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Give them another month. Said this before but dont think they have the money behind them and its typical across the pond thinking. Only brought us because we were cheap.

Whoever brought Liverpool knew they needed a equity investment of around £100-£200 million on top of the money they paid to purchase club. FSG got the club around £100 million below its market cap. They have done well in some areas. But need to be honest with thier intentions...considering what fans have been through. If they dont then they can!!!!!!!!!!

Your right.

Brilliant win we deserved that after beating the big teams in the earlier ties. Excellent for the club after Suarez being stitched up. What a boost. Excellent.

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What a stupid thread.

From the times John W. Henry ready to lift Liverpool’s standard after Luis Suárez furore Rory Smith Trying to enjoy a family vacation, John W. Henry watched the final, radioactive fallout from the Luis Suárez affair settle on Anfield from Fort Lauderdale, deep in America’s Sunshine State. * It is unlikely to have been a particularly restful holiday, such is the work that awaits him. Next week, Liverpool’s principal, principled owner will fly to Merseyside, where the storm clouds gather. * Contrary to a popular perception too easily guided by soap opera narrative, the arpeggio of apologies issued by Suárez, his club, and Kenny Dalglish, the manager, on Sunday afternoon was not orchestrated by Fenway Sports Group, Liverpool’s parent company. * There was no directive from Henry or his chairman, Tom Werner, that the Uruguayan’s failure to shake hands with Patrice Evra at Old Trafford was of such repugnant moral vacuity that contrition was compulsory. There was no kneejerk response to savage words in the New York Times, a former investor in FSG, and the Boston Globe, Henry’s local paper, demanding intervention in the closest thing the Barclays Premier League has to a pariah state. * Rather, Ian Ayre, Liverpool’s managing director, in consultation with Dalglish, established the direction the club would take and sought confirmation from his employers that they agreed with his blueprint. This was local self-determination in action. There was no American cultural imperialism. * That is not to accuse Henry of idleness, or absenteeism, a charge he and Werner have been desperate to avoid ever since replacing Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr on a rather happier October day, exactly a year before Suárez turned his spiteful tongue on Evra. That the 62-year-old will be in England within the next seven days, indeed, is evidence of how things have changed. FSG will fight for its investment. * Henry’s first job is likely to be mollifying Standard Chartered, the club’s prime, £20 million-a-season shirt sponsor, unsurprisingly unhappy to find its brand, its logo, suddenly associated rather too readily with a player charged with issuing racist abuse. There is no suggestion as yet that the bank, which boasts 1,700 branches worldwide and considerable reach in the Far East, is reassessing its involvement with the club. * Henry, though, knows that assuring them such toxicity will not be a feature of their association with Liverpool in the future will soothe troubled minds. * Although Henry will also meet Richard Scudamore, the chief executive of the Premier League, in an attempt to smooth relations with the English game’s hierarchy, it is telling that it is when the brand is imperilled that he acts. An editorial in Massachusetts costs nothing; fear rising in the Orient could be expensive indeed. * FSG, like Dalglish, has no intention of selling Suárez; anyone with the briefest knowledge of football would know that the game’s moral compass tends to point in whichever direction leads to success, that clubs do not routinely sell their best players simply to dampen an outcry, no matter how serious the offence. Henry has been long enough in sport to know that another controversy will be stirred, another hellion conjured soon enough to distract attention. * But he has also been aware, from the moment Evra first levelled his charge at Suárez, at how poisonous such an allegation might be. For the player, of course, and for the club. But most of all for the brand. Such corporate jargon is anathema to fans, no more so than those on the Kop whose traditions are pinned to their jackets and daubed on to flags. But that is what Liverpool, and all of their competitors, have become: brands that require consumers, brands that stand and fall by their sponsors. * If Henry’s investment is to work, and Liverpool are to compete once more, he needs a club he can sell worldwide. Ideally, he needs a star player. * It seemed before October that Suárez could be that cornerstone. Now that is in doubt. Player, club and brand have been damaged. It is Henry who must begin to arrest the decline, to begin the Herculean task of wiping the slate clean. There is work to be done. *

Just hope Suarez does a private case against evra and slur. Other hope one of the manc players come out and really say what happened in that dressing room, when evra made the complaint. Only one I can think of is hanandez, but I doubt he would.

