Numero Veinticinco

I didn't read the 10 or so people you quoted, but even if they're the worst abuse ever at a player anywhere, I think your framing of them as 'most fans' is, in a fanbase of 18 million, probably a bit of a stretch. I could, of course, get the same thing for Suarez, Torres, and Salah. Hell, I could do the same for Gerrard and Carra. But look, Some people clearly dislike him. Some, like you and LFD are very defensive of him. In my honest opinion, if you have one unchanging view of something or somebody that doesn't change when the situation changes then it's not a view I want to hold. It's dogmatic and based on bias. When Hendo has been playing poorly, I said that's what I thought. Same with Salah (and, as somebody who was posting about him on here when he was at Basle, even posting videos of him playing in Egypt and as a kid) the other week when he was playing really poorly, I said he was doing my nut in. It doesn't mean that I needed to be honest with myself and that I really didn't rate him. The first person to give Henderson credit when he has a really good game is me, you'll know this because I post about it. When he has one of those games where he just bosses everything, I fucking love him as a player. This last few matches, I've praised him. I don't dislike the guy or think he's shit. I think he has performed at a mediocre level for ages. I call him a good pro (which you seem to think is an insult, but I think he's like Milner in that he's a great guy to have around), his attitude is always spot fucking on. Your attempts to paint me as somebody with extreme positions on Hendo are just wide off the mark. He's... fine. Occasionally very good, occasionally has a poor game, but generally he's just fine. But I've said all this stuff, so I'll not bother doing it again after this post. Bottom line, I sure as shit hope he lifts both trophies and has an incredible run in. I've got absolutely nothing against the guy.

If only I was honest with myself, eh. Because when what I actually wrote about him failed to show me as a hater, and when the opinion I show now fails, the last resort is that I was pretending not to be a hater. LFD and TK sure do love him.

What are you talking about ‘not right for the club’?

What's with your use of hashtags. You understand that 1) I didn't say he was subpar 2) this isn't twitter. All this 'haha' and hashtag bullshit makes you look pretty fucking ridiculous.

What have I made up? I'm saying that you calling he got us there diminishes the contribution of those who actually got us there. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Not right for the club? Huh? Yes. I have watched, and praised, his performances in the last three games. Perhaps you want to focus on what I'm saying instead of what you think I said. I remember you being a fan of Joe Allen. Bit weird you're using it to - somehow - try to have a go at me regarding Henderson. Are you trying to make a point, because if you are it's sadly flailing.

Fabinho shows a lot of forward play from deep. He shows how that role should be played, at least in style if not always in execution. Don't you see the difference in the approach the two players have in that role?

And you think that's what you're doing by saying HE got us to the CL final and HE got us to the top of the table, do you? Judging him fairly? Feel free to bump my Allen posts. I liked Allen. I like Sahin too. Then for each of those ones, I'm sure you'll be bumping the other 20 that I called right. Because, you know, you're all about fair judgement. Right?

You make a fair point, although lots of top quality captains have also won it. I still want VVD to be the Captain. Henderson doesn't start all the game and I think the Captain should be somebody who is definitely on the pitch all the time.

No, 'we' are not. One person did. Then you said that he got us to the CL final and he got us to the top of the league. You, in order to counter one point, decided to diminish the contribution of the likes of Van Dijk, Salah, Mane and Firmino in order to stick up for a player you have lost all objectivity about. I'm just glad he's playing well further forward. The more he does that the better it is for the club.

That's just how good he is. He has got us to the top of the league from the bench. FUCKING PLAYER.

No idea what Joe Allen has to do with anything, but we can play that game if you want to, LFD. We can play the 'bump things that LFD said' game all day long. Your point was utterly fucking ridiculous. Hendo getting us to the CL final and getting us to the top of the league... fucking hell. It's a wonder the other players step on the pitch.

It's... shite.

In the same way that Djimi Traore won us the Champions League, then you're spot on. It wasn't Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, but Traore. It wasn't Salah, Mane, and Firmino scoring more than any other strike force in the history of the competition that got us there, it was Hendo in the 8. It's like the fucking twicunt zone in here sometimes.

Quite the insight.

Probably should sell him and stick a cheapo out there then.

Okay, sure. I hate him and wish he would be disembowelled by one of his haters in the middle of the pitch.

You, yourself, said your view on my opinion was totally wrong. It still is. But whatever, I'm bored of this.

Snarf. It's you, LFD and Stringvest on here. Most think he's been middle of the road for years. And have said so on here. For years. Hopefully that's changing.

There's about three people who don't agree with this view.

You convinced him that I’m in the same boat as Stringvest when really I have no strong feelings either way and am happy and have been praising him recently. Crying into my Cheerios indeed.

I’ll probably watch it just for the visuals. Shows like that make my TV look fucking amazing.

Could you say a little bit more? Is that the new Netflix does Attenborough?

Considering negging you for not linking, but honestly the post contains such great news that I’m going to rep you anyway.

Makes great rice.

Big time, mate. So used to being able to binge stuff.