jimmycase

You see this is what I dont get in the real world. People seem to think all deals happen and dont take into account the realities in negotiations. Sure, Id love it if the club could click its fingers and all deals happen. Im not a pessimistic kind of person so, I believe things will always pick up. If people want to take the view that things wont, well dont be surprised when that happens. Just depends on people's outlook I guess. Look, as for the mancs they already had one of the world's top keepers. They also spunked £89m of pogba, he doesnt look too clever for that kind of money to me. They have had rashford come through the ranks. He looks like sturridge of a few years ago, give him sight of goal and he'll score. Lukaku is in a hot vein of form for them rightnow. But, he'll go through a spell when he cant hit a barn door as well. We keep going over this 'only van dijk' stuff. How many more times? Klopp saw him as the man not his 2nd, 3rd or 4th shite like we've had before. The deal was virtually done and dusted until someone fucked it up. I mean for fuck's sake, if it wasnt for that he'd be here. He isnt but we allknow the reasons why. Im fucking sick to the back teeth of lFC signing 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice players and if we have to put up with some short term pain until we do sign van dijk or another target in january, its what we have to do, no point fucking moaning about it continually.

Dunno, fluke a few wins, hopefully!

Yeah and if you remember, we tried to sign van dijk, keita and lemar. But some dastardly plan by FSG was just to con the fans into thinking that. United also bought lukaku who plenty of here derided when he was at the shite. Not even like the shite would have sold him to us, is it?

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All very true but shows how fine the line is between winning and not. Sure we needed a penalty save against Leicester but you then have to say shit lino \ ref decision cost us 3 points against Watford plus Gini another couple of inches scores instead of coming back off the post.

Exactly this. Have to admit, Im not confident about beating the mancs right now but there's always hope as far as Im concerned.

Here we go, 'it's his 3rd season in charge.' He hasnt been here 2 full years yet! Look, if you cant see the improvement Klopp has brought about at the club and are prepared t dismiss all that due to a run of poor results, knock yourself out. That's exactly how I expect a superfans to react. The fact of the matter is, we're still creating chances and if sturridge, salah and wijnaldum had of put his shot 6" to the left, we'd have scored 2. Klopp cant put the ball in the net, players have to do that. It's funny, Ive seen us play some fantastic football under all managers and get beaten more than 1 in a league game. Ive seen us play shit and come away with 3 points many a time. Ive seen us get lucky and draw when we probably should have got beat. All during poor runs of form. Form is temporary, class is permanent. But Im a superfan. Ha, ha, fucking ha. Football's a game where sometimes you dont get what you deserve. Its what happens. So, you dig deep, draw in the wagons if you need to and keep trying hard.

Yep. It's not like Klopp can score when the forwards miss chances, the same as he cant clear a ball when the defence makes a mistake.

You've been called a cunt on here by others so I'll just let them speak for me there.

Bang on this. There's a reason shit clubs like palace, watford and a few others are shit and get shit managers. It's because they bin the manager off quickly. It's the 'superfans' like you that are doing all the wailing. 1 league defeat and yes some draws. But to 'superfans' like you, that's a mega crisis and one where questions have to be asked of the manager's tenure.

Haha. That your best shot? Im not the 'superfan' running around losing my head over a run of results that's seen us lose once at man city in a 10 v 11 and our second string against leicester's second string in a competition the Football League doesnt give a toss about. You were saying 'superfan'?

Haha. Have a read of that again. Im only surprised you didnt throw the 'superfan' thing in. Thing is, the 'superfans' are the dickwads running around and losing their heads as if the sky has fallen in. Cunts like you are the very reason papers are running stories that Klopp is 'under pressure.' The same people who post 'I dont want Klopp gone but.......' The thing is this, Klopp under pressure, the pressure mounts then cunts start posting wanting his head. He goes and someone comes in (cue calls for simone, ancelotti or even benitez again). Then they get less than 2 fucking years to get us in the top 4 and when they fail, they're out on their arse and the next one comes in. Only by this time, the likes of Eddie Howe and the like are the only managers to consider the roles because any top, top manager goes, some of those Liverpool fans will be on my back in 18 months, fuck that, I'll give it a swerve thanks. You fucking muppet. Call yourself a Liverpool fan? You've been 'supporting' the club for 2 fucking minutes and think you know all the answers. You know jack shit.

Or the fact that people think opposing players maybe arent capable of a bit of skill here and there and may actually beat one of our players at some point during a game.

Only to dickheads who want a full sea change in under 2 years but what fucking ever. And it proves your complete lack of understanding of this club.

Yeah because our defence and team is currently full of English players, isnt it?

Benitez settled for a point yesterday. At least Klopp tried to win the game.

Your argument about no better players than mignolet, henderson etc, etc falls down because as soon as they come here, they get fucking slaughtered from the first mistake. Look at the criticism Salah has taken from some despite 6 or 7 goals and only being here since the start of the season. Its virtually fucking nailled on that when Naby Keita starts next season and makes his first mistake, some will be going 'he's fucking shite, why did we buy him?'

Understand the frustration, Im frustrated with the results too. But Klopp hasnt become a bad manager overnight. As Dave says, the attack is as culpable as the defence. Watch sturridge for that chance Dave mentions, he snatches the shot. Its almost an air shot and he just gets a slight contact at the end but, he's supposed to be lethal yet misses that. And I still dont get why our back 4 was so advanced, again, late into the 2nd half. We've got both fullbacks and both CB's either well into the Newcastle half or 12 yards over the halfway line. I actually thought we started this game the same as we did just over 2 years ago when they beat us 2-0. No urgency, no pressing and giving them space. We cant change personel so its pretty pointless bitch about this player or that player. But, some of them need to take a long hard look at themselves. Chris on Redmen TV made a good point on Newcastle's goal. Neither Lovren or Matip put their arms up to call for offside. The lino might have kept his flag down but on a decision that close, Im expecting players like them to be calling every break like that. During the game, Klopp was clearly incensed at some of the things his players were not doing so despite what he's saying in public to defend the players, he's clearly letting them know in private that he's not happy with some of their shit.

Fuck's sake. And I thought we played Spartak Moscow not cska?

How did it take Shankly to get the club out of the 2nd Division again? Just over 3 years wasnt it? Fucking clown.

So why did Bayern sack him then!?

So is ancelotti not world class now because he couldnt get results this season at Bayern?

Seeing as we're in a slump, it's not surprising a number of players arent performing. Gini was poor in the game but wasnt it his shot that came back off the post in the first half?

Just because staveley was there, doesnt mean an oil sheikh is buying the club. The talk pre game was about chinese investment and not a buy out of ashley.

Well, they're fucking nuts then.