No improvement from the previous owners, no news on new stadium, saved by the Torres money. Brought the club on the cheap. Allowed an manager of another team to destroy a players reputation. Should never have brought the club if they could not run it. It was a fucking handshake. And they Call themselves winners, more like losers.

Just heard the hearts manager on Ssn give his reasons for not shaking hands with the the Other manager today. Brilliant why can't we do this.

Good thread. I think it is Suarez decision if he wants to shake evra's hand, don't think the club need to respond to that. But they need to issue a response to fergies post match comments regarding Suarez him being a disgrace etc, especially the bit about the riot! All because he did not shake evra's hand, I thought evra was inciting trouble at the end.

Leeds are not close to Liverpool in terms of brand. We are on another level and can pay top wages without CL. But the owners need to do their bit instead of blaming council etc.

Liverpool have always payed top wages, even when we were not in the champions league. The club earn alot from the brand. The only thing holding the club back is a new stadium which could earn the club a additional £50 million. Thats what I dont understand, the owners knew this when they brought the club at a good price and another 18 months go by.

What shit, Liverpool can afford top wages, the only thing we need is a new stadium.

They have done well since they took over, but they knew when they brought the club that it needed finance for a new stadium. I don't think they have the money, and were only thinking about a refurbished anfield due to it being a cheaper option and are now starting to leak reports blaming the council.

Carrol did well. You can see now its just a confidence thing with him.

What a miss by kuyt, good layoff from carrol.

Just off rawk...Does not seem to be Just to update on my situation I just gave. Statement to police who are investigating the matter. When I saw him doing it from behind he was doing it to the supporters and no one in my eyeline was black Was he stupid to do it yes but it was in response to the mancs doing the calm down calm down motion now there is nothing to say that there actions to us is not racist if the world is going to go comletely mad ReplyQuoteNotify "100% true mate.* -* but as I said I had my back to him but in my eyelin which is same as his there were no blaclk or Indian supporters. Now if he is calling the mancs supporters who were White monkeys or mad gorillas how can that be deemed racist.* If he was directing it at a black person fair enough."

The picture does not show his other arm, which could be the key. Also last season there was a image showing nani's knee in a bad state which had been edited and released after the match. If its true then hope he gets a life ban.

Carra shocking decision, the guy can't run. Outplayed by a giggs and scholes in the middle. Such a weakend man u team. Dalglish and the coaching staff really need to look at themselves.

If I was a CEO at a top company I would not sponsor that shitty 2003 design. The more unique the stadium, the more naming rights money.

If that's the case, they need to come out and say the council stopping them from resubmitting plans. They have the planning permission, a new design would require building regs approval again. They would be better building the hicks design. It should be between the hicks design or stay at Anfield with 45000. I believe they don't want to put any money in, similar to what's happening at united, villa, arsenal. It's typical across the pond business thinking.

They have no money. Typical across the pond thinking buy a cheap football club but don't Put no money in. Shit design outdated better to stay at Anfield with 45000 seats.

Sad, that's a shit design. More bullshit "they will have to wait 3 years for new plans to get approved". When hicks did his new plans he did it in 3 months has they already had planning permission. Why can't the owners be honest. The yanks really don't like putting their own money in. They don't have the finance. Not put anything in so far, also got the club for a bargain £200 million. Same old story again.

Am from a Ethnic minoritiy.... Liverpool needs you...ethnic minorities fans and fans from all over the world need to get our tops out and support the club, the club is getting too much bad press. There's an agenda against Liverpool.. What you need to do is read the FA report, watch the video clips from the match and you will see how the club has been stitched up. The press are all together in this, they agree together to run storys. So make sure you wear your Liverpool FC gear and show you are proud to be a Red.