Davelfc

The FT graph is suggesting it will hit us much harder, we had the time to prepare but ........... I hope that when this is all over and we are recovering that people will be reminded of the businesses and people that were total twats during this worldwide crisis and that these businesses and people will become pariahs.

A 37-year-old Spanish civil guard with no underlying health conditions has died of coronavirus yesterday. He had been admitted to the Quirón hospital in Alcorcón (Madrid) for several days before being admitted to the ICU a few days ago https://elpais.com/espana/2020-03-18/muere-el-primer-guardia-civil-por-coronavirus.html?ssm=TW_CM

I despair I really do. A couple of grandparents in their 70s are now shaming another couple of grandparents who are in the at risk group, because the first ones are not going into isolation but the others are. They are saying that they will have the grandkids and that the others should stand up and do their bit too as both parents are now working from home. So basically others should risk their lives and health because they are stupid.

The government appears to have taken the unusual decision to run a mañana culture. I’ve no doubt ministers and civil servants are working flat out on solutions to the coronavirus crisis, but so far they don’t appear to have a great deal to show for their efforts. It’s as though everyone is looking at someone else to come up with the ideas. Other countries, such as Denmark and New Zealand, that were four weeks behind us in reporting their first cases, are now streets ahead of us in their health and financial bailout preparations. The UK motto appears to be “keep calm and muddle on”. Something may turn up. Though it probably won’t. t’s not just Boris Johnson’s fundamental lack of plausibility that is the problem. At Thursday evening’s daily Downing Street press conference, he seemed to have totally lost the plot. After a few days of trying to do “serious face” he had reverted to his default end-of-the-pier-show act; the Archie Rice who could no longer even entertain himself. Back were all the familiar smirks, knowing nods and third-rate gags. He sounded tonally deaf, totally at odds with the mood of the nation. When the country wants a man of substance, we get a man of straw. Coronavirus was back to being some kind of comic-book super-villain. We’d give it a good smack on the nose, dig deep for 12 weeks, and then everything would be more or less back to normal. First we take coronavirus, then we take Brexit. Both were things that could be “got done”. It’s not even as if Boris intentionally means to be glib. He’s desperate to be seen as a great leader. It’s just that he’s fundamentally psychologically flawed. He genuinely can’t bear anything that is too real or too meaningful as it exposes his narcissistic wound that can never heal. So he has to deflect, make light, minimise. Anything but empathy. That costs him far too much. What most of us wouldn’t give for a Gordon Brown or a John Major right now. Or even a Theresa May. Words I thought I’d never write. At least there was an integrity to her incompetence. You could trust her to do the wrong thing for the right reason. It’s the rest of the cabinet too, almost all of whom can be trusted to fall to the occasion. Take Gavin Williamson’s decision – some might argue a touch late – to close all schools in England at the weekend. Now it’s not as if this can have taken the country’s favourite fireplace salesman by surprise. He’s had a good six weeks to prepare for an event that everyone but him knew would sooner or later be inevitable. Yet at last night’s Downing Street press conference, he was seemingly blindsided by some of the most obvious questions, such as the details of how children of key workers would remain in school – which members of staff would be the designated teachers – and even what jobs qualified as key worker status. Gav, you had one job. One job. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/19/what-we-wouldnt-give-for-a-gordon-brown-or-john-major-right-now We desperately needed a statesman, and we have Boris. Shit!

Me personally, no. I'm doing my thing based on what I believe.

People are dumb and at times of national emergencies they look to leaders for direction. "Um er, Um.... urine..." isn't working. The buffoon has allowed the shops to get ransacked, that could have been controlled. There appears to be absolutely no plan, no direction and a free for all. Worse still the two goons we are trusting our lives to changed their minds over the weekend, then did pretty much nothing. Oh let's wait another week and then if you don't mind could old people and some others go and live like hermits for 3 months. Compared to what we are seeing across the world it's a fucking joke.

There's a clear lack of firm guidance here, it's all 'could you please' and 'if you don't mind' My family don't appear to be a problem. I am still hearing "it's just the flu, it's fine" from others though. We are way down the list when it comes to countries with elderly population. We should not end up worse than Italy really but we could. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-largest-aging-population-in-the-world.html

If this remains the same it will be carnage here. Talking with someone who's parents are over 70 with conditions and they refuse to not have the grandchildren. They just don't get it and I lay a lot of the blame on the lack of firm guidance and action from the government. I get that people are stubborn and I get that they are asking a lot but it's almost as if they want the mass death of a huge swathe of the weak and vulnerable. That and a lot of people are selfish stupid pricks. We should have been locked down, firm orders given and people would follow. I just don't see the point in not trying to contain this and allowing the movement of people for so long when they know what it coming. Their plan from last Friday is still the same pretty much with a coat of fresh paint. I sit here and think, is me overacting or what.

