bouncebrigade

Ain't that the truth. *Contemplates where to go for a pint after work*

Well said, Tony.

That's not the point I just made.

Maybe then look at how far they are behind the champions in each year.

We had a phenomenal record in 2013/'14 when he was suspended. In fact, a better win ratio without him than with him (over the course of many matches). Of course, I'd rather we still had him. But the two are not comparable. Take De Gea out of that team and their win ratio would plummet.

With respect Tom, you could show a tramp on the street the table from this year and last and he may conclude that they are "better" this year. I think as football fans it is wortwhile to take it a step further and ask whether they really are better than last year, if so then why, how does the future look etc. But if you want to bang your first on the table and say they are better this year without any further qualifications, then please be my guest.

Also a bit hollow to compare to last season, probably the worst in living memory for them. Of course it's points on the board that count. But from a medium- to long-term perspective, I'd prefer if my team wasn't relying on the heroics of a young Spanish goalkeeper who could well fuck off to his homeland in the summer.

The league table doesn't lie, so anyone who argues United are a better side this year is technically correct (albeit only just). However, a closer look at the facts reveals a different picture. De Gea is nailed on player of the year for United, will be in the PFA Team of the year etc etc. I would hazard a guess that if we had De Gea and they had Mignolet / Jones then we would be second and potentially in a title race and they would be 7th or 8th. Of course I can't prove this, but it is my opinion. Of course, they are entitled to have a world class keeper, but you need a bit more than that to build a strong side. LVG has bought woefully. Di Maria was never a £60m player. Luke Shaw - WTF? His tactics and formations are equally puzzling - Rooney in midfield, Fellanin first name on the teamsheet. He may well get fourth, although I don't think so myself. Either way, I hope they keep LVG in the job.

It's debatable if United have improved. They might have marginally more league points but, from a high level, they don't seem to be going anywhere. They are very dependant on a few players whereas we seem a lot more balanced. There's still room for improvement but I'd take our starting XI and squad over theirs any day of the week.

Lambert to come on and piledrive Smalling's head through the turf.

Tyler trying to recreate the magic of '99. He gives me ear AIDS.

Scotland in the sun.

We're not in a title race this year so I suspect it won't be like the City game, but not quite a library either, given that it is them cunts and all.

Did you temporarily lose your Internet connection?

£45 vs. £90. So the difference is £45. If that's what you're asking me.

And that's only for the shit seats. You can double that for some Arsenal seats (from what I hear).

And he's slotting his manhood into a remarkably attractive piece of skirt.

This thread is at least five days too early.

The fart that doesn't smell.

There's no doubting how good he was tonight. Hardly put a foot wrong.

Allen Mignolet Skrtel

Serious firepower.

How long can we carry Jermaine Pennant?

You should all hang your heads in shame.

Seems like a good guy, probably why he won't cut it in football management.