Mudface

Yes, you should...

Well, you'd better get on to King's College, the Scottish and Welsh governments, the NHS, the DHSC and God knows how many other departments and bodies that analyse or supply data with your devastating revelations as I'm sure no one will have considered that and corrected for it.

I'd send it to Zoe, I'm sure they'll be astounded at their obvious error.

What? I don't run the damn thing, if you want the methodology, you'd need to contact them and see if they're willing to share their models. And no, the symptoms are not the same. If you respond that you feel ill on the app during the daily check in, it asks you a list of 20 or so questions about your symptoms and also whether or not you've had a Covid test- I posted these earlier in the thread when you were casting shade on it last time. Again, I don't run it, but I'd be pretty sure it then calculates a probability of the person having Covid based on previous responses correlated against swab test data and then uses that in aggregate to provide its headline figures. As ever, the actual figures are less important than the trend, which is clearly up by any metric.

The symptoms are different. The app data is combined with swab data to estimate probabilities. Groundhog day this.

It. Is. Not. Colds. Even the guy who runs the project was on TV last week explaining that if you have a runny nose and are sneezing, you don't have Covid.

My missus heard it on the radio- I was upstairs working. She yelped and legged it up to tell me- she doesn't even follow football and she was delighted because my gloom instantly dissipated. Bit different to when Kenny went for the first time- I was working in the lab and my prof came through to tell me. The experiment didn't go too well that afternoon.

Come off what? There are 12 million people over the age of 65 alone in the UK. That's before you start counting other potentially vulnerable groups as outlined in Rico's list, then add in the people they live with or care for them. 20 million is probably an underestimate.

What end goal? You'd be trying to keep something like 20 million potentially vulnerable people 'safe' while the virus runs rampant through everyone else. Exactly, get the definition wrong and it'd be a disaster. Plus you'd have to consider all the people someone 'vulnerable' lived with- either they'd have to be separated, or kept isolated too.

But... that's pretty much what would happen if you decided to isolate vulnerable groups and let everyone get on with stuff, only on a much bigger scale.

He dodged them pretty well.

Another victim of a vegetarian diet.

The only reason to keep the 3 employees in that guy's case, is to get the job retention bonus at the end of January- https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/job-retention-bonus/job-retention-bonus It's just kicking the can down the road though, instead of an October furlough end cliff edge, you've now got this instead.

I wonder if that applies to the Scottish one that was released a few weeks ago. I haven't seen anyone complaining about the same problem.

That's an even scarier thought than the dark itself...

I'm really worried about it, I finished Netflix last night, and am down to Supernatural on Amazon Prime. The long nights are going to be really grim here- it goes dark by 3:45 in mid-Winter and the sun doesn't rise until well after 8 am, it's bad enough 'normally' without a feeling of being trapped.

Well, he has already sold off £5 million worth of shares when he resigned as president of Glaxo to take up his current role. If he's playing a con, he's not doing it very well, especially as there's no guarantee that the GSK vaccine will come to fruition. He does need to sell off the remainder and appear squeaky clean though, there's enough conspiracy swirling about vaccines as it is.

It's an exciting mix of the innovation of Hodgson, with a dash of Rafa's flair backed up by the defensive steel of a Rodgers side. Heady stuff.

Arf.

Pretty well judged from Starmer- condemnatory of the useless crooks we've got in power but constructive too.

Ah. Well, that sucks. I thought the first series was a little patchy, especially when she- - but the first couple of episodes in series 2 were much better. Oh well, I've no problem dropping series when I'm not enjoying them.

Well, they've both doubled in little more than a week after being pretty steady since about the start of August.

It's the trend though, rather than the absolute figures. Numbers of positive cases aren't directly comparable to back then as we were testing far fewer people, but hospitalisations and patients on ventilators are rising rapidly. As we saw in March, things can get out of hand really quickly if action isn't taken quickly enough and yesterday's tinkering doesn't look anywhere near sufficient.