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To paraphrase Bill Hicks... and God wept I believe was the next verse, as did the Kop as two knobhead cowboys escaped the blame again... Hodgson was never good enough to be our manager - Rafa over-achieved because he is a great football man who the press (and certain red men who should know better) turned against. BUT - the "debate" about Rafa masked the ownership problem which is all that matters. Sacking Hodgson would merely distract from the bigger picture which the protests today attempted to highlight. Whatever the result on the pitch right now - we have to get rid of the cowboys, we have to resove the ownership issue. Having said that, and I know that ownership is all that matters, it is still unbelievably depressing to be a Liverpool fan today - and here's me stuck in Dundee!

Look, let's not forget that it's been a tough start to the season - Arsenal, Man City and Birmingham in our first four games and the Mancs next. Whilst I agree that we've looked dire during large parts of the season thus far, we'll get better (bit of a D:Ream situation in prospect) and most importantly - those cowboy chumps will be history in October. YNWA.

He's good enough as a caretaker manager for sure, and at least he's got some class about him in terms of his attitude and demeanour (unlike the translator now in Madrid). Another positive is that the press seem to love him (though we'll see how long that lasts - if Fulham had been treated like LFC in the press last year, does anyone think ANDY Johnson's name would ever have been reported without being preceded by a vastly inflated estimate of his transfer fee a la Aquilani?) which may be an improvement on Rafa who was terrible at media management. Speaking of Rafa, it's impossible to replace him with anyone who's as good as he was as history will show. No manager of his standing would touch Liverpool until the Cancer has been removed. The only exception to this would have been a former Liverpool player, but you look at what's on offer with that qualification with some trepidation these days. He's done a decent job at Fulham, but he inherited them in a falsley low position (the press seem to forget just how much of other people's money the phoney pharaoh has chucked Fulham's way) with exceedingly low expectations. If he's the manager, then we're behind him, but this is not an exciting development - could be on a par with replacing Edward Smith when we really need to think about the iceberg on the horizon.

Stevie was lucky not to be sent off - but the correct decision would have been to send off both players. The ref was right there and gave the foul so I don't see how they can do anything about it now. Having said that, Taggart is bound to kick up a fuss (though we've done them without Stevie lately) and it depends whether his involvement outweighs Stevie's position as England VC in the internal politics. Overall though - it was a truly enjoyable forearm smash and the subject line of this debate just sums it all up perfectly.

Don't want to add too much this close to such a distressing result but if Mourinho ever becomes Liverpool manager, then that's it for me as far as LFC are concerned. He is scum: I'd rather lose a game than win it by complaining that St. John's Ambulance are to blame for an unwanted outcome or crying about ghost goals or whatever. We are Liverpool. We don't employ people like Mourinho.

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Fair play - I missed that. How about a Fat XI: Paddy Kenny Sam Allardyce Neil Ruddock Ivan Campo Richar Dunne Francis Lee Sammy Lee Jan Molby Diego Maradona Mick Quinn Mike Summerbee Manager: Vicente Del Bosque Chairman: Robert Maxwell

Bellamy? Cannot behave. Can. Not. Behave. Agree on Bowyer - sub him in for who though?

The beginnings of a series - a team made up entirely of c*unts: Andy Goram Andy Todd Kevin Muscat Frank Leboeuf Julian Dicks Paul Ince Andreas Moeller Robbie Savage Diouf Craig Bellamy Duncan Ferguson Manager: Neil (Colin) Warnock Chairman: Rupert Lowe Subs: Bentley, Kahn, Jones (Vinnie), Bowyer, Kluivert suggestions?

I no longer live in the area but this idea is good and I'm with you in spirit. Didn't Labour promise an enquiry before they got in in 1997 and then Jack Straw went back on it? I think the difference now is that the general public at large is more favourable towards the campaign than it was in the 90's - and that's got to be down to the great work done by and on behalf of the families.

If there was a comedy sketch show - a la The Fast Show - purely about football there would be loads of material around. This interview and the whole Steve Bruce debacle could simply be shown in its entirety - no need to add anything. It's like the fashion industry - beyond satire. As someone else said earlier: 1995 - Liverpool 2 Blackburn 1. There's winning and there's winning. We'll win it with some class.

We can't be havin' a black kit. We're not the bloody Taliban. Or worse, the scum.

Did you vote for Ryan effing Giggs as well?

He's awful - we all knew that before the 4-4 but his behaviour was pathetic. Why didn't one of our lads lash the ball at him when he stood in front of free kicks (at least 6 times) - even Howard Webb would have had to book him. He's also hugely over-rated because he's at Arsenal. The annoying thing is that they'll get a load of cash for him in the summer and they won't miss him. Also, what's all this about Arshevin? He scored four against us and that mean's he'll be amazing? Is there a precedent? Oh yeah, wait... ..."Julio Baptista scored four as Arsenal routed Liverpool to seal a Carling Cup semi-final clash with rivals Tottenham" BBC Sport, 9th Jan 2007 And of course, "The Beast" is now the best player in the Premier League isn't he? Oh wait, he's turing out on occassion for Roma...