Barrington Womble

But you seemed sure he'd quit if PSG bought him?

Why?

Considering we could have cleared 100m last season, it's not something I'd be happy with. But the bottom line is, unless slot is desperate to work with him, it's better than a kick in the arse. I'm not sure they would be in for him. But I don't think they'd be at the front of a queue for a bosman so it could be enough to push them I reckon. Also, while they have had a change of culture, they're about to lose their star man in mbappe. Outside of Saudi, I would say it's the most likely place he'll end up.

I reckon psg could be interested (if Salah will go there)

Yeah, we'd have been safe (well assuming no stupid goal difference fuck up) had that Chelsea goal stood. Fucking typical VAR gets a soft one to rule out when it hurts us.

Unless we sell to Saudi, we won't get the money Munich paid for mane.

Another Chelsea goal here though and we'll be alright.

You can never rely on those big emotional games to get results. We need to get it sorted v spurs.

It doesn't get any better though despite the shield change..you now see the whole mess. The socks better be wrong.

1 year left on his contract, 32 in the summer and earning the type of sum we won't entertain for a player we don't want. We couldn't be more over a barrel. If Saudi are out of the picture then he isn't worth much at all, because there's nobody to pay much at all. Unless you want him playing at Newcastle. It doesn't matter what is said. You don't behave like that to your manager going onto the pitch. Especially when you've strutted around since returning from afcon. I don't mind a tantrum when they get taken off. But that wasn't what was happening. It wouldn't have happened had klopp not been in his last few games.

If he gets us a stupid fee yes. I wouldn't expect that. Yeah, but he might say "i fancy Spain and Barca can only afford 50p and a cup of tea". None of this is good for us. Fucking shite that today and if I was klopp, I would send him packing for the summer and leave the rest of it for Hughes and Edwards to sort out.

Maybe Mo thinks it might help him out the door if he falls out with klopp. He knows the fans won't have that.

There's no injury to areola. He's just adjusting his shin pads when Taylor blows. It's fucking outrageous. And you've got to couple it to the over the top of the ankle challenge on Macca in the 1st half.

Doesn't really matter what the argument is about. You don't speak to the manager like that on the touchline. If I was klopp, I'd have sat him down and told him he could go on his holidays now. He won't of course, he tried to kill the story until Mo walked through the mic zone.

Another fucking shit bag performance that. The first half was a fucking disgrace and honestly aside from robbo, the 2nd wasn't much better. These players are making me more disgusted with them by the game. Just a complete lack of seriousness about the job in hand. Some of the issues are quality, Elliot, quansah, gravenberch are all young, have room to improve, but they're not good enough. Gakpos is a massive shithouse. I lost count of the number of times he just got out the way or even made it hard for players to pass to him, he doesn't want the ball. Robbo put up some fight in the 2nd half. And I was thinking about Diaz, over recent weeks he's one who has probably come out best of this bad form. Basically because he's put himself about without quality. Yet when we were in form, he was really frustrating for doing pretty much the same thing and just running down blind alleys and slowing attacks. It shows the complete drop off in them all that he's doing the same and it takes him from ampoor performer to a good one. And as for that shit with Salah on the touchline. He can fuck off with that. If I was klopp I'd have sat him down and told him to fuck off and he wouldn't be needed for the rest of the season. The cunt didn't show that fight on the pitch on wednesday..maybe if he had, we wouldn't be in this fucking mess.

They've got to fight. There is no option. It's that or they sit with this till next season.

I think he's signed to go through to the world cup. Nagelsmann extends Germany contract until 2026 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68854834

I hope he's said that and more to the players. They should be embarrassed by their efforts on Wednesday night. The drop off may well be in part due to klopp losing some intensity as the job nears the end. But you'd think the players, if for nothing other than selfish reasons, would be fighting tooth and nail for a chance to win the title and maintain some credit in the bank with the fans with a big derby win. Since the game on Wednesday you see loads of threads about this player being shit and that player. But fuck me. I'd have sold every last one of them on Thursday morning and honestly I don't feel much different now. There's losing and there's losing like that, bullied by one of the worst Everton teams in history. They need to start to put that right today and finish the season with some massive performances.

I fucking hate these 12.30s. I don't know why anyone would not want to watch though. It gives us a chance to clean some of that shit from Wednesday night.

It's the managers responsibility if Trent has been as bad and for as long as this thread is claiming, then vvd shouting at him isn't the problem. The problem is him being picked to do the same thing over again. My personal point of view is he's nowhere near as bad as some claim on here. He's not great without the ball and I think when matip is in the team, he helps him through massively. Some players need that. But for as long as I can remember, the centre back next to Trent changes game by game. With the ball, he can do things very few people in the league can do. We have to learn to harness his best assets while improving his weakest, or at least have players around who compensate. It's what teams do.

It's funny he's suggesting things are to be run on an outcomes basis when they're going to a final. You'd think part of working at a football club would be to get perks like this. Does he think people should do charitable work for them to help improve his outcomes? It's a weird thing to do at a time where you would think they're trying to unite the club.

I would imagine carragher will do whatever sky thinks makes good TV. The thing is, if he's shit, he doesn't have to say so, because him and Neville can go at it. It's if he's in that bit where he's alright, but isn't quite hitting the heights we have with klopp is the real test.

I do get what you're saying. I guess my point is everything is about results. If he'd got them doing something shit and they were smashing it, his tactics would almost have not mattered. The same with his man management. I completely agree though some of the chumps he's managed in both Trafford and spurs should have been glad he was willing to put them on the pitch in the first place.

I think what I mean about him being yesterday's man, is he would do things like play a back 6, with his 4 defenders narrow and his wingers like fullbacks. When players think that's an effective tactic, they'll go with it. They might hate it. They might not even want to do it the first time. But when it works when they don't expect to win, then they'll do it again and again and they'll buy into other ideas they may not like. Once other teams work his system out, he keeps playing it regardless and it doesn't work, well they're not going to get that last minute of a cup final type performance out of players for a whole 90 minutes. And from there that sours everything. And then when he throws one or two under the bus, like he will, the rest of the dressing room will think he's the problem and not the player. If they were winning, that type of thing is just seen as part of the magic. Especially when Pep rhymes with cunt so well.