Ronnie Whelan

Great post. You have me regretting not having Rushy in my top 5. Again, like Mo, he was a genuinely world class player and an incredible ambassador for the club. Think I still have Suarez in ahead of them both and Keegan.

Great post. My dad is nearly 93 and loves Stig's threads on greatest teams. He's a real old school football man (old school Bluenose) and he always talks about Billy Liddell as one of the greatest players he saw. With any of the teams, a lot of the players he wanted in were from the 40s, 50s and 60s but I guess that makes sense. The great players become greater as the years go by. For my money and only because I really remember from the 70s on, Kenny Souness Barnes Stevie Suarez Mo has made a bigger impression on the club than Suarez and would be in at 6, but Suarez was the more talented player imo and for a period was on the level of Messi and Ronaldo.

Feel like an Everton wife right now! Mudface and Carvalho ready for a riot

I'll probably get a tlw barring order against me, but I don't get the Harry Kane hate. Brilliant player. Brilliant pro. Never seems to do any knobhead shit off the pitch and is all about being the best he can be. I couldn't give a fuck about Ingerlund but I never disliked him. Now, I feel I can enjoy him like you might any top player that doesn't directly impact you.

This Fletch guy is a real Manc cheerleader isn't he.

The blonde one on the right is a bit tasty

Bill looks like he could rob a bank and the armed police would flee back to the station. The bullets would ricochet off his jaw.

Wanker Giggs too!

Honourable mentions for Sheedy and Whiteside too.

Good man Stig. Goalkeeper is a kicker of a choice. Genuinely two of the greatest keepers of all time in Nev and Jennings. My 93 year old dad is over for Friday night dinner with my mam and he loves these threads. He said Harry Gregg is one of the best keepers he saw live. Elisha Scott was one of our pre-war greats. I'm giving it to Pat Jennings. Irwin has to get in. Outstanding player he was and would probably make a greatest Manc eleven. Have to have McGrath and Lawrenson in as well. Again two of the finest defenders I ever saw. John Charles gets the final position. Obviously never saw him but he's considered a giant of the game. My dad said Johnny Carey was magnificent and maybe he was but I'm not finding a spot for him because McGrath and Lawro were two magnificent players. Loads of class in midfield. My dad says Blanchflower has to be in and like John Charles going on what I've heard I'm putting him in. Giles was the first opposition player I loved/feared/hated. A wonderful player and hard as nails too. The final player is Brady. I loved watching him and that's rough on Keane, who was world class. Up front it's Best, Bale and Rush. Rushy was the best domestic striker I've seen. Bale was a beautiful player and Best is considered a true great. Fair to say all world class. Subs: Nev Ratcliffe O'Leary Keane Whelan Robbie Keane Duff My dad was mentioning Cantwell, Billy Whelan (busby babe) Cliff Jones and Jimmy McIlroy there, but I don't really enough about them. Only found out Burnley won the league in the 60s through looking up Mcilroy on wikipedia so you learn something new every day.

Beautiful that Yorkshire! What a player he was. That Forest team were terrific but he was a level above top team mates. Struck me the amount of great Scottish players there were. I mean if there was a joint England/Scotland team of greats, the Scots might have 7. Actually incredible they weren't perennial quarter finalists/semi finalists/finalists? when you think of how incredible their talent pool was. I mean the greatest spine in our history was Scottish. An all time Scotland, Wales and the two Irelands would be fabulous come to think of it. A thread for Bjornebye to work on!

Domestic 10: Southall (Pat Jennings was better imo but his peak was when we had Clem whereas Nev was superior to Grob). Giles - the De Bruyne of his day. First opposing player I loved/hated as a kid. Hard as nails. Souey said him and Bremner schooled him as a young lad and thought him everything he needed to learn about being a top player. Gazza - a genius plain and simple. John Robertson - a forgotten genius. Brady - A beautiful player. Alan Shearer - a machine. A snidey bastard as a pundit but what a striker. Paul McGrath - a rolls royce of a defender. John Terry * cunt I know but Jesus what a defender.* Roy Keane - a poor man's Souey but a player that still would make a world eleven in his pomp imo. Bear in mind Souey would get in my greatest ever all time international 11 that is meant as high praise. Rio Ferdinand * I know I know but a great player in his pomp* Foreign 10: Ronaldo (Brazilian) - a joy to behold. Him, Ronaldinho and Rivaldo were footballing sex. De Bruyne - the best pound for pound player in the league over the last 5 or so years. Gullit - a candidate for a greatest 11. Maldini- in the greatest 11. Van Basten - enough said. Henry - brilliant player. A candidate for the best player to ever play in this country. Platini - a beautiful beautiful player. Zidane - see above but maybe even better than Platini. Diego - the greatest. Messi - top 3 of all time. Not a definitive list of the greatest players of all time but just players I really liked watching. Pele is the 2nd or 3rd greatest player of all time and Beckenbauer would probably make a greatest ever eleven - maybe it's because I rarely saw them as a kid that I haven't really considered them. Bobby Moore is probably unlukcy as well but I don't remember him when he was really good.

