Gnasher

The cost of Labour six month plan ( 25 billion ish?) minus whatever we feel generous enough to give to energy sector.. the 2.4 billion figure mentioned seems more than enough. I wouldn't pay them a penny tbh. Permanent renationalisation would cost the taxpayers a lot less than this six month scheme, the cure costs less than the sticking plaster.

Awful lot going on in that post.

You are indeed correct on your first appraisal Stronts. Renationalisation would cost approx 20 billion less than this six month Labour plan.

James Obrien admits once voting for Boris Johnson but can't remember why. James Obrien called the Labour Party "the party of Holocaust deniel" before the last election. James Obrien voiced the opinion that he could not vote for Jeremy Corbyn because if he did he could never look his Jewish friends and any EU citizen in the eye again.. James Obrien is not a good egg he's a media cunt with a voice who enabled a Tory election victory a couple of years ago.

As a political plan to put pressure on the Tories its OK.. As a practical plan it doesn't solve the underlying problem.

"A Political crisis does not take a holday' Gordon Brown, three days ago. This brain busting Labour plan is generally a rehash of the idea put forward by the Libs ages ago. It compensates energy firms and gives payouts to energy shareholders plus uses tax payers money subsidise the rich with a cap they don't need. It has little relevance to Brown's plan. It costs more than renationalisation and is temporary for six or so months. It offers nothing to small businesses. Renationalisation is the answer.

I think you've got Gordon Brown's ideas mixed up with this fella, because Starmers have little in common with Brown's,

It just keeps rolling in; Despite Johnson being directly behind the downfall of the last two Conservative PM's David Cameron and Thersa May, being the first sitting PM to be fined for breaking the law, leaving office with the country headed for recession, his premiership surrounded by scandal and allegations of corruption, under investigation for being untruthfull to Parliament and being forced to resign by his own MPs, a poll of Conservative members yesterday showed that if Johnson was on the ballot paper for the tory leadership/pm job he'd still win handsomely.

He's leaving on a high, the good stuff just keeps rolling in, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/13/britain-should-prepare-nuclear-war/ https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/14/ministers-admit-hospital-buildings-england-roofs-could-collapse-any-time No wonder he's fucked off on another holiday.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/13/bank-of-england-under-fire-over-23m-bonus-payouts?s=09 It's a class war. Those at the top are making obscene profits whilst the poor are being starved to death or forced into suicide.

"research into death of benefit claimants"

The war mongers warmonger getting worried about the extent of American warmongering. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11110441/Henry-Kissinger-america-war-Russia-China.html

Just keeps rolling in,

DIY enthusiast's, To food enthusiasts,

She's one horrible person her.

Any examples?

I think Starmers plan is a panic driven load of hogswill. The brains have been working on this for fuck knows how long and the solution is....pay what you did before? Hmm, excuse my cynicism, especially after the strange announcement the other day which would've compensated energy firms. Sounds like he's been shamed by Brown and shocked into action by the velocity of the public mood.. but as other posters have said, he's at least addressed the situation and has offered an alternative..so it's definitely a big move in the right direction... The real long, medium and short term solution is renationalisation. Anything less is the philosophy according to Nero.

The obvious solution for the Mancs is a spell in the lower leagues. A couple of decades down (like Leeds) then come back refreshed. The medicine can't always be sugar coated.