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QUOTE] The manager has not been sacked. Your mate Purslow thinks he has Liverpool sack manager Rafa Benitez - MirrorFootball.co.uk Bascombe will have his number, txt him to check

I know the two players in question can't wait to shove it right up you and the rest. I suppose they will still be reds by August now the manager has gone to the reigning European Champions seeing as it was him or them?

The conference call ended with no agreement reached as Rafa's side rejected the offers on the table from the club. He has not been sacked, but its only a matter of how much Rafa will accept. The board at LFC do not want him to continue and have told him this. Was that followed by Rafa rubbing his hands?

Whats next?

The State of Liverpool FC – An Idiots Guide While "senior sources" at the club (Christan Purslow) try to facilitate a smear campaign against the manager, pretend everything is rosy at the club and briefs the press to headline the Rick Parry pay off on the day the club's financials are tactically released on election results day; here's what's really going on at Liverpool Football Club: The figures released on Friday 8th May 2010 indicate that Liverpool FC is in net debt to the tune of £351m; an increase of £52m from last year’s figure. A total of £233.996m is owed to RBS, in addition to an inter-company loan of £144.441m owed to “Kop Cayman”; a company owned by Gillett and Hicks based in the Cayman Island for tax reasons; a company that have loaned Liverpool FC £144.441m at an interest rate of 10%. This is the “own money” that Gillett and Hicks claim to have put into the club. In reality, they’re just charging the club 10% interest for lending that money through an offshore limited liability company that they aren’t even personally liable for – Liverpool FC are. Liverpool FC are not paying the interest off on that £144.4m however. It is being charged as a “compound interest”, meaning the interest isn’t paid, but is instead “rolled up” to the grand total. For example, this year (if I’ve got this right): £144.4m @ 10% interest = £14.44m payable this year. Instead of paying that £14.44m, it is rolled onto the total making the outstanding debt owed to Kop Cayman £158.88m. The following year this is then charged at a further 10% interest: £158.88m @ 10% interest = £15.88m payable next year. Instead of paying that £15.88m, it is rolled onto the total making the outstanding debt owed to Kop Cayman £174.76m. The following year this is then charged at a further 10% interest: £174.76m @ 10% interest = £17.76m payable next year. Instead of paying that £17.76m, it is rolled onto the total making the outstanding debt owed to Kop Cayman £192.52m etc etc etc... The debt soon spirals out of control, as you can see; and don’t forget, this only concerns the £144.4m owed to Gillett and Hick’s Cayman Islands company – it doesn’t concern the huge £234m owed to RBS. The financial figures released last week are for the 2008/09 season. Those figures declare the club made a loss of around £52m for that year, due to the interest repayments on the loans and another £22m spent on the new ground; on what that was spent on we have no idea. There’s nothing to show for it anyway – and the total spend on the new ground now exceeds £50m. To put that into perspective – Sunderland managed to build the 48,000 seat Stadium of Light for a lot less than that. We have a few fences up at the back of the Anfield Road End! Anyway – we made a loss of £52m that year despite finishing 2nd in the league and reaching the latter stages of the Champions League. The accounts also declared a profit made on player transfers (despite Purslow telling us we don’t need to sell players to balance the books and service debt, and Rafa being accused of wasting millions on players – the accounts prove otherwise). What are next year’s figures (which will reflect the financial state we’re in today) going to look like with a 7th place league finish and an early elimination from the Champions League? We will also have an increased debt to service as explained above. Then what about the figures for the next financial year when there’s no Champions League money at all coming in? While the current owners are in place, we are going to continue to fall further and further into debt. We cannot meet the repayments on the loan as it stands now, and with our revenue due to fall with the lack of Champions League football, we’re on the brink of going into administration. Anyone with hopes of making any signings in the summer or any future transfer windows needs a reality check. We are going to be very lucky to be hold onto the players we’ve got, never mind being able to bring anybody else in. Gerrard and Torres don’t want to leave because they don’t like the manager (Purslow is feeding this story to the media to whip up the “Rafa Out campaign”); they want to leave as they know there is zero chance of any new players of any quality arriving at the club in its current state. They also know there’s zero chance of any top class manager coming to the club if Benitez decides to walk or is pushed; no manager worth his salt would come to work at the club under these conditions. They know the club is only going one way. Until Gillett and Hicks are removed from the club, we’re only going to decline. It really is as simple as that. Nothing else matters. And remember – these debts haven’t been accumulated through overspending in trying to buy success and compete like was the case at Portsmouth, Leeds and various other clubs – they are entirely generated through debt loaded onto the club just so Gillett and Hicks can own us and bleed us dry with expense claims, management fees, arrangement fees for every refinance deal and wasting over £50m of the club’s money on a non-existent new stadium. This isn’t the result of bad individual club management as Richard Scudamore of The Premier League claims; it is the result of a leveraged buyout that has loaded the cost of buying the club onto the club to repay. Something The Premier League, The FA, UEFA and FIFA should be doing everything in their power to prevent ever happening again. 2007: £44m debt (£3m per year to service) 2008: £350m debt (£36.5m per year to service) 2009: £378m debt (£40m per year to service) 2010: ??? Those are the levels of debt on the club, with it being only £44m before Gillett and Hicks bought the club. Therefore the club’s profits were able to be invested back into the squad, allowing us to compete on the pitch. We’re now crippled by debts we cannot service, when that £40m leaving the club each year in interest repayments should be being spent on new players. £76.5m has left the club in interest repayments alone in the past 2 years – and in that time – the manager has not spent a single penny on new players. It’s been a sell to buy policy, with profits being made on transfers in the past few transfer windows as the books needed to be balanced; all while the clubs around us are spending to strengthen. How can we be expected to compete under those conditions? The debt is growing with every passing day. As a result of the lack of investment in the squad (as well as bad luck with injuries / poor decisions / players out of form etc), we’re paying the price on the field with declining performances which will therefore reduce the club’s revenue even further – giving us even less money to service increasing debts. A vicious circle. It’s unsustainable. Liverpool FC is paying £110,000 every single day in interest repayments to service a debt we should never have in the first place. That’s £110,000 a day of the club’s money that me and you generate, that we should be seeing spent on new players or developing the club; instead – we are standing back and watching the club being raped in front of our very eyes. YANKS OUT! Cheers BHB