Only joking about Giggseh lads but what an absolute scummy bunch. Scholesy kissing his daughter's toe was another one wasn't it? Strange fucker.

To be fair to Giggseh, all he did was sleep with his sister in law. In the grand scheme of rapists, nonces, pervs and peados, he should be knighted.

This kid is meant to be unreal and we seem to be linked with him. He popped up on some article I was reading on the top 10 u17 players in Europe and then I had a gander at him. Looks excellent. Ferguson would be worth buying when Mo goes even if it means tweeking the formation. Genuinely incredible player at 18. What I like about him most is his intelligence. Redknapp said it right that he is a mixture of so many elite players. I certainly see Kane in him and regardless of what you think about Captain Ingerlund, he is a really outstanding player.

Tell you what An tha, if Mo does go, that's a real statement signing for the Saudis and you have to think it's the first of many statement signings in the next twelve to eighteen months. Guess who that really impacts - yeah Sky the stupid twats!

Jesus, the media are desparate for Mo to go. I suppose it's possibly a huge story for them, but their precious brand, will take a huge hit. Latest is it may go to 200 million. Anyhow, if we sign two very good players today after Gravenberch, I think he's on his way. Right now, I think it's a load of shite.

Fair point td. Gravenberch is an all rounder who can play a variety of roles including the 6. I think he has played that role for Ajax. Maybe, that's the plan here. In fairness, peak Fabinho was world class, so unfair to say if he will be that good, but I am seriously excited about this signing.

Really exciting signing. This kid was a super player at Ajax. He's got bags of ability and exciting to think what Jurgen will do with him. Crazy ability and potential in our midfield now. Feel funny about this window. Our midfield is seriously exciting and young now, but our defence which should be a real lighthouse of experience, brains and cop on for the rest of the team is a bit of a clusterfuck. Feel like I'm committing a cardinal sin here and waiting to get torn apart by the forum, but Virgil is the most culpable. Trent has always been a mediocre defender who was looked after by Virgil, Big Bird, Fabinho, Gini and yes Hendo to allow his world class ability on the ball be a real positive. Now he doesn't have that support. Konate is a real plus and I'd be confident that Robbo will come good again, but Virgil looks like he's stopped loving defending. The easy thing is to blame the injury, but he was brilliant for nearly all of the season when we nearly did the quadruple. If he returns to even 75% of what he was, we'll look a lot more like ourselves back there. Right now, he scares the shit out of me. I'd love a really good centre half/right back and that's stopping it being a really exceptional window, but if we can build on this window in January, it's potentially a very exciting team.

Carol has that Scouse Ma look about her. Great laugh but runs a tight ship and will clobber any fucker that skips the queue. Virgil you daft knobhead, no jelly and ice cream for you today. Only for Darwin, I'd fucking strangle you so take that pout of your nugget and count yourself lucky.

Being honest, if we get those two over the line it's been an excellent window. Macca and Dom are outstanding, Gravenberch and Hincapie are potentially excellent and Endo is a decent squad option. I liked Hincapie the few times I've seen him. Thought Gravenberch was really good at Ajax. He's hit a wall at Bayern but he could take off with us.

Gravenberch looks like a really good signing. 30-35 million for a lad with that much talent is excellent. A top class centre half is a must though, even more than another midfielder.

Totally agree with that.

Brilliant. Bet it made that lad's day!

Can't believe we aren't all over Pavard. Top class player. Only reason must be agent fees or/and wages. Was talking to a bluenose mate who watches a lot of German football. He reckons Endo is a very decent signing for us. Said Slob is going to be world class (I agree). Definitely feel that the midfield isn't too far off. Really don't know enough about Andre or Doucore to know if they have the ability to take a seriously expensive punt on. Didn't see the Palace game last night so can't comment. Really want a centre half. Feel like that is the big weak point this year. Virgil isn't the same player, Konate will have a spell out, Big Bird is likely to have an extended spell out and Gomez will be out for months and is no longer good enough. Hope I'm proved wrong.