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I was boring my kids by telling them that if a couple both worked when I was a kid, then that family was rich. Now both partners need to work to get by. Have kids and it's very difficult as my daughter is discovering. The automation of the housewife has opened the door for both partners to work but as has been alluded to, we are seeing many side effects because of this. II read that the poorer you are the more likely you are to be obese, a complete reversal from old times. https://www.diabetes.org.uk/About_us/News_Landing_Page/Societys-poorest-most-likely-to-be-obese

I've never heard women speak about the physical looks of any male sports players, never. The five minutes I watched was spent mentally saying "Would, nah, would, definitely, maybe, oh yes bang that like a fucking drum" Because there was no real football to entertain me, would I watch any of it again, nah there's the internet if I need to see sexy women in shorts. If either of the teams could have brought on someone with bigger boobs I might have stuck with it.

I'd like my grandchildren to have a long and healthy life too, there are no guarantees on this fragile rock.

Yeah I agree, there are far too many changes to our lives to try to fix things, the only chance we have ironically would be a near extinction event. A bit drastic but sending us back a few hundred or so years and decimating billions would solve a lot until the next time. That's my solution, the destruction of billions of people by a natural force. I'd never go into politics.

First Tesco and now UNESCO https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/unesco-makes-final-liverpool-world-16523037 I see another scapegoat here and a chance to get out of the stadium they were never building anyway. UNESCO's World Heritage Committee has ruled on Liverpool's future famous status The committee met in Azerbaijan yesterday and ratified a draft decision that leaves the city on the brink of losing the iconic status that it has held since 2004. The city's status has been on the 'danger' list for potentially losing the status since Peel's 30-year Liverpool Waters project was approved in 2012. The committee has now confirmed its 'extreme concern' at what it cites as inaction by the city council and UK government to address concerns and halt any building in the area or the 'buffer zone' around it. The council says it is working hard in the background to address those concerns - but the committee's decision now starts the clock for the status potentially being deleted next year. A major added complication to matters is the proposal for Everton to build its new stadium on the historic docks - although no plans have formally been submitted for the project yet. Speaking yesterday, Mayor Anderson said developments like those from Peel and Everton are more important than keeping the city's World Heritage Status. He told the BBC: "It is more important we secure a future for our city... for our grandchildren... and protect our city than protect a derelict site." He said visitors did not go to Bramley Moore Docks. They went to Mathew Street, on The Beatles' tours or on visits to listed buildings.

They made smoking illegal in many places, it's basically banned almost everywhere. Drinking kills many people and ruins lives, not just drunken drivers. These are toxins, that the users of are heavily taxed for using. Also nicotine is very addictive, Nicotine is MORE addictive than cocaine, morphine, heroin or alcohol – affecting BOTH sides of your brain. https://www.stopsmoking.news/2015-12-10-smoking-fact-nicotine-is-more-addictive-than-cocaine-morphine-heroin-or-alcohol-affecting-both-sides-of-your-brain.html I'm not saying that fast food isn't addictive but I doubt at the level of nicotine. I have some sympathy for smokers because of the addictiveness and a little sympathy for drinkers as a lot drink to blank out some horrible events in their lives or just their horrible lives. I know that many people comfort eat (bell curve again) but not all of them go on to be morbidly obese.

Yep, I get that and part of living in this civilised society is that we care and accept that we will often have to pay for the poor choices of others as well as those who have no choices as to how their health is. I'll repeat my point again, the whole "My body, my choice" argument that is made when it comes to some morbidly obese people and the denial by calling it fat shaming is not acceptable and these people need to start taking some responsibility. That's it, not calling for public executions. I can agree all points of the bell curve with you, it might save some time. By using my eyes and my memory I can say for absolute certain that morbid obesity in the young was not a big issue when I was younger. We had a fat kid at school although he wasn't morbidly obese, there was drug abuse and a whole host of illnesses back then, medical science has made some amazing breakthroughs. Illness back then generally resulted in gaunt, skinny people, my limited experience of course yours might be different. Undoubtedly a sedentary lifestyle, cars, internet and a huge increase on the high street of fast food establishments has severely affected the nation. Can't see way it's going to be solved. Especially when Boris today is talking of possibly removing 'sin taxes' on sugar etc. I've always thought you could tax to the hilt poor foods and then have a negative tax on healthy foods to compensate. Unfortunately, the government often only sees the opportunity to make money from others suffering.