The State of Liverpool FC – An Idiots Guide While "senior sources" at the club (Christan Purslow) try to facilitate a smear campaign against the manager, pretend everything is rosy at the club and briefs the press to headline the Rick Parry pay off on the day the club's financials are tactically released on election results day; here's what's really going on at Liverpool Football Club: The figures released on Friday 8th May 2010 indicate that Liverpool FC is in net debt to the tune of £351m; an increase of £52m from last year’s figure. A total of £233.996m is owed to RBS, in addition to an inter-company loan of £144.441m owed to “Kop Cayman”; a company owned by Gillett and Hicks based in the Cayman Island for tax reasons; a company that have loaned Liverpool FC £144.441m at an interest rate of 10%. This is the “own money” that Gillett and Hicks claim to have put into the club. In reality, they’re just charging the club 10% interest for lending that money through an offshore limited liability company that they aren’t even personally liable for – Liverpool FC are. Liverpool FC are not paying the interest off on that £144.4m however. It is being charged as a “compound interest”, meaning the interest isn’t paid, but is instead “rolled up” to the grand total. For example, this year (if I’ve got this right): £144.4m @ 10% interest = £14.44m payable this year. Instead of paying that £14.44m, it is rolled onto the total making the outstanding debt owed to Kop Cayman £158.88m. The following year this is then charged at a further 10% interest: £158.88m @ 10% interest = £15.88m payable next year. Instead of paying that £15.88m, it is rolled onto the total making the outstanding debt owed to Kop Cayman £174.76m. The following year this is then charged at a further 10% interest: £174.76m @ 10% interest = £17.76m payable next year. Instead of paying that £17.76m, it is rolled onto the total making the outstanding debt owed to Kop Cayman £192.52m etc etc etc... The debt soon spirals out of control, as you can see; and don’t forget, this only concerns the £144.4m owed to Gillett and Hick’s Cayman Islands company – it doesn’t concern the huge £234m owed to RBS. The financial figures released last week are for the 2008/09 season. Those figures declare the club made a loss of around £52m for that year, due to the interest repayments on the loans and another £22m spent on the new ground; on what that was spent on we have no idea. There’s nothing to show for it anyway – and the total spend on the new ground now exceeds £50m. To put that into perspective – Sunderland managed to build the 48,000 seat Stadium of Light for a lot less than that. We have a few fences up at the back of the Anfield Road End! Anyway – we made a loss of £52m that year despite finishing 2nd in the league and reaching the latter stages of the Champions League. The accounts also declared a profit made on player transfers (despite Purslow telling us we don’t need to sell players to balance the books and service debt, and Rafa being accused of wasting millions on players – the accounts prove otherwise). What are next year’s figures (which will reflect the financial state we’re in today) going to look like with a 7th place league finish and an early elimination from the Champions League? We will also have an increased debt to service as explained above. Then what about the figures for the next financial year when there’s no Champions League money at all coming in? While the current owners are in place, we are going to continue to fall further and further into debt. We cannot meet the repayments on the loan as it stands now, and with our revenue due to fall with the lack of Champions League football, we’re on the brink of going into administration. Anyone with hopes of making any signings in the summer or any future transfer windows needs a reality check. We are going to be very lucky to be hold onto the players we’ve got, never mind being able to bring anybody else in. Gerrard and Torres don’t want to leave because they don’t like the manager (Purslow is feeding this story to the media to whip up the “Rafa Out campaign”); they want to leave as they know there is zero chance of any new players of any quality arriving at the club in its current state. They also know there’s zero chance of any top class manager coming to the club if Benitez decides to walk or is pushed; no manager worth his salt would come to work at the club under these conditions. They know the club is only going one way. Until Gillett and Hicks are removed from the club, we’re only going to decline. It really is as simple as that. Nothing else matters. And remember – these debts haven’t been accumulated through overspending in trying to buy success and compete like was the case at Portsmouth, Leeds and various other clubs – they are entirely generated through debt loaded onto the club just so Gillett and Hicks can own us and bleed us dry with expense claims, management fees, arrangement fees for every refinance deal and wasting over £50m of the club’s money on a non-existent new stadium. This isn’t the result of bad individual club management as Richard Scudamore of The Premier League claims; it is the result of a leveraged buyout that has loaded the cost of buying the club onto the club to repay. Something The Premier League, The FA, UEFA and FIFA should be doing everything in their power to prevent ever happening again. 2007: £44m debt (£3m per year to service) 2008: £350m debt (£36.5m per year to service) 2009: £378m debt (£40m per year to service) 2010: ??? Those are the levels of debt on the club, with it being only £44m before Gillett and Hicks bought the club. Therefore the club’s profits were able to be invested back into the squad, allowing us to compete on the pitch. We’re now crippled by debts we cannot service, when that £40m leaving the club each year in interest repayments should be being spent on new players. £76.5m has left the club in interest repayments alone in the past 2 years – and in that time – the manager has not spent a single penny on new players. It’s been a sell to buy policy, with profits being made on transfers in the past few transfer windows as the books needed to be balanced; all while the clubs around us are spending to strengthen. How can we be expected to compete under those conditions? The debt is growing with every passing day. As a result of the lack of investment in the squad (as well as bad luck with injuries / poor decisions / players out of form etc), we’re paying the price on the field with declining performances which will therefore reduce the club’s revenue even further – giving us even less money to service increasing debts. A vicious circle. It’s unsustainable. Liverpool FC is paying £110,000 every single day in interest repayments to service a debt we should never have in the first place. That’s £110,000 a day of the club’s money that me and you generate, that we should be seeing spent on new players or developing the club; instead – we are standing back and watching the club being raped in front of our very eyes. YANKS OUT! Cheers BHB

