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Thank you for sharing. To the original point, Arabs are against normalisation with Israel while they continue to oppress the stateless Palestinian people. I skim read but I didn't see anything about Arabs wanting to kill all the Israeli Jews, and I don't think that's the case. From the same article: "Nonetheless, most Arabs, according to polling conducted over two decades by the Arab Barometer, would be willing to have diplomatic relations with Israel — but only after the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel. “They’re not against coexisting with a Jewish-majority Israeli state, which is what exists now, but they will not do that until the Palestinians get their rights,” Rami Khouri, a Palestinian-Jordanian journalist and a policy fellow at the American University of Beirut, told me."

Please provide a link to the article

Ok so, Hamas have been called cunts on here multiple times. We can all take it as read that they are cunts. Hamas make up around 0.02 of the population of Gaza. I don't think it needs to be questioned that killing innocent people is wrong, the actions of Hamas regardless of the history and the reasons they exist (a. The 75 years of oppression of the Palestinians( (b.supported by Israel into existence to separate the Palestinians politically so that Israel could say they don't have anyone on the other side of the table to negotiate with) were wrong, and taking hostages is wrong. We don't need to say it on here, because the media narrative overwhelmingly is staggeringly biased towards Israel and the pro-zionist agenda. Like staggeringly so to the extent it makes me personally want to scream. And that's why the internet, including forums like this are an absolute bastion to talk about what's really going on here. And what's going on is a genocide of the Palestinian people. Innocent women and children literally blown to bits. So I'm sorry but where is the need to condemn Hamas and call them cunts for the millionth time in that. There is absolutely no justification for what Israel are doing. And this isn't something that's just been happening since October 7th, this has been happening for 75 years. What is happening now though is more blatant and more violent and more in plain sight of a world that is standing by to allow that to happen. That is the reason Israel are rightly being so strongly criticised on here. I haven't considered the religious background of anyone posting in here in the content they post, and not sure why it's relevant to what is a political situation. Again, quite frankly the actions of Israel right now are demonic, they are evil. I don't think people need to demonise them. It speaks for itself. But that is not the narrative you will see when you step away from the internet and into any mainstream media. It isn't balanced. It talks of a war rather than a genocide. Im not sure why the Saudi/Yemen situation is directly relevant to Palestine/Israel but I will say that I would expect anyone to also be against the killing of innocent people anywhere. I'm also not sure why anyone should be expected to condemn the actions of a nation, it would be like continually asking you, or me, whether we condemn the killing of a million innocent people in Iraq over non existent wmds.. Of course we do, but why even ask it. This isn't directly addressed to you by the way, it's a continual narrative/theme of western attitudes towards conversations on this subject. I haven't seen one person ask an Israeli spokesperson to condemn israels actions, not one. But I have seen multiple senior Israeli political figures, senior people in government, not fringe figures, say things like "these are human animals" and those comments go uncontested! However when a Palestinians/Arab representative is interviewed they are continually asked to condemn? How is that right. Theres no equivalence there.

Based on the same logic why do you care that much? Let people post what they like (within reason) and contribute with your views rather than calling out individuals). I appreciate I'm doing the same here but purely because I actually appreciate this thread as a place to share knowledge and viewpoints rather than petty squabbles with individuals. That's all I'll say on the matter

I know Trent's seasons been a bit stop start so far but at the moment it looks like we get most of the creativity down the right from Salah and Dom, and actually the benefit of having Trent in the middle is to make us more solid defensively as he's not been making as many assists/final 3rd passes. As I say though small sample size at the moment and maybe that will change

Get the point but isn't it more illuminating that the Russian rep CAN legitimately make that point and it's a reasonable one? How can the US and its allies be any kind of respected moral authority on absolutely anything ever again? The geopolitical fallout of the absolutely disgusting rhetoric and position of the US and the UK will be huge. And this in an era where China are very colonially active and have eyes on Taiwan

I think Messi won it mainly because of the world cup. Which is fair enough in my view. Cannavaro won it in 2006 on that basis

I'd probably have shaw as sub left back, and that's literally it.

Very good again today, and Id say this was a 'quiet' game for him. Link play becoming really good too

I don't think posting about this , a real situation bears any resemblance to anti-vax or conspiracy nutjob type internet content. This is happening. And there isn't an equivalent of 'palestinians beating israelis' like this is some kind of level playing field, as they live under military occupation and apartheid

Someone should report that to the police

Nope, spurs or villa will be 4th, but way way behind arsenal in 3rd

They don't care about the geopolitical consequences because they whitewash themselves from any blame from anything, and describe the consequences of their actions as 'terrorism'. Yeah, that you created you fucking despicable evil cunts.