So they're not buying him then.

Free, I mean at the point of use as opposed to a private health system. If you've never worked and find yourself morbidly obese, you're effectively getting free health care for your conditions that come as a result. In any case, my point stands. The "my body, my choice" argument in obesity doesn't cut it for me, many people will pay for your poor choices. Pedant clause : https://fullfact.org/health/nhs-not-always-free-point-use/

Fixing it will cost a fortune, leaving it alone will cost a fortune. My particular comments take on the "It's my body so I can do what I want" which while true, is a selfish attitude because it costs us all, not just in money. We have a free health service that is crumbling before our very eyes, partly because it's been starved of money, partly because of mismanagement and partly because it's dealing with conditions it was never designed to deal with, as well as a lot of other factors. I do not have answers, but denial isn't an answer. Like many issues, the government either won't deal with them because it could lose votes or won't deal with them because it could lose money. One day peddlers of junk food might be treated the same way as tobacco companies, one day. Not in my lifetime I fear.

Almost every single person I have spoken to that gave up cigarettes has said they just ate more to compensate. This was before vaping though, so I don't know if that makes any difference these days. When you consider the toxins that you inhale when you smoke and the work your body has to do to try and fix the damage every day, I don't think you were wrong to give up.

Fucking hell, a bloke I knew at work (a right bitter blue) won the spot the ball, now I know why.

Discrimination and stigmatization against obese people have become pervasive, occurring in schools, public places, public transports and in workplaces. The reasons for this level of discrimination might not be unconnected to the perceived and genuine problems associated with obesity. However, the effects of stigmatization and discrimination on the physical and mental health of the obese individuals call for drastic actions to curb these social injustices. Most people have the belief that obesity is preventable and controllable. They see obese people as architects of their condition due to physical inactivity and excessive eating. As a result, they show negative attitudes towards the obese seeing them as people who are lazy with lack of willpower and therefore treat them with less respect. Obese people experience a lot of stigmatization from healthy weight individuals by calling them unacceptable names or passing derogatory comments on them. They may also experience physical aggression and social isolation. Obesity has been associated with many diseases that negatively impact the quality of life and some that are even life-threatening. Cardiovascular diseases, diabetes mellitus, osteoarthritis, sleep apnea with its attendant daytime sleepiness, are conditions that can affect the productivity and efficiency of an obese person at work. Managing these disease conditions also come at a higher cost to the employers of labor. It is therefore not surprising that most companies often deny obese individuals employment. https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity/discrimination/

