Mudface

Now now, I'm sure they'll take it as seriously as their student fees pledge if God help us they ever get the chance to be part of a government again.

My eldest had his first year at Uni last year. We paid his rent to help him out so he could concentrate on studies and enjoying Uni life- £6K for 9 months for a pokey, basic room which looked worse than the place I was in in the early '90s. For this year, he's got a flat with his mates- rooms are at least twice the size, massive bathroom and well-equipped kitchen, it's barely 100 yards from his old campus room and it's half the price. It's absolutely infuriating that these money-grabbing wankers appear to have done absolutely fuck all to protect kids moving away from home for the first time. No contingency plan for this inevitability, nothing. Where's the duty of care?

As if Johnson would be anywhere near the front line. Heseltine had it right- "A man who waits to see which way the crowd is running and then dashes in front and says 'follow me'".

I think it could be the steroids. Both myself and my sister take methotrexate for rheumatoid arthritis (albeit in much lower doses than a cancer patient would). She's also been on steroids for quite a while as her condition is more serious; she's a teacher, and was immediately put on the high risk list and told to self-isolate. I was only told to do so after I was prescribed steroids following a flare up close to when lockdown started, and was told it would need to be 8 weeks before I could do anything. I can vaguely remember some list where you got points for various conditions/ medications, and the steroids put me over the 'limit'. Anyway, hope she stays well, along with the other elderly relatives mentioned.

Yeah, I think the ONS data is about a week or so behind. As you say, it's a single data point but it's something at least.

Fingers crossed, at that rate it could peak in a few weeks and actually start to decline.

Aye, at the same time, we had Johnson dodging COBRA meetings, saying that us brave Brits could 'take it on the chin' and shaking hands with potential Covid patients. Smoking's a good example of how bought and paid for scientists- vociferous, but in a minority- can confuse the public over the safety of something with bullshit and allow a view opposing the general consensus to become normalised. See also climate change deniers and the likes of Sikora and Gupta now. These aren't trailblazing geniuses that have spotted something 99% of the scientific community missed, they're cunts.

From about 4:20 here- The full scene is much longer and can be found on your favourite porn sites. Tits only, but pretty good for a TV show. The actress is Amy Beth Hayes-

True, but that's entirely due to the response of the government- it dithered and locked down way too late, hence had to lock down for far longer than if it had gone early, ruined the collective response with the Cummings debacle, and then opened things back up too early with still significant numbers of infections and track and trace nowhere near functional. If we'd done it properly, we could potentially be in a position where we're just suppressing localised outbreaks with much of the place back to relatively normal, instead of re-imposing restrictions on the whole country. As it is, we're between a rock and a hard place with all avenues leading to some degree of shite.

Thanks for the recommendation, really enjoying this now. I just finished series 1 last night. The only reservation I have is that there weren't a lot more sex scenes with 'young Ruth' like in episode 2... Nice 'spot the Game of Thrones actors' bit in the first few episodes too.

Yes, you should...

Well, you'd better get on to King's College, the Scottish and Welsh governments, the NHS, the DHSC and God knows how many other departments and bodies that analyse or supply data with your devastating revelations as I'm sure no one will have considered that and corrected for it.

I'd send it to Zoe, I'm sure they'll be astounded at their obvious error.

What? I don't run the damn thing, if you want the methodology, you'd need to contact them and see if they're willing to share their models. And no, the symptoms are not the same. If you respond that you feel ill on the app during the daily check in, it asks you a list of 20 or so questions about your symptoms and also whether or not you've had a Covid test- I posted these earlier in the thread when you were casting shade on it last time. Again, I don't run it, but I'd be pretty sure it then calculates a probability of the person having Covid based on previous responses correlated against swab test data and then uses that in aggregate to provide its headline figures. As ever, the actual figures are less important than the trend, which is clearly up by any metric.

The symptoms are different. The app data is combined with swab data to estimate probabilities. Groundhog day this.

It. Is. Not. Colds. Even the guy who runs the project was on TV last week explaining that if you have a runny nose and are sneezing, you don't have Covid.

My missus heard it on the radio- I was upstairs working. She yelped and legged it up to tell me- she doesn't even follow football and she was delighted because my gloom instantly dissipated. Bit different to when Kenny went for the first time- I was working in the lab and my prof came through to tell me. The experiment didn't go too well that afternoon.

Come off what? There are 12 million people over the age of 65 alone in the UK. That's before you start counting other potentially vulnerable groups as outlined in Rico's list, then add in the people they live with or care for them. 20 million is probably an underestimate.

What end goal? You'd be trying to keep something like 20 million potentially vulnerable people 'safe' while the virus runs rampant through everyone else. Exactly, get the definition wrong and it'd be a disaster. Plus you'd have to consider all the people someone 'vulnerable' lived with- either they'd have to be separated, or kept isolated too.

But... that's pretty much what would happen if you decided to isolate vulnerable groups and let everyone get on with stuff, only on a much bigger scale.

He dodged them pretty well.

Another victim of a vegetarian diet.

The only reason to keep the 3 employees in that guy's case, is to get the job retention bonus at the end of January- https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/job-retention-bonus/job-retention-bonus It's just kicking the can down the road though, instead of an October furlough end cliff edge, you've now got this instead.