BBC Sport - Football - Rooney is PFA player of the year Wayne Rooney has been voted player of the year by his peers in the Professional Footballers' Association. The Manchester United striker, who has scored 34 goals this season, beat off competition from Didier Drogba, Carlos Tevez and Cesc Fabregas. Rooney, 24, said: "It's a great feeling to win because it's voted for by the players. It's a great honour and I'm really proud." The young player of the year award was won by Aston Villa's James Milner. Rooney has blossomed at Old Trafford this season after the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez. He has played in a more advanced role than in previous seasons and has added powerful heading ability to his overall game. But he injured ankle ligaments in the first leg of United's Champions League quarter-final against Bayern Munich, and missed Saturday's 1-0 win over Tottenham with a groin injury sustained in trail Do you think Rooney has been the best player this season? However, Rooney insisted he will be fit for the World Cup and indeed hopes to play in United's last league game, against Stoke. "The groin will be fine for the World Cup, there are no worries about that," he said. "I'm hoping to play for United in the last game of the season. "I remember coming here in 2005 and 2006 to win the young player of the year award. I saw the players winning the main one and it's something I've aimed for since." The striker paid tribute to United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and the influence he has had on his career. "Sir Alex is a great manager who has really brought me on as a player since I joined United. His hunger passes through to the players. "It's great to see that he's pushing 70 and he hasn't changed a bit. I'm sure he'll be at United a long time yet." I'm very proud to get such an award Lucas Radebe Rooney was also nominated for the young player award but Milner, also 24, was voted winner. A string of fine performances and an ability to play in a number of positions have made him a front-runner for a position in Fabio Capello's squad for the World Cup. Milner said: "I've been moved into the middle and that suits me as it helps me influence the game a bit more. Sometimes when you are wide on the right you can't get yourself into it." Former Leeds and South Africa defender Lucas Radebe, 41, won the PFA Merit Award. "Sport can change the world. Football has played such a big part in lifting my community," he said. "I'm very proud to get such a great award." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Premier League team of the year: Joe Hart (Man City, Birmingham on loan), Branislav Ivanovic (Chelsea), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Richard Dunne (Aston Villa), Patrice Evra (Man Utd), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), James Milner (Aston Villa), James Fletcher (Man Utd), Antonio Valencia (Man Utd), Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), Didier Drogba (Chelsea).

