Ronnie Whelan

Genuine question: Lovren or Julian cleary?

Loren and skrtel are fucking shocking. It says a lot about them that I yearn for Sakho to get back in the side. At least Sakho shows glimpses of being top class. Balotelli is a disgrace. At least lovren gives a fuck and I can't fault his desire. Moreno will be very good, Manquillo and Lallana will be good for us.

Everton have some excellent players like coleman and mccarthy and very good ones like Barkley and baines. They also have solid pros like jagielka and Naismith. I'd predict 7th for them. Spurs are slightly better than last season. I'd love loris.they will finish 8th. Fragile as fuck this mob. Arsenal are arsenal. The hull game is them all over. They will however finish 4th. Southampton are looking very impressive. They will not go away easily but I think they will end up 6th, just ahead of everton. United will either finish 3rd or 5th. They have some attacking talent as much as I hate saying that. Blind is a very good player and if he clicks with Herrera, then they will be a much better team than we've seen. Their defence is shocking though. If they go through these next few games with a few losses, then they could be in deep shit. If they fail to make the champions league this season, then they are in big shit. We will either come 3rd or 5th. We have been shocking this season, yet we are in 5th. Our defence can only get better (can't get worse) and if coutinho can find his form, then we will be a much stronger team. Sturridge is an outstanding striker and if he even plays half of the remaining games this season, that might be enough for us. Allen is going to be a massive player coming back into the team. It could be a big January- though whether much will be spent remains to be seen as I expect illori and origi to be big players for us in the coming years.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/10/18/photo-daniel-cleary-trains-with-liverpool-first-team/ I'm sure he's just coming in to train for experience but could he do any worse than the lads in the team.

He's just expressing what we're all thinking. Honestly, bring in a few of the young lads. They can't do any worse than Lovren, balotelli etc..

was going to say mario has the touch of a rapist but that's a bit below the belt on fellas like purple aki.

My little scamp of a grandson just said "I'm going to dress up as something that scares the hell out of you grandad this Halloween ..I asked what and he said dejan lovren.

met a few lads going into taff's tavern this morning who confirmed that Moreno is in custody for burglary on Howard Kendall's gaff last night. not sure why to be honest you wouldn't get too much silver in that gaff but I guess our Alberto must be desperate to pay off the coke tab he's run up with skrtel.

I remember reading that Keane was very good to Gary Ablett. He used to drive up to see him on Merseyside regularly from Ipswich when he was very sick.

I'm sure the wall came off worse. Dejan is a fucking big unit.

I was working on a site with a few lads from Cork down in London going back a few years. All sound lads. Anyhow, their cork mate Roy came down from Manchester to spend a few days with them and i ended up meeting the Manc cunt. Have to say he took the banter well from any of us Scousers. He really seemed to respect both scouse clubs - everton (wtf) and was saying that United will never be better than our great teams because their team and club was full of bullshitters - fair point. I do remember that he was a genuine fella and he seemed to like being around ordinary lads. I liked him.

Flanno when he comes back. I like Manquillo but ideally not to be starting too many games this season. He has good potential though.

I'd fucking love Moyesy to take over at somewhere like the barcodes and turn the Mancs over. It says a lot about how twatty they are that I sympathise with davey.

Partly right. De Gea is an excellent keeper. West Ham were wrongly denied a goal and everton were much the better side for most of the game. Good luck to the bastards because it's 6 points, but what gets me is the media fawning over them as gutsy bla bla bla whereas when we scrape a game we're in disarray.

I feel for the bloke because going on his southampton form, he's a good player, but I'm very worried that he's in a bad spiral and unless he makes it through the next few games, he'll be shipped out in the summer. As others have noted, he's very rash, lacks awareness and he seems to get caught out by players with any sort of pace. For all the pre season talk of him being a leader and a communicator, all I see is a fella who roars and shouts. we have a relatively easy run of games in the league so there's a decent shot at a few clean sheets. Fingers crossed because we really need him to come good, but I share the concerns about him. I will say in his defence that he's getting fuck all protection from the midfield and he is surrounded by a lot of new defenders.

It fucks me off big time that when United fluke wins against West Ham and the blueshite it's almost like they've just stormed the beaches of Dunkirk, while when we beat west brom we're a team in disarray. The truth is Arsenal, United and us have big big deficiencies but the two that finds their form quickest will get third and fourth. Spurs will be sixth and it's between everton and southampton for seventh.

I know a bloke from Belfast who is a mad Celtic fan who used to wear a Rangers scarf depending on the part of town he was in during the troubles. Fair enough, but if it was me i think I'd rather take my chances with the uvf, Isis or the Crips etc than wear an Everton scarf.

We will get there lads. Brendan hasn't become a clown overnight and it takes more than one man to nearly win a league. It's easy to love a team when they're playing like last season. It's much harder when the chips are down like it is right now. For me, there were more positives than negatives today. That's a small step in the right direction after the debacle of the past 4 games when we've been shocking. We were undone by a worldie. Everton even without Coleman are a good side. Lovren was decent for once and our two full backs were good, especially Moreno. Lallana was quite decent too. The next 3-4 league games should give us a few wins. A few clean sheets and goals for the new players would be ideal. We will be a different team with danny and down the line Allen coming back. I'm hopeful about Can and I think he will make a difference when he comes back from injury.

Paddy McNair will either turn out to be fucking magnificent for the cunts or he will live long in the memory of all who hate the bastards as the young fella that made West Ham look like a re-incarnation of Real in the 60s. There won't be an in between performance. With a name like that he sounds like he belongs in Roy of the Rovers. Tyler Blackett sounds like a crack dealer in Miami.

Wahey

Jesus they might as well be shooting into an open goal.

Cambiasso would have been a good signing.

Totally agree. There's still the bones of a very good side in there. It's times like this that you need old seasoned pros to guide the younger lads and the new signings through the rocky times. We have Stevie and that's it.

Lawro,Jocky,Neal and Alan Kennedy +4

We have lovren and Sakho not baresi and McGrath lad!!!