• Italy now has more Covid-19 deaths than China’s total• UK remains on a steeper mortality curve than Italy, while Britain remains far from lockdown

Budget airline EasyJet has asked pilots and cabin crew to agree to sweeping changes in their terms and conditions, as part of its response to coronavirus.Among the proposed changes are a freeze on planned pay rises and a requirement to take three months of unpaid leave. The airline would also no longer provide food for crew during their shifts, only water.People close to the talks said the proposals went down very badly, particularly among pilots.However, there remains a willingness to make concessions in order to avoid redundancies. Further talks between EasyJet and unions representing pilots and cabin crew are expected today.Meanwhile, EasyJet's chief executive Johan Lundgren has defended the payment of £170m in dividends to shareholders, at a time when the company is seeking financial help from the government.

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain is in talks to buy a coronavirus antibody test that could be a game changer if it works, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Thursday. “We are in negotiations today to buy a so-called antibody test, as simple as a pregnancy test, that can tell whether you have had the disease,” Johnson said. “It is early days but if it works as its proponents claim, then we will buy literally hundreds of thousands of these kits as soon as practicable because obviously it has the potential to be a total game changer,” he told reporters.

Did she leave that pinned to the gates of Buck palace before she fucked off?

That's so blind people can appreciate her looks too. She's Duane Dibbley's mother.

Early evidence from human cells suggests that chloroquine — which is used to treat malaria and autoimmune diseases — may have some activity against the novel coronavirus. Doctors in China, the US and other countries have used the drug experimentally in COVID-19 patients, but there is not yet sufficient clinical evidence that it’s effective in humans. The drug, generally considered to be safe for most patients, can have side effects including seizures, nausea, vomiting, deafness, vision changes and low blood pressure. When asked about chloroquine last month, Dr. Janet Diaz of the World Health Organization said “there is no proof that that is an effective treatment at this time. We recommend that therapeutics be tested under ethically approved clinical trials to show efficacy and safety.” At the time, she said the drugs that were being prioritized by WHO’s research and development efforts were antivirals, a separate type of drug that includes remdesivir, which is also the focus of clinical trials in China and the US. https://fox4kc.com/tracking-coronavirus/trump-says-fda-will-fast-track-anti-viral-treatments-for-patients-with-coronavirus/

My son who vapes (gave up smoking a while ago) still has the chest pain, I was wondering how much that affected him. He is fit and health and normal BMI, plays footy etc.

I hope not otherwise I would have put Corden instead of Jimmy Greaves. The OP didn't express that it was that.

American adults of all ages — not just those in their 70s, 80s and 90s — are being seriously sickened by the coronavirus, according to a report on nearly 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the United States. The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalized. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalized, 38 percent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the C.D.C. reported. “I think everyone should be paying attention to this,” said Stephen S. Morse, a professor of epidemiology at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health. “It’s not just going to be the elderly. There will be people age 20 and up. They do have to be careful, even if they think that they’re young and healthy.” The findings served to underscore an appeal issued Wednesday at a White House briefing by Dr. Deborah Birx, a physician and State Department official who is a leader of the administration’s coronavirus task force. Citing similar reports of young adults in Italy and in France being hospitalized and needing intensive care, Dr. Birx implored the millennial generation to stop socializing in groups and to take care to protect themselves and others. “You have the potential then to spread it to someone who does have a condition that none of us knew about, and cause them to have a disastrous outcome,” Dr. Birx said, addressing young people. In the C.D.C. report, 20 percent of the hospitalized patients and 12 percent of the intensive care patients were between the ages of 20 and 44, basically spanning the millennial generation. “Younger people may feel more confident about their ability to withstand a virus like this,” said Dr. Christopher Carlsten, head of respiratory medicine at the University of British Columbia. But, he said, “if that many younger people are being hospitalized, that means that there are a lot of young people in the community that are walking around with the infection.” The new data represents a preliminary look at the first significant wave of cases in the United States that does not include people who returned to the country from Wuhan, China, or from Japan, the authors reported. Between Feb. 12 and March 16, there were 4,226 such cases reported to the C.D.C., the study says. The ages were reported for 2,449 of those patients, the C.D.C. said, and of those, 6 percent were 85 and older, and 25 percent were between 65 and 84. Twenty-nine percent were aged 20 to 44. The age groups of 55 to 64 and 45 to 54 each included 18 percent of the total. Only 5 percent of cases were diagnosed in people 19 and younger. The risk of a patient requiring hospitalization or dying of the infection caused by the coronavirus increased with age, as has been the pattern in other countries. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/younger-adults-comprise-big-portion-of-coronavirus-hospitalizations-in-us/ar-BB11nGEB?li=BBnb7Kz

Tony Moanero

The latest chart, I'll update when the new one is out.

Jeremy Clarkson Richard Keys Jimmy Greaves

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-uk-update-universal-basic-income-iain-duncan-smith-a9411251.html Coronavirus: Iain Duncan Smith says don’t bring in universal basic income during pandemic as it would be ‘disincentive to work’ Thats sort of the fucking point you murdering tory fucking cunt.

We played the Z-Cars theme for Rhys Jones at Anfield as a tribute. It was roundly applauded and a touching moment. Any blues that use something like this to promote hate need to get their priorities sorted.

128 Covid-19 related deaths now (UK) 29 new deaths, age 47-96 all with underlying health conditions.