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    Sadio Mane

    Basically this. Lallana has had an absolute nightmare with injuries although I do not think he has done himself any favours when coming back and throwing himself about only to get injured yet again.
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    My heart breaks at this.

    While scanning through the reports of our achievement on Tuesday night yesterday I came across one of the most vilest pieces of reporting I had in a long time. It was a re harsh of the blame Liverpool fans for everything mentality linked to the attack on Sean Cox an inocent fans who had turned up to watch his team play. It was vile shit and it encouraged loads of vile anti Liverpool comments. I do not know if I got banned but I labelled a number of the posters scum because that is what they were for the comments they made. It really breaks my heart to read that shit and alleged incidents of people getting pissed on from above in the lower ARE do not help. Apparently the offending article has been taken down according to the Echo. I do not know whether this Mafham is a journalist or just some bastard given a platform to spout his anti Liverpool shit. He comes across as either a Manchester United or Chelsea card carrying supporter. Not surprisingly the Echo are not allowing comments. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/incorrect-ignorant-offensive-newspaper-response-14579442 After the inspiring, enduring – and ultimately vindicated - heroism displayed by the Hillsborough families, after many years of an entire region's reputation being cruelly traduced – and after a decades-long fight for justice in the face of establishment indifference, I thought we had seen an end to small-minded prejudice towards Liverpool Football Club and its fans. Think again. A 53-year-old Liverpool supporter lies in hospital in a critical condition, the subject of an assault by two Roma supporters. Yet in a vile, presumptuous and repugnant article published on today's Daily Express website the writer, Colin Mafham, appears to infer that Liverpool brought such trouble upon themselves. We shouldn't be surprised. We've heard those kind of historic prejudices before, but thought they went out of fashion with The Spectator's notorious 'self pity city.' Sadly not. Under the headline “Liverpool must take serious action after Roma violence or risk further trouble” Mafham, in a spectacular display of generalisation, wrote: “Why does trouble seem to follow them (Liverpool fans) like bees round a honey pot?” After praising Liverpool's performance on the pitch on Tuesday he adds: “It's not the players who produced that performance who I have an issue with, it's some of the people who 'follow' them that frighten the living daylights out of me. “You would have thought the deaths of 39 Italians at the European Cup final Liverpool lost to Juventus in 1985 - plus the five year ban on English clubs that consequently came after that - would have had a sobering effect. “You would have thought the horrors at Hillsborough and 96 more deaths that followed only four years later would have made everyone more aware of their responsibilities to each other. “Those two tragedies, in which the central figures were sadly mostly from Liverpool, are arguably football's most painful Achilles and hopefully will never happen again.” Once again the two very different tragedies of Heysel and Hillsborough are lumped shamelessly together. Heysel was a criminal act for which 14 Liverpool fans were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and seven served jail sentences. Hillsborough was wholly different – a tragedy in which it took 28 years for a jury to rule what really happened: that 96 Liverpool fans were unlawfully killed in a disaster that Reds supporters were judged to have played no role in causing. A view of The Albert pub on Walton Breck Road, where the attack happened Yet, in an astonishing leap of imagination, Mafham muses: “So why do I fear that the latest generation of that club's supporters could well add another chapter to England's footballing book of condolences?” The 'evidence' for such fear appears to come from the attack on the Manchester City team bus three weeks ago, actions immediately denounced by Liverpool Football Club and which resulted in the immediate action of a change of bus route with increased policing. The arrival of Roma's team bus on Tuesday was trouble-free. Yet Mafham asks: “We know where the empty bottles came from, but where the heck did they get those fire flares that were thrown at the Manchester City and Roma team buses? You couldn't bring them through customs the last time I looked.” If that was factually incorrect, what followed was just plain offensive. Roma fans attack a Liverpool fan before the game last night. He enquires: “And why is a 53-year-old man now seemingly fighting for his life, and two Italians being held on suspicion of attempted murder, before a football match involving Liverpool? “When you have a team capable of playing the joyous football Liverpool have for most of this season, how on earth are their fans always seemingly involved in such horrific altercations on big European nights.” If you search for the term 'fire flares' you learn that they can be bought freely in this country. A 53-year-old man is fighting for his life because he was allegedly attacked by a 20 and 27 year old Italian. And does two unrelated tragedies 33 and 29 years ago really amount to “always seemingly involved in such horrific altercations?” For the record, nine men were arrested on Tuesday night, five from Italy – all for violence related offences or possession of offensive weapons – one man was from Ealing, one from Thurrock and two men were from Merseyside; one was arrested for being drunk and disorderly, the other for cocaine possession. “No one is suggesting that the violence that erupted on Tuesday night was solely the fault of Liverpool fans,” Mafham eventually adds. “Their visitors from Rome were clearly just as thuggish, and just as frightening. “But there are suggestions that the reputation of Liverpool supporters had gone before them and Roman yobs had simply decided to get in first, and with such awful consequences. It's not right, but it does again highlight a common denominator.” Liverpool fans outside The Arkles pub - but the Roma bus went elsewhere, untouched It is a common denominator perpetuated by writers like Colin Mafham. He concludes: “That's why I urge Liverpool Football Club to condemn, rather than giving succour to excuses like 'it's society's problem' and 'all the world's against us.'” Here we go. Let's flashback to 1989 all over again and Self Pity City. But Mafham saves his piece de resistance for his conclusion. “The club needs to recognise it has a big problem - and has had for some years - and proactively support and work with those whose job it is to preserve law and order. Click to play “If they don't then there is a very real danger that revenge will be sought by both sides when they meet in Rome for the second leg on May 2, and all hell could break loose again. “And if that happens we will all be losers, on and off the field.” During the time it's taken me to write this article, the Daily Express deleted one paragraph from Mafham's article, then taken the whole piece down.
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    roma home

