Mr Mojo

I don't believe we have, I certainly haven't read it anywhere other than the odd person on here mentioning him.

It looks like Dirk is leaving this summer and I think Dempsey could be a decent replacement for him if so. He's 29 and I read recently he had 22 goals in all competitions this season, and is an actual midfielder, which Dirk never truly was. He's also out of contract which means a transfer fee would not be required (signing on fee will though). But like everybody else, I'd prefer something younger and with more quality but I don't he'd be a bad option in the case i've just listed.

A voice of reason.

Clever, I like it.

Different link I believe but same story. Liverpool agree £1m deal to sign Sporting Lisbon teenager João Carlos | Football | guardian.co.uk

If true, I think it would be great news for the club. He's more likely to concentrate on his career and not so likely to get into of the field trouble, like the temptations on offer for young starlets these days.

I concur!

He's not in the squad apparently.

Fulham linked with Gignac as he's gone off the boil. Anyone think he could be worth a cheap punt? Fulham are monitoring Andre-Pierre Gignac's situation as the France striker's frustration grows at Marseille after falling out with boss Didier Deschamps.

I'm not fussed what line up we start with, just that the players walking off at the end have secured the win. I really, really dislike Hodgson and would love it to be a thrashing, but I'd take 0-1, 1-2, 2-3, etc right now.

Rooney isn't even the best Utd player anymore in my eyes, Nani is, who also ahs a better record at this stage of career than Ronaldo did for them.

I'm actually really looking forward to seeing how Adam and Gerrard operate with each other, I think that could work really well. I still prefer Downing over Young. Young is thriving in a side perfect for his good attributes and where his team defends very little, and is probably also in his seasons purple patch, whereas Downing is a much better team player for me, and fits in better with what we need/ed at this time. I'm not saying Young will have a less successful season than Downing, I just think that if each had signed for the other team, we'd end up wishing we'd gotten Downing instead, this season at least.

I agree with this mostly, but also feel that he needs very close attention. Someone needs a specific job to look after him and he will be kept quiet mostly, but if we ignore this and treat him as just another player I think he could hurt us down that side (or centrally as I've seen him cut in a fair bit too), especially with our first and second choice right backs unavailable.

This is the way I see it. When the referee is not completely sure of a decision, he should not give it. The majority of referees will however give this decision if it is favour of Man Utd due to the complete shit storm it causes for them in the aftermath should it be incorrect (getting their names dragged through the press, their integrity questioned, sometimes fitness and usually not be given such a game again in a long time). If the team is Liverpool though, due to the fact Kenny is so nice and non-confrontational in the face of such decisions, they will not award it, overall putting LFC at a disadvantage to other such teams that act like cunts.

