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Are you and Bascombe 'allies' then? Or is the relationship a bit more serious than that?

If he mentions it, just tell him that some people decided to jib the game because they were saving up for Istanbul.

Ideally both finalist should each be receiving 30,000+ tickets, but an extra 4,000ish over last year's allocation is better than fuck all.

I think they'll probably waive that restriction, if indeed it is in place, for this one off event, just like the £10 fee for a visa was waived by the Turks on production of a final ticket at passport control.

21,000 tickets go to this year's CL finalists - last year we got about 17,000 + a small number from the FA, so if we reach the final this year we should have a better chance in the ballot. :whistle: Story here.

Mascherano Skrtel Pass On a sidenote, how does Carragher swing these TV MOM nominations? Sunderland on Setanta last week and today on Sky. Mind-boggling.

You've submitted over twelve and a half thousand posts and I've replied to about four (or including this one, about five) of them, yet you're querying whether I'm your "new stalker". You're in no way a drama queen, are you? :whistle:

He just needs a fluffy white caterpillar to stroke.

I think we'll do it, but I'd be worried if we have to go to Spurs needing a result to clinch it.

It's the future - hopefully the not-too-distant future.

Ha fucking ha, still up to your old tricks, eh? Bascombe lauches an outright attack on our Manager, yet you interpret it as a 'kick up the backaside'. You're fucking priceless.

Awww, has Carragher come out and suppported your 'Rafa has lost the players' bollocks theory, and I have gone and insulted him? You poor little lamb. Why don't you run the logic of your theory by us again, especially the bit where you say players are only interested in getting big money and playing in the big competitions - which is something our players are doing, yet they are unhappy and want the Manager changed - you never did square that circle, did you?

Sorry mate but I find it hard to take the stuff you write seriously. I think it was De Bono who said that most people form their opinions through personal prejudices and then use whatever intellect they have to justify their positions in a rational manner, and that is exactly the impression I get from a lot of your posts. I'm still laughing at the fact that you think Parry saved Rafa's job after his (Rafa's) post-Athens outburst, yet you believe he (Parry) only did it so he wouldn't have his holidays ruined by having to search for a new Manager :D I think you've got your position firmed up on most things and individuals, and no matter what happens, you're intent on holding on to them by way of 'rationalisation'.

The deadline excuse is fucking laughable considering the fact that Bascombe used to write match reports for the Footy Echo when it came out on Saturday about 10 minutes after the match had finished. :lol::lol::lol: Come on atk, that was a fucking pearler that excuse :D:D

:lol::lol: "It was'nt me, honest" "It was true at the time, but things change quickly" "I had deadlines to meet" Any more bullshit excuses that can be used to utter cack on behalf of shitty tabloid newspapers? :lol:

If a daft hoofer like Carragher is dictating things behind the scenes then we're on the slippery slope to oblivion. The ironic thing is, one of the knocks against Rafa amongst the fans is his style of football, but Carragher wouldn't exactly breeze his way into the "total football XI", 'dazzling run' or not. Rafa should give the back-passaholic some extra time to pull pints in his boozer where he can chirp away to the adoring punters in his professional Scouse accent that makes us sound like cunts.

Wasn't it you who said Bascombe has got a hotline to Rafa which he uses daily? Will this hotline now be slightly below freezing?

This excuse has surpassed the 'but things can change quickly' excuse for allowing journalists in general, and Bascombe in particular, carte blanche to write utter tripe. :D

I've just watched the Setanta coverage off tape and awarding MOTM to Carragher is one of the most laughable decisions I've seen so far this season.

That's an absolute shithouse of an article by Bascombe - and it was by Bascombe, don't be giving us any of this 'editor/sub-editor rewriting bollocks'. The funny thing is that Carragher isn't all that good in terms of being a footballer; he's got good defensive skills but is limited in terms of football ability. And as for his 'dazzling' run, do me a favour Bascombe, all the jizz you're drinking from Murdoch's cock is addling your judgement.

From what I remember reading, I thought the original plan was to have a mid 70’s capacity when the stadium opened on day one, with initial planning permission being sought for 60,000 initially because it would get passed by the planners more easily as we already had permission for a 60,000 stadium. Thus we could get to work with the minimum of delay and apply for the extension to capacity while work was underway. So in this scenario it would be important to have an idea of the overall cost of the maximum capacity project. Pressing on with phase one – actually building the ground - would have taken away a major area for reducing costs – the ‘value engineering’ bit. Plus, they held a competition between HKS and AFL for the new ‘cost effective’ stadium and that must have had some sort of effect too. Having got permission to actually build a stadium, the way I see it is that it’s then more important to see what permission you have in terms of how many people are allowed through the gate when the thing is finished rather than how many physical seats are in the ground – and that will obviously be governed by the supporting infrastructure. When Parry says they are aiming for 71,000 seats (with latest design) from 'day one' and if the 'day one' he is referring to is the day the diggers move in then, yes, we will need the planning permission sorted beforehand. If however Parry is referring to 'day one' as our first competitive home match then I don't see why a later planning application cannot be submitted for the increased capacity. All in my laymans opinion, ofcourse.

I think when Hicks acknowledged that the cost for the first HKS design was approaching £400 million (around the time of some sports conference or other when we had just lost to the Turks in the CL, I think), that cost was for the whole project - maximum capacity stadium in the mid 70's and accompanying infrastructue expenditure. So with this downscaling or 'value engineering' as they call it, to the stadium itself, that has brought about a reduction in the overall cost of the project. Regards planning permission, as already has been mentioned, the original idea was to re-submit a further planning application when construction was underway in order to get permission for the extra numbers. I’m not aware of the legal intricacies but I would have thought that building could begin straight away on this new design if the footprint and height are the same, while the design is pretty much the same. Do we actually need planning permission to actually install seats within the ground? If the infrastructure work is not carried out in time, wouldn’t the Council just say: “Yes, that looks very nice but until you do the infrastructure work to accommodate the additional numbers we’re capping your capacity to 60,000”?

No you daft cunt, we just expect rich Texans to purchase 'sports franchises' with their own resources - not have the fans do it for them by placing the debt for the purchase onto the 'sports franchise'. Dickhead.

By that time we'll still be paying off the additional £300 mil too.

I'm no financial expert but i was fucking about on excel yesterday and this is rough estimate on how the loan repayment would look, I think, £105 mil over 25 years at 5% interest. Loan £105,000,000 Period 25 Interest Rate 5.00% Principal Principal Due Interest Due Total Due Year 1 £105,000,000 £4,200,000 £5,250,000 £9,450,000 £100,800,000 £4,200,000 £5,040,000 £9,240,000 £96,600,000 £4,200,000 £4,830,000 £9,030,000 £92,400,000 £4,200,000 £4,620,000 £8,820,000 £88,200,000 £4,200,000 £4,410,000 £8,610,000 ...... Year 25 £4,200,000 £4,200,000 £210,000 £4,410,000 Totals £105,000,000 £68,250,00 173,250,000