Definitely agree it really will work out for us long term of having had this year in the Europa and giving these young and new players game time and experience they otherwise wouldn't have had, will be invaluable

Fair point, it was semi pro footba and probably unnecessarily distracted from the point im making, but the point remains the same. He can do things most other players can't. The basics he still gets wrong will come in time. Didier drogba is a great example. He joined Chelsea at 26 and he looked a bit raw then. Look what he became. Darwin will be the absolute real deal no doubt

I'm blown away by everything Nunez did apart from that finish tbh. Not many players can ever do that in the way he did. The slotting it into the empty net aka the easy bit will come I used to play and my manager used to say I did all the hard bits easy and all the easy bits hard, and it was because I'd beat 3 players and then mess up squaring a sitter. And that was amateur level. All I can say was I got the easy bit right with experience and just calming down. Because it's so exhilarating doing the hard bit easy

Thing is only a few players can do that ever. The whole build up was like watching Fernando Torres. The finish is just classic Nunez bad luck. But fuck me what a player and what a monster we have on our hands. I fucking love this new side. There is no way Klopp can walk away from this in 2026 surely. With szobo and gravenberch 25 and 24. Nunez 26. He'd be a very generous man to let a new manager get his hands on them

There are so many disgusting things from politicians and media daily it's almost possible to keep track. I've never been a conspiracy theorist and I generally think governments are incompetent. But when it comes to geopolitics and military they're not. They're highly competent, They're exactly calculated and horrendously evil. And it overrides everything. You can't pretend to want to improve the life of poor Doris or a young person at home, or stand for anything at all really, when you knowingly ignore the equal lives of others for some bullshit global chess game

As long as Nunez starts at the weekend I don't care who we put out. I like the line up. I assume he's in to counter for lack of absolute pace with Jota and Elliott

Is this a real front page and from what day? Absolutely staggering

I get that we have 5 forwards and he's literally unstoppable off the bench but ffs Jürgen just play him every week and rotate the other 2 (Jota and Gakpo) coming on for him and Diaz. The best front three is Diaz Nunez Salah (even with Diaz out of form he makes things happen) Think the fact the other 2 are less explosive 'bench' options is counting against Darwin

The population of Israel itself is (was) very politically divided by many things, among them being the 'issue' of what to do about the Palestinians. Part of the reason why they had multiple split elections before netanyahu managed to form the current extreme right wing government. I suspect that the last 2 weeks has almost certain pushed that split further to the right sadly.

The conflict isn't a religious conflict and is a political one, as stated multiple times by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UK, Husam Zomlot. And, lets all repeat together, Hamas do not represent the Palestinian people. Hamas are not in the West Bank. Hamas were also demonstrably, factually funded and supported to exist in Gaza by Netanyahus Israeli Government specifically because he did not want a unified Palestinian Government to negotiate with, and has actively pursued a policy of effectively imprisoning the innocent 2 million human beings in Gaza (half of whom are children) because he wouldn't deal with Hamas, and actively pursuing development of settler communities in the West Bank which further erodes the originally agreed boundaries of the proposed Palestine State, whiile militarily occuping the west bank and subjecting the people there to all sorts of horrors. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. So please show us, anywhere, where any of the rhetoric or behaviour of Israel over the last 20/30 years and even more has shown any sort of inclination towards the 2 state solution and for peace. It's clear now that Netanyahu's stated policy of 'containment' has failed, and they have no desire to negotiate a peaceful solution. And so they are actively pursuing the destruction of the Palestinians, aka Genocide, all under approval of the approving US, UK and wider Western governments, while the international media absorb and feed the dehumanising propoganda what will allow them to do it, while the rest of the world turns a blind eye. But again, please do explain how Israel wants peace?

Oh and 'strontium dog' sat here saying nothing but repping and negging away is a pathetic excuse for a human being.

It's just, clearly, a lie. The fact people have spent days discussing it distracted from all the other atrocities conducted in the meantime, and politically tied the west who'd unequivocally backed Israel into a bind of backing them further. They know no bounds. They are clearly intent on the annihilation and absolute limitation of the Gazans. This is not about Hamas. The instructions to move to the south, where theyve bombed anyway, was clearly with the intent of displacing the already refugeed Gazan and either exiling them for good into Egypt, or forcing them into an even smaller corner. If they're allowed to get away with it, they're taking that northern gazan land and the Palestinians are never getting it back. Furthermore netanyahus whole future depends on this. He's led the principle of not actually negotiating for a 2 state but 'containing' them. It's been proven it doesn't work as long as they live in any substantial number. So he wants to solve that 'problem' Unless the west see sense to actually stop them, they're going to go in and kill anything on sight