    What a star. Lucas has helped his former club Liverpool ahead of their Champions League semi-final clash with Roma next week. The Brazilian left Anfield in 2017, signing for Roma's bitter rivals Lazio, but it seems he has remained a Red at heart, as his latest gesture proves. Liverpool take a 5-2 advantage with them to Italy for the second leg tie, and will use Lazio's Formello training ground before and after the match. According to Sky in Italy, Lucas acted as an "intermediary" to make the agreement possible, to ensure the Liverpool team are in tip-top shape for the most important game of their season to this point.
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    Naby Keita

    He bagged 2 goals against United when it looked like we were going to get thumped.
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    Stoke Home - Sat 28/4

    Trent in midfield not sure. I think if he is playing him he would play him at RB instead of Gomez myself and even that depends if Clyne is not available. Could see Woodburn potentially playing myself.
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    Mohamed Salah

    Well anyone who would slate Mo Mane and even Can for observing their religious needs are complete intolerant nobheads then arent they.
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    Naby Keita

    van Dijk.
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    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

    Must be a German thing.
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    Rob Jones

    Strange question. No I did not have that pleasure. Did you.
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    roma home

    Embarassing piece by Football Italia. People had to go under the Kop to get to the ARE. Even allowing for shit translation everyone knows you cannot go under the Kop. I have no problem with Italian people but this is just downright lies and disinformation.
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    Klopp interview / press conference thread

    I love Jurgen I really do. He comes across as a genuine guy.
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    Rob Jones

    Life in the Galaxy or Universe usually.
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    Emre Can

    I am really not arsed. If he does stay we do not need to immediately spend big money on his replacement.
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    Rob Jones

    Chris Lawler was great. I think Neal eventually overtook him as the best scoring fullback although Chris did not take pens. I do not generally compare players from one era against another. They were great in their time and that is all you can ask.
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    Mohamed Salah

    Mo is great.
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    roma home

    When we went in 84 we stayed about 20 miles outside Rome. First morning there we found our coaches trashed. That is the equivalent to visiting fans coaches parked up in Warrington being attacked the night before a game in Liverpool. We were then told there was a public transport strike on in Rome so could not get into the city until time to travel to the game. I have never experienced such hostility travelling to an oppos ground. Louts on scooters were kicking the coach on the way to the stadium. Near the ground we had to slow to a crawl going along crowded streets. apart from the verbal volleys we got there were kids and adults lobbing anything not tied down at the coach. And we were just fans not the official Liverpool team bus. I hope people going to Rome stay safe and urge them not to get separated or go off piste by themselves. Do not expect the police to protect you as they were worse than the ultras. Stay safe.
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    My heart breaks at this.

    Thank you.
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    *Shakes head* Everton again.

    Funny they missed the 3 fellas getting charged in the lower gwladys recently. Funny they gloss over the 12 year old lad shouting racist comments at a game and his Dad just laughing and looking smug. As to how those Roma lads were charged so quickly one there was filmed evidence of them doing the attack they were quickly caught by the police three they were foreign nationals so were held to stop them skipping back to Italy.
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    Mohamed Salah

    I see teflon gobshite Mourinho is saying he could not play Mo at Chelsea more often because there were other better players in front of him and anyway it was Chelsea who forced the decision to loan him out then sell him. Yeah right. Makes you wonder why Mourinho personally phoned mo and said he wanted him in his team when he had all these better players in front of him and gazump the fee we were prepared to pay. As for the club forcing the loan and sale on Mourinho that is just more bollocks to deflect criticism away from him. We all know Mourinho had no real desire for Mo he just wanted to prevent another team in this case us from potentially getting a good player and being more competitive.
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    Other football - 2017/18 edition.

    Stevie in line to manage Rangers with Gary Mac. Surely not Stevie. Continue your grounding with the U18s.
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    My heart breaks at this.

    He will be on a contract to write articles for them in return for payment. It is quite common place. Thing is I saw that original article and it already had loads of anti Liverpool comments about Hillsbrough victims getting English clubs banned etc etc. Mafham knew he was stirring shit with it and got the response he wanted. It is a disgrace the Express every published it.
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    roma home

    Italian press just stirring up shit for when their ultras kick off and say it was Liverpool fans who started it. They clearly do not know that most of the official 5000 going have to have been to a couple if not most European aways to get tickets for this. If there is a 1000 known trouble makers in this lot how come there has been no trouble reported in our away games beyond rough house policing away to Seville.
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    Other football - 2017/18 edition.

    They did not create shitload of chances. What game were you watching.
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    Other football - 2017/18 edition.

    Arsenal had absolutely no creativity the whole game. You can see why they have lost the last 5 away PL games isnt it. But I am ok with that. Love seeing them arrogant gooner fans suffer. Time out of the cL and PL top 5 would be real karma for all their hooooooof chants.
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    Other football - 2017/18 edition.

    So did Kenny but that worked out well.
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