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A Few Thoughts from the Match: Liverpool 1 Burnley 1

1. Sigh.

 

*Be positive, be positive, be positive*

 

2. Salah is a cracking signing: pace, touch, movement, goals. Is right.

3. We played some decent stuff in the first half.

 

4. Erm...

 

5. I accept that we need to rotate this season, but seven changes? And why not make The Ox one of them? £40m surely gets you a start versus Burnley.

 

6. Not that the bench was relevant until there was almost no point. The game had died for us in an attacking sense at least twenty minutes before the subs even warmed up. Why not make a bolder change, sooner?

 

7. Our defending is unacceptable. How does a former centre half coach amazing attacking football while failing to effect any change whatsoever in our defending?

 

8. Joel Matip was soft as, throughout. Everyone gives it loads about Lovren and Klavan, but how is this bloke any better?

 

9. I've had just about enough of Klopp berating the fans. Jurgen - we get it: you think we're knob 'eds. Carry on like this though and you'll see the feeling become rapidly mutual. The goodwill drains audibly with every touch line tantrum you throw at your own fans. This is your team playing your football. If you don't like the way we react to Groundhog Day matches, change something.

 

10. By my reckoning we had four corner takers today. That tells you everything you need to know about both their quality and the importance placed upon them by the manager.

 

11. Despite the drudgery of recent results, it's right to remember that our general trajectory and current situation is good. It feels hard though after a 5-0 beating and two weak draws that exhibited all the same old problems.

 

12. We need to break out of this cycle of getting loads of chances but only taking one or two, while simultaneously conceding from only one or two shots on target. This is fundamental stuff and anyone not concerned by it is just not paying attention.

 

13. I really respect Klopp's commitment to the long term and also to player development, but he needs to get this season bouncing - and quickly. A bit of short-termisn wouldn't go amiss in that regard: get a full strength side out against Leicester for both games because things will get hairy if we see another 180 minutes of the same old same old.

 

Paul Natton

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Except kicking it long was giving it back to them and only a fucking retard could not see that.

 

I was in the KD stand upper, and there have been a few cunts by me all season. I've given my ticket up for Saturday, i've had enough.

 

Kicking it long may have conceed possession but with sturridge and solanke up front, you'd kind of hope they'd make a challenge. And taking a short goal kick with burnley pushed up wouldnt have been the best option. Funny it was virtually the whole Kop giving it out too but never mind.

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I fully expect the moaning to reach 11 if Rafa leaves Newcastle! I'm sure Jim Boredom is writing his column for the Daily Mirror as we speak.

 

To think, we were the width of a post away from winning these past two games.

 

Yes but when you point that out to some on here they just come out with a load of stuff about should have scored instead.

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Kicking it long may have conceed possession but with sturridge and solanke up front, you'd kind of hope they'd make a challenge. And taking a short goal kick with burnley pushed up wouldnt have been the best option. Funny it was virtually the whole Kop giving it out too but never mind.

Solanke only came on late! This was when it was just Sturridge. They were fine, we pannicked.

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I never said anyone is berating the players for the full 90 minutes. Surely no fan in his right mind would do that. I said some fans berate the players DURING the 90 minutes. If my grasp of the English language is not bad this could mean berating players at any time during the 90 minutes ... even once.

 

 

Watcha talking 'bout Willis? I've heard far better players than we currently have getting slated by our fans ever since I started going.  You pay your money, you're entitled to voice an opinion.

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Solanke only came on late! This was when it was just Sturridge. They were fine, we pannicked.

 

The kick it long incident was in added time! That's why loads in the ground were giving it large over them trying to take a short kick. You sure you were at the game!?

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The kick it long incident was in added time! That's why loads in the ground were giving it large over them trying to take a short kick. You sure you were at the game!?

Not the one I was referring to.

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  You pay your money, you're entitled to voice an opinion.

 

This is just silly reasoning. You're entitled to voice an opinion that is counterproductive to the very reason you go the game? 

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This is just silly reasoning. You're entitled to voice an opinion that is counterproductive to the very reason you go the game? 

 

 

it's not silly reasoning, it's a fact, and it's been happening certainly since I started going regularly in the 1970s.  People have always gone "oh for fucks sake Moreno/Lucas/Ruddock/Robinson/Wark/etc", and they always will.  

 

Surely if you have never even been to a game, you can sort of see how that might happen.

 

Booing is different.  I  have never booed a Liverpool player or team.  Or even manager. 

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Then by thunder we disagree good sir.

 

You cunt : ).

 

Seriously, the only time I heard any vocal noise about a short goal kick was in added time. Id agree that you'd probably lose possession with a long kick but that late in the game and with them pushed right up on the defenders, it would have been the wrong choice.

 

Overall, although the atmos wasnt great, the crowd tried to lift the team through the game. That's why Im surprised about this repeated having a go at the Main stand by klopp stuff. But like I say, I dont sit there and dont make a habit of seeing if klopp is encouraging the team or berating fans.

 

Again, like ive said, klopp wants unity between the fans, team and club. He's trying to change the mentality like with his believers comments.

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 After ignoring Robertson for the entire 1st half, Coutinho passed to him early in the 2nd and there were some ironic cheers. A minute later he did it again and there were louder ironic cheers, as people who hadn't joined in the first one realised what had happened. Klopp went mad at the fans behind him.

That's quite a surprising level of cynicism to me. Is that common at other teams from supporters? Don't see how it's helpful at all. Would also imagine supporters that cranky would never be short of things to moan about.

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That's quite a surprising level of cynicism to me. Is that common at other teams from supporters? Don't see how it's helpful at all. Would also imagine supporters that cranky would never be short of things to moan about.

 

 

happens everywhere.

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The one and only one I heard and was talking about was.

 

The one when Klopp went mad was well before that. Probably about 20 mins to go, but I'm guessing there. That'll be the one Jockey is referring to.

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it's not silly reasoning, it's a fact, and it's been happening certainly since I started going regularly in the 1970s.  People have always gone "oh for fucks sake Moreno/Lucas/Ruddock/Robinson/Wark/etc", and they always will.  

 

Surely if you have never even been to a game, you can sort of see how that might happen.

 

Booing is different.  I  have never booed a Liverpool player or team.  Or even manager. 

 

Whatever you say, chief. Agree to disagree. Things will never improve this way.

 

The entitlement of old upper and middle-class people is the problem here. Get some youth in, especially poor youth, and Anfield could be turned into a cauldron. 

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Whatever you say, chief. Agree to disagree. Things will never improve this way.

 

The entitlement of old upper and middle-class people is the problem here. Get some youth in, especially poor youth, and Anfield could be turned into a cauldron. 

 

 

I'm only telling you what has happened since time immemorial. And it wasn't the 'entitled' that were doing the moaning then, it was meffs like me.  But not me, obv, as I'm a superfan.

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