres a bit about her life from that right wing rag called the Guardian Gillian Duffy: a lifelong Labour voter who may bring down the PM | Politics | The Guardian Worked with disabled kids (not sure if thats the right term to use, god help me if it isn't, I'll be accused of all sorts)....only the white ones though.

The other trouble is that the working class (making a generalisation here)don't talk about immigration in 'acceptable' terms, mind you they don't go to endless seminars on political correctness either and are then often misinterpretated as 'racist' when they aren't! someone earlier proved the point when someone said it was the terminology they had a problem with saying she should say something like this 'I'm concerned with the numbers of workers coming to this country, are you concerned by it and what ramifications might it have for British nationals?' come on now lets get real! I don't think she is going to couch it quite in those terms do you? Her problem was that she was too straight and didn't go around the houses, she named the immigrant group that was particularly prevalent in her area...this apparently isn't allowed, not sure who decreed this though. I'm not saying that some people aren't racist but the biggest crime here to me seems to be that she wasn't using the right terminology but that doesn't mean she needs to be ignored, sneered at, slagged off and treated with contempt either.

The woman wasn't a racist, I don't even think she is a bigot, her biggest failing is that she is not up to date with the latest PC language and so expressed herself badly in PC speak....I don't know Rochdale well but I assuming the reason she mentioned east europeans in particular is because there is an influx into that area not because she was singling them out for no other reason than she is a nazi. Contempt of her is contempt for working class people who have voted and stuck by the Labour party all their lifes, if your going to call people like her racist where do you think you'll drive them too? she looked genuinely shocked and upset when she found out she had been called a bigot, felt sorry for her to be honest, people like her have been the backbone to our country, they have worked all their lifes, saved and scrimped by to allow a situation where this country is rich enough to take in immigrants and what do they get in return...being a called a bigot and a racist, nice.

you know its going to happen as well....

I wanted us to win the Blackburn game as well but if I could have looked into the future and seen the next 15 years of united dominance with them about to overtake our records I think I'd change me tune, fact is we probs won't get a champions league place and we certainly don't deserve one after the shit served up this season, I think it would be a disgrace for the team to start putting up a fight just as the season is ending, fuck the mancs, in a season as shit as this been we don't need to shoot ourselves in the foot by adding to our own misery by helping them overtake us, I'd like the weakest team sent out to be honest....

:eek:last time I eat mayo, that image is now firmly stuck in my head, disgusting!

just feel like a brown granary roll filled with humous, watercrest and olives stuffed with thick farm ham and a black pepper....not had it before quite like that but could just eat it right now.

One of the few? I liked him better than tennant.

or 'cos your mum is a fucking slag' and then his son will understand.

they won't be shaking hands, wouldn't be surprised if one them pull outs with an 'injury'

Bridge does nothing wrong and yet gets insulted by people...strange, how do know the affair only started when bridge had split up with her? are you john terry?...would you believe or trust anything terry said, if he says he only started seeing her after they split up then you believe the opposite..simple

apart from feeling sorry for being born a few years too late, I feel sorry for the youth thinking of going to uni now, I never thought I'd see a time when we would have tuition fees at 3 grand a year and rising in our uni's plus more loans on top of that simply for living expenses, I went on two marches against tuition fees full stop never mind the shite system we have now, its frightening how fast this has happened and how people have just accepted it, the govt know they can get away with it so tuition fees will rise and rise till they hit american standards I don't doubt. But people will still go, what will it take to put people off going.