I know some on here have no time for Tomkins but here's his response to the two articles. Maybe it’s the incredible start made by the Manchester clubs, or maybe it’s just that there are a lot of idiots out there. But I cannot abide the doom and gloom that follows one bad result, particularly when it was not a bad performance. It’s not just the knee-jerk fans on Twitter, whose reaction to anything less than 114 points a season is rapid implosion; two respected broadsheet newspapers ran execrable pieces on the Stoke game. Russell Kempson, writing in the Independent, sets the scene by paraphrasing Liverpool fans: “Kenny Dalglish, Liverpool legend. He rescued us from Roy Hodgson and will return us to the promised land of a top-four finish in the League and a natural resumption of Champions League hostilities in 2011-12. Our rightful place, where we belong.” Having set Dalglish up to be a man who can do no wrong in the eyes of Kopites, he then says: “But the facts – as yet – do not back up the blinkered idolatry. The defeat against Stoke City here on Saturday was Liverpool’s eighth loss in 28 matches since Dalglish sifted through the Hodgson debris and embarked on his emergency salvage operation.” Eight defeats? Sounds bad. Sounds terrible. Sack him! What’s next, Russell? “Perhaps 14 wins and six draws are the better stats to view…” Incredible – just truly incredible. Why would you focus first on the negative, taking it out of context of the overall picture, which is not negative when view as a whole? Surely the wins, draws and defeats are all part of one single reality? Up to a certain point, the amount of games lost has no bearing on league success; the table works on points won. You could lose 8 games and win 30, and you’d win the title. (Liverpool lost only 2 games in 2008/09, fewer than the champions, but that didn’t stop Rafa getting criticised; Liverpool were excellent that season, but sadly for us, United were slightly better.) Kempson sets the scene with talk of the top four. His entire argument, set out by that paragraph, relates to qualifying for the Champions League. So why isn’t he focusing on league form? Why is he including the Europa League, which was of little consequence last season, and cup games, which included a visit to Old Trafford as soon as the manager had stepped into the breach? You don’t qualify for the Champions League by winning cups. Liverpool, who currently sit 5th (miles away from the top four, clearly, although my maths can’t calculate the distance), have won 40 points in 22 games since Dalglish returned. Over 38 games, that would equate to 69 points. And in the history of the Premier League since four spots were available, 69 points has meant certain Champions League qualification. Let’s go back, and remind ourselves of what Kempson said: “But the facts – as yet – do not back up the blinkered idolatry.” … Except they do, if the blinkered idolatry referred to was outlined in the opening gambit. I mean, if you’re going to use facts, at least get the bloody things right. But there’s more. This is 69 points (pro rata) achieved without Steven Gerrard for all but a couple of games. It is 69 points (pro rata) achieved with an injury crisis at the end of last season, and a squad that included a mix of the sublime, the good and bad signed by Rafa, and the raft of duds signed by Hodgson, none of whom feature anymore. It included a month with no fit strikers, as Fernando Torres slung his hook. It also ignores the fact that Liverpool absolutely smothered Stoke, with the vast majority of the possession, territory, shots (11 on target to one for Stoke – the penalty) and corners, but a case when finishing, rather than tactics, let the club down. Had the incredible Luis Suarez not missed a good chance at the death – in keeping with when Steven Gerrard hit the post at 0-0 on the same ground with the last kick of the game following ‘Rafa’s rant’ – then there’d be no story here. Instead, there’s a storm. Whether or not Dalglish repays the fans’ faith and idolatry is yet to be decided. But so far, all the evidence – which Kempson refers to, but fails to correctly analyse – actually disproves the author’s own thesis. (Or, should that be, half-arsed idea scratched on the back of a fag packet?) Dalglish took over when the Reds were 12th. He took them up to 6th, and now has the team sitting 5th. Obviously this is the clear pattern of a man who doesn’t know what he’s doing – who is ruining our club while we blindly sing his praises. But it gets worse. Writing in the Guardian, Sachin Nakrani said: “…That may come as a relief to the 60-year-old [Dalglish] but for his admirers there may remain concern over his loss of temper, the sense, even, that for the second time in two decades the task of managing Liverpool is proving too great a responsibility for the club’s greatest player.” Wow. I mean, seriously. Wow. Manager loses temper after defeat and shows frustration with officials. It can only mean one thing: he’s having a nervous breakdown and cannot handle the pressure. In which case, roughly half of the Premier League’s managers have a nervous breakdown every weekend, and come May, each and every one of them therefore needs be sectioned for his (and society’s) safety. To bring up Dalglish’s post-Hillsborough stress is despicable. In the aftermath of the tragedy his management was affected, because he was still living amidst the consequences and was physically ill from the stress of having to deal with the deaths of almost 100 Liverpool fans. But 22 years have passed. If anything, the experience should now make him stronger and wiser. To any sane observer, that seems to be the case. When things aren’t going his way, Alex Ferguson rants and raves at journalists, swearing at them, and when he’s upset with his players he throws boots in their faces, but he’s just a winner, showing his winning mentality; not ‘losing the plot’ in the way that others are when they show a bit of emotion. Dalglish moans that, for the 4th game running the Reds have been denied either a penalty or an opposition red card, and he’s having some kind of mental collapse that suggests he can’t handle the job. Whether or not he is right about the refereeing decisions, he’s just doing what managers do. So, dear readers, I apologise for my optimism under Dalglish, which has seen me claim that the Reds can reach the top four under his guidance, after the nightmare of being a bottom-half team last season before his arrival. Clearly, having read this morning’s newspapers, he’s ruining Liverpool, and needs to be sacked forthwith. I hear that Roy Hodgson won a game this weekend; presumably he’s now the man for the job?

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Anyone know if myp2p.eu is up and running again? and if so what's the new address? as the old one no longer works.

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if Carroll played for Newcastle against Stoke away last season, and if so, how they got on. Obviously it's not conclusive of anything but it would possibly show if he could get any joy against them for us.

Good luck to him, hope he does well.

I'd also think Henderson will play from the start too.

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It's absolutely shocking that Wellbeck has already played for Englands full team (scored I think?) as he's looked like a terrible player when I've seen him, apart from Monday against Spurs when he played really well. But because of who he plays for he would have been selected even if he hadn't played on Monday, I believe anyway. Cleverley I know very little about and have seen play once, maybe twice. But considering how he's only just come on the scene (I know he made his debut years ago) and made any sort of claim to a place in their team, it's really silly that he's selected for England. But, may I add that I'm really happy for this to happen, and hope they play and hold onto their places ahead of say Carroll and Henderson. Not on merit of course, but because of their club. Long may it continue...

He's not ready for the first team. I bet a friend he'd be sent off before half time on Monday last week as I heard he'd be starting. He's an absolute liability right now, but if he sorts his attitude out he could be a good player. But I personally doubt he can do it, I just feel he's almost too far gone with it to rectify enough to be the really good player his ability suggests he could be. I know he's only 19 and so can develop a whole world really, but the attitude is terrible and needs curbing now.

I have actually been impressed with Henderson so far, I think his movement is really good, and he's energetic too. He's obviously a bit raw and still settling so I'm pleased with what I've seen and expect him to get much better too. Carroll I agree with most, is struggling. He looks a distance behind what he should be fitness wise, or he's simply not athletic enough. Either way I think something has to improve with him. When their defenders had the ball I was desperate for him to actually look like he would defend from the front, Ian Rush style, but didn't look interested and just plodded about, waiting for someone else in the team to win it back. Obviously he is also raw and young, but he has a hell of a way to go to justify his automatic starting place which I think he pretty much has right now. I think Adam also looked a bit sluggish and unfit maybe at times, as he was guilty of watching play when it seemed he should be running to be involved, instead of waiting for the ball/player to come within 5 yards of him. But I do have faith in him getting better/fitter, and when Gerrard returns he'll be of immense help in all aspects of Adams game for me. Kelly, for me, was man of the match. I commented during the match to my brother that you could put him up front and he'd do a job, he's such a trier, love him. Enrique had a really solid game too, and the Agger/Carragher partnership looked stronger again. Overall I'm very pleased and believe we're only going to get better.