Live and let live eh? My body my choice, they say. Well in a nation where there is a shared responsibility for paying for the health service, no. You have a responsibility for your health if it ends up costing everyone else billions. It is estimated that the NHS spent £6.1 billion on overweight and obesity-related ill-health in 2014 to 2015. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/health-matters-obesity-and-the-food-environment/health-matters-obesity-and-the-food-environment--2 Yes, the government and large companies that peddle the shit that causes a lot of obesity have a massive responsibility. Poor advice, criminally bad advice and ignoring the warning signs for years have all contributed to where we are now. In this current crazy world we live in warnings about your health are being classed by those in the permanent denial stage as fat shaming. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/cancer-research-uk-slammed-yet-again-for-shaming-advert-likening-obesity-to-smoking_uk_5d19d29ce4b03d61163e64ed?ncid=other_moreonthis_csjr20wby6g I get that as we age it's more difficult to keep the pounds off, also for some there's a medical reason. Nobody is really pointing the finger at people with a little flab, or a bit of a belly. But when you have baby wrists and cankles it's not fat shaming, it's pretty serious stuff. I don't have answers, they're not going to stop fast food from being sold. Not that long ago the poor were skinny and malnourished, now they're morbidly obese and malnourished. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3313629/ We watch appeal videos of starving kids and it quite rightly plucks at our heartstrings, today's obese children malnourished and need help too, but very little will be done. Schools robbed of essential cash sold off their playing fields. Not that it would matter, we had one kid that always brought in a note to excuse them from PE. In today's world, there might be one kid with a note that permits PE. Shit food is so cheap, in a world where there is almost nothing for the modern housewife (or househusband) to do as technology does all the work, is it too much to ask that they turn off the tv, put the ipad down and fucking cook a proper meal for their family? I find it all really sad, young people with racing metabolisms at the height of what should be their healthy years and they are morbidly obese. Nobody really cares it seems. Maybe the government has finally found a way to be able to afford pensions and free bus passes.

Obesity is now a bigger cause of many types of cancer than smoking, scientists have revealed. Excess weight causes thousands of more cases of bowel, kidney, liver and ovarian cancer than cigarettes every year. And people who are dangerously overweight now outweigh smokers by two to one, experts say, with almost a third of British adults classed as obese. Smoking remains the leading preventable cause of cancer but the number of smokers is falling while obesity rates rise. The figures were released by Cancer Research UK in the midst of a 'fat shaming' row centred around their latest campaign raising awareness of the dangers of obesity. The charity has revealed around 1,900 more cases of bowel cancer are caused by obesity than smoking in the UK each year. Being dangerously overweight also causes 1,400 more cases of kidney cancer, 460 more cases of ovarian cancer and 180 more cases of liver cancer than smoking does. And although smoking is more damaging, sheer numbers mean the burden of obesity-related disease is swelling. There are around 13.4million obese people who don't smoke, compared to 6.3million smokers who are a healthy weight. It's a problem which isn't showing signs of slowing down, either, with one in 10 children now obese by the age of five and a fifth of them overweight by age 11.

Did anyone launch a Boaty McBoatface 2000 torpedo? https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28804/heres-everything-we-know-about-the-deadly-russian-submarine-fire Unconfirmed reports say that the incident occurred on board the Project 10831 Losharik, one of the Russian Navy's secretive "special projects" spy subs, a submersible it had launched, or its larger modified Project 667BDRM Delfin-class mothership submarine, the BS-64 Podmoskovye. This is still very much a developing story, so all of this information could be subject to change.

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Fourteen Russian sailors were killed when a fire broke out while their deep-water research submarine was carrying out a survey of the sea floor near the Arctic, the Russian defence ministry said on Tuesday. A Russian media outlet, RBC, cited an unnamed military source as saying the submarine was nuclear-powered, but Russian officials made no comment on the type of vessel involved. The incident was the deadliest involving a Russian naval submarine since August 2000, when the nuclear-powered Kursk sank to the floor of Barents Sea after two explosions in its bow, killing all 118 men aboard. The latest incident also took place in the vicinity of the Barents Sea. Authorities in nearby Norway said they were monitoring but had not detected abnormally high levels of radiation.

Is the Balkan 2000 torpedo even a thing, also I thought they could scuttle their own sub but not someone else's.

A Russian sub sinking a US Submarine,(spurious rumours)

Not watched any of this before, not planning on watching this. Just put my tv on to watch Justified and it was left on the BBC. Caught the last 5 minutes and I was not disappointed. Has Allardyce been coaching this USA team? The short bit I watched reminded me of when I used to play sensible soccer, I wasn't that good at it.

Dimbo spends £100 on a Dumbo.

News story in the Echo today Mum furious after spending £100 trying to get teddy from 'rigged' claw machine

That's shopped, literally.