Never want us to loose. But, Who wants to see the little welsh cunt with a league winners medal. C'mon Fwank, JT and the boys!!!!

"But Torres, 26, believes Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez's ruthless streak has improved him as a player - despite the team falling far short of their usual standards this year. He admitted that even his best performances for the Reds have not always been enough to satisfy the Anfield chief. "The difference between him and my other managers is that when I was at Atletico I was always over-protected. "They didn't ask so much of me," he said. "Here, Rafa demands a lot and I have to live up to expectations. Some players need to be spoilt and other players like me need to always be pushed, and to have more asked of us. "If I score twice in a game I want to hear that I played badly to help me do even better next time. "Rafa is ruthless and sometimes it is tiring but he knows the right way to deal with me. "I have put in a lot of effort but you always need someone who brings the best out in you, someone who is very demanding. "If Rafa had not been here I would never have come. He has taught me a lot and he has helped me go beyond my limits and to be the player I am today." No wonder he has lost the dressing room, Fat Spanish Cunt, Man management is shite. No wonder Sami left.

No need to panic as most on here hate watching us so spares all over Hamburg as they wont be going. I will happily take anyones ticket who has one but doesnt want to watch the fat spanish waiter ruin our good name before leaving and allowing St Jose to ride in and save this doomed team. Just let me know your price Cheers

Cheers

I did, and still do. Im not arsed, I will take anyones tickets. Your the one who wont sell me any you may have.

I dont understand most of what you say as it normally comes out of your arse but fair enough. Plenty of other options.

You justify it however you feel best. Im not arsed in the why is he buying Crouch he shit/ Why is he selling Crouch he boss arguments on here and I admire those I mentioned for their perseverence. I get the impression you and the other ART members wont be in Hamburg should we get there. If not can I buy your tickets? Cheers Kevin

This is where I stopped reading. Just reading makes me laugh. At what point duringnest season do we change from backing him to the shite Rafa gets now?

Sadly he will be sacked. As will the next one next year and the one the year after that.

2/3 yrs away from them singing sings about Hillsborough at every game they play. Look at these bitter inbred cunts on here Utterly disgusting!

Ace banner. 25 yrs of listening to them playing the victim. Listen to them. Crying like bitches because we have finally answered them. It was designed to wind them up. It did. Just like singing 1-0 to the murderers does. Fuck them

As always I am focusing on supporting our manager

I went to school with Tom Ross. He was alright to be fair although never in our gang he was ok for a nerd. We never really seen him after about 4th year because there was a bad rumour that he was caught fingering his sister at the Leisure Centre. You know how these things start and grow with kids but he just disappeared. He used to get stick because he ripped his kecks in the old Kop against Charlton and had bad bad skid marks but the sister one just killed him and he never bothered with school again. Last I knew he was refused entry to the Kings because of some back injury – Probably off the barriers in the Kop.

Coop- Are we this fucked?

Sat next to Dominic West & Jimmy McGovern in the Main Stand last night. Dominic West looked bored. Said "Alright Jimmy" to him in a sad groupie kind of way and he smiled nodded in a "Do one Dickhead" kind of way Footy on the General - Will you cope?

Yeah I did. Its the first one i have done. I clicked edit tags and type it out. It said i can add 2 tags? So there