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Yes justice for all is a key Liverpool trait - except when certain cretins are proudly waving their "Steaua Burcharest 86" banners at matches in a quite loathsome display of contempt for any sense of decency. Why Liverpool fans should Kop the flak for their tasteless Bucharest banner - Simon Mullock column - Simon Mullock - MirrorFootball.co.uk

Seriously do the one-eyed mob here think it is some sort of 'ontological impossibility' that Liverpool players can behave badly? Is there anything that Suarez could do that would be dubbed unacceptable? Do you really buy into the notion that he was just having some 'jolly' banter? If anyone at work said to a black person "go away I don't talk to blacks" they would, in all probability, be fired.

I loathe the Daily Mail but my God it did need saying by someone. Patrick Collins: Kenny Dalglish needs a few home truths¿ not more flattery | Mail Online When Chelsea have the moral high-ground over us (in the public mind) you know it's a fucking PR disaster but then KK's judgment isn't great: he is alleged to bring notorious drug-dealers and other seriously criminal types to important meetings to 'make a point'. And look up who he used for 'personal security' whilst at Celtic as director of football/manager.

You didn't make it to the end of the report. We received expert evidence as to the use of the word "negro" in Uruguay and other areas of Latin America. It is often used as a noun to address people, whether family, friends or passers-by, and is widely seen as inoffensive. However, its use can also be offensive. It depends on the context. It is inoffensive when its use implies a sense of rapport or the attempt to create such rapport. However, if it were used, for example, with a sneer, then it might carry negative connotations. The Spanish language experts told us that if Mr Suarez said the things that Mr Evra alleged, they would be considered racially offensive in Uruguay and other regions of Latin America (paragraphs 162 to 202 above). All of which is exactly what my other half, who is Latin American but doesn't give much of a shit about either Luis Suarez or Patrice Evra, told me some weeks ago when I asked her for the perspective of a native speaker.

No I am a realist that is sick of the club I love being a long-standing joke! God himself could have signed Carroll for £35 million and it would still have been a totally dumb move.

KK bought 'the shit' in the first place for a unbelievably high price - worst signing ever in terms of quality versus cost.

To be honest is this not a PR disaster? Kenny is a walking PR disaster. It was pretty much always the case, but he got away with it early in his management career because he was invariably winning. The other person who comes out of this fairly poorly is the owner. There are two ways he could have contained this PR nightmare, either step in himself early and take the path of least resistance - dampen down the bad news with an apology, it was all a cultural misunderstanding thing - and hardly anyone would even be talking about it now. Meanwhile you quietly appeal the length of the ban and the FA shortens it because you have shown penitence for the crime and are sending out the right signal. If you do not want to get involved in this personally then you make sure you put in place a senior management structure at the club to handle it for you. A structure that has a strong communications head and a manager with strict instructions that any actions or comments he makes on this subject have to be signed off by the PR guy. Dalglish is doing what he is doing undoubtedly to try and create a siege mentality and keep his team close in spirit and deed. But what is good for one part of a vast organisation like Liverpool is not necessarily good for the rest of it. The club's image and reputation is taking a battering because there are no senior people there who seem to have the power or remit to argue their own corners in the face of the scattershot approach of Dalglish. I cannot imagine any one person would have this amount of scope within their job definitions to cause this much trouble at any of Henry's other sporting entities, I struggle to imagine why he permits this to happen at Liverpool. Too much that seems to have happened at the club over the past year has been rather knee jerk, whether some of the ridiculous, panicky transfer deals or this sort of pandering to the baser instincts of the more rabid elements of the support. Good owners need to stand aloof from populist gestures, Henry seems to be far too acquiescent in the poor decision making made by the people he is trusting to run the club. I do not know if this is a competence issue or a currying favour one, either way I am worried. The owner doesn't have the first clue of what he is doing when it comes to football. NESV bought Liverpool because someone told them they could buy one of the most widely supported sports franchises in the world for £200 million. They jumped at it. The glazers were looking for over 10 times as much for man utd. £200 million was cheap. There was however a couple of reasons as to why this storied franchise was available so cheaply. The problem is that they don't know anything at all about football. They didn't realise what a mess Benitez had made of the club, with the assistance of H&G. they didn't know how incredibly shit most of the players were when they took over. They didn't realise how much fucking money these players were on. They didn't realise how badly structured the squad was, they didn't realise how long their contracts were. They were only dimly aware of how bad the clubs underlying financial position was, and how costs were exploding as income fell. They had some lovely little plans for a transfer guru to scour Europe for top players at fantastic prices, with a coach at the cutting edge of management, using the most modern of methods to weld the team into a winning machine. However, NESV didn't realise that all of their plans were going to be fucked straight out the window, because King Kenny wanted the job, and let it be known to the world at large through his mates who were all in the media and saying what a great manager he would be. NESV looked at their fans in near open revolt against their manager, and saw they were chanting for the return of a man who hadn't had any real involvement in football since he disgraced himself at Celtic and Newcastle, and they just buckled. Out went any notion of young coaches with inventive tactics, out went clever purchases, in came insanely expensive players of unproven top level pedigree, but proven behavioural problems, at galactico prices. All rational economic planning went out the window as they "overspent to show the fans that they were prepared to spend big." before scouring the North East for unbelievably bad value. NESV have little or no leverage over Dalglish. If they sacked him tomorrow they could never set foot in their own stadium again and would have to sell the club. KK can do whatever he wants, and unfortunately, it appears that he only seems to be interested in pissing and shitting all over his own reputation. Whether it be buying terrible players, or wasting obscene amounts of money, or making an unbelievably awful mess of handling this Suarez case, or even buying the crazy uncontrollable cunt in the first place. Suarez, Carroll, Downing and Henderson are enormous catastrophic club-crushing blunders. any other football manager who had made the catalogue of horrendous errors that Dalglish has made over the last 12 months would have been not only fired, but sued for the damage he's done to NESV's economic interests. But ultimately there is nothing that they can do about it, other than wait until he realises that his best managerial days were under Thatcher, and hope that he fucks off back to the 19th hole with the MOTD pundits, to tell off-colour stories about the good old days. NESV can then look at their falling income, escalating costs, rising losses, and try and rebuild again, in the knowledge that Liverpool have officially replaced nNewcastle as the most criminally mismanaged club in england. Pretty soon Liverpool fans are going to start every season hoping for a good run at a Europa league spot, and if one of the CL clubs wins the League cup, maybe we'll get it. I know many will be very angry at what I have written but it's the truth and we all know it.

Yep Kenny is doing a wonderful job - at wasting money and playing stone age tactics/formations. What is that stat again - we are 1pt better off than at this stage last season. Millions spend wisely then?

Suarez has genuine talent and was worth the money - Carroll is a lump that likes to get pissed at lot. He's not worth £3.50 let alone a massive £35 million.

David Villa cost Barcelona less than £35 million - the Carroll signing well it's just an amazingly bad bit of business. Seriously what a waste of money on a nothing player. Next people will be saying that Downing and Henderson are real bargains at £20 million or so each. So that's a significant amount of money, approx £75 million or so, spunked away on three non-entities. And I get called a fuckwit for not being happy about it? And the comparison with Rush doesn't hold up - how much did he cost first time around? £300,000 - even given inflation that isn't/wasn't £35 million now is it lads? Try to be rational, maybe?

I said at the time he was a complete and utter waste of money and I also remember being shouted down etc., for my view. Hate to say but told you so.

Bitters in serious relegation trouble?

Will people now be supporting Arsenal if it stops the scum from winning the league?