Turkish Delight

Looking forward to singing seventeen next season now!

This came to me this morning and while it's been stuck in my head may not be as good as I first thought. However opinions are welcome! To the tune of the chorus of Black Velvet Band by the Dubliners Our number nine is a hardman The best forward in the whole land With hair slunk over his shoulder Tied up with a black velvet band Could follow it up with a simple Carroll clap clap clap Not sure how to embed Youtube vids but the tune can be seen here: YouTube - The Dubliners - Black Velvet Band

He really wound me up last night. It wasn't just his lack of quality but it's that he plays for himself and not the team. If someone is better placed than him to score he will always take it on himself. He would definitely be a player I would like to be moved on in the Summer as I really think he brings us nothing.

How happy does he look in all of these? He's going to be ace.

After Luis scores the winner You can shove yer Judas Torres up yer arse You can shove yer Judas Torres up yer arse You can shove yer Judas Torres Coz we've got Luis Suarez You can shove yer Judas Torres up yer arse

As a purely twice a year song Luis woooah, Luis woooah, He came from Uruguay, He made the Scousers fly

Anything referring to Torres or his song is out for me. Time to move on and forget about the treacherous cunt. I quite like the Sweet Carroll Nine idea though!

He also signed Shearer for a British record fee at the same age and his scoring record was worse than Carroll's. There's no getting away from the fact that 35 million is way over-priced and that his character is suspect but I've watched him a few times and think he will be an excellent signing for us.

If only United had taken that stance when Ronaldo first wanted to leave. He'd have gone and we'd have won the league. Torres should go in the summer and on our terms.

Made me laugh that as my thoughts as I left was how it should have been long sewn up. In fact until Hangeland's header I thought it was as comfortable a 1-0 as I've seen. Obviously, being at that club affects a person's judgment as they dominated last night as much as we dominated the Goodison derby. Don't know what his argument with Jonjo was about in the second half but he didn't exactly cover himself in glory by having a go at a young lad either.

Totally agree with that. I think Jonjo has great potential and would rather him be given minutes for experience than them be given to a player who was in my opinion over-hyped at his peak and past that level at this stage of his career with the injuries he has had.

Just been texted about exactly that 10 minutes ago. According to my mate's dad who is a Rangers fan he's the sort of player who can have a spark of magic to win you one game but be a complete liability in the next. It echoed what I thought from watching him this season and would rather we steered clear to be honest.

I said last season when we played Atletico and had a right hand side of Degen and El Zhar chasing a game that it was a joke we let him go the way we did. We have very few players capable of creating something from nothing and he could give us a good option. As for the 'why isn't anyone else interested?' nonsense there have been many great and good players signed from lower divisions without everybody clamouring for a signature.

We have 3 promising young centre halves in Kelly, Wilson and Ayala at the club. My preference at the moment would be to have Carra playing alongside either Wilson or Ayala with Kelly on the right and to see whether we can develop a long term partnership between the three of them over the next 18 months while utilising Carra's experience. Skrtel is not good enough and for all of the talk of Agger's ability on the ball the first thing I want a defender to be able to do is defend. If he can't do that then he shouldn't be playing. The Greek was a stop-gap and can't be relied on consistently so is a non-starter for me. I do agree with the points about centre-mid. I think Lucas and Meireles have their uses but we need someone who will dominate and provide proper protection to the defence. Not conceding goals is not all about the defence. Kelly apart the full backs need replacing too.

I saw that too and at Old Trafford at the weekend.

I haven't seen enough of Rossi to make a judgment and I'm not a big fan of Adam at all but I agree with everything else you have said 100% there.

I love how people impersonate the manager when talking about the match. Under Rafa we had people finishing sentences with no? Here we have you saying no rather than not (unless it was just a typo) and under Roy we had Mypost talking shite. Birmingham should have put 10 past Blackpool there last week. I expect us to have a go and win comfortably.

I understand that. I was just emphasising your point about it being unacceptable if they did wait.

Definitely. They can refund my season ticket too if that's their attitude.

The things is are they taking a considered approach? We have no idea as they are saying nothing and as yet we don't know their motives. I've said this a few times but everyone seems very quick to assume they are ideal owners for us when as yet we have no idea and all that's happened is they have made the right noises which anyone with a tiny bit of PR savvy would be able to do. I'll be forming my opinion based on actions rather than words and this for me is their first test. It won't be the sole basis of my opinion of them but I will be disgusted if Hodgson leads us out on Sunday. They may ultimately get this right but I think the longer Hodgson remains manager the more open to questions they will become and rightly so.

What's all this shite about match going fans and internet fans? I am a season ticket holder that engages in internet debate and there's many others on here who are in the same boat as well. As for Rafa, personally I think he would do a good job for us if he came back over a period of time. He'd have had 6 months to think over the mistakes he made and what he would do differently and I believe he would be the right man to make the brave decisions that will need to be made over several players at the club and whether they will ever re-produce the peak form we saw from them. I would definitely consider him lower risk than many other people being touted for the job. Having said that there is a significant enough number who would oppose the appointment and jump on him at the first opportunity. We would need quick success or the arguments in the ground would start which in turn could feed onto the pitch. In many ways I think the ideal appointment would be a Rafa who doesn't have all the water under the bridge. Somebody with a vision who would unite the fanbase. I clicked yes but only because I can't think of anyone who I am certain would do a better job that would be available. I think that this is the only criteria we should look at and believe any other likely appointment would be a roll of the dice as to our medium term future.

He was never suited to them anyway. He's probably on a plane to Spain now to replace Pep.

From previous quotes I know that you are keen for the team to progress young talent to the first team in a similar manner to what has happened at Arsenal. One of the reasons given for this not happening often enough in recent years is that the reserve and youth teams play with a different tactical set-up. With this currently being the case what role will Damien Comolli play in setting the tactics played by both the first team and the teams at other levels? And in relation to developing these young players do you think that a manager who is on record as having a mistrust of the ability of young players to produce results is the right man to develop this environment at Liverpool?

About 10/1 I think.

I wouldn't swap it for a Premiership title either to be honest. In 50 years' time that final will be talked about by people outside the club as well as within it in the same way Real Madrid at Hampden Park is now. No individual Premier League title from this time will be and certainly not our treble in 2001 no matter how great it was.