The Woolster

Sorry, seems I didn't change Mugabe to Prince Phillip...

I'll double check, I used the spreadsheet I had from last year and updated that, I may have not done it properly...

I need to replace Valery Harper And @Jenson @littletedwest, @Babb'sBurstNad and @redheart need to replace Mugabe

Scores on the Doors Woolster - 60 ponts MegadriveMan and redheart - 30 points Skend04 and littletedwest - 20 points VladimirIlyich, Jenson, Babb'sBurstnad, Thoth and Nelly-Torres - 10 points

@Fowlers God must still be on his conf call... I've based the scoring on the entries above and redheart, but who were the other late entries and who did you have on your lists?

Anyone with Mugabe can fist pump without that tinge of shame!

Yes, post them on here

I missed Valerie Harper! And Mugabe was high up in my list for next replacements! I think @Fowlers God isn't around much anymore, I did ask for the spreadsheet so I could do the updates, but didn't hear back. I'll get the info together, if not today then next week.

"They", as in the Glazers, have spent nothing, it is the club that has earned the money they've spent. That fact that it is revenues absolutely changes that fact. In 2018 they had revenues that were £135m more than us, that very clearly has an effect on what they can afford to spend on transfers and wages compared to us. The Glazers have in fact taken money out, over the past 3 years they have taken out £65m in dividends. They also pay themselves wages, there are 12 directors, the Glazer make up 6 of them. Don't know what the break down is, but the board were paid £13m last year. Haven't a clue how much it is over their entire ownership, but imagine it is hundreds of millions. They are successfully doing what to Utd what Hicks and Gillett tried to do to us.

My boy Woodburn came on in the 67th minute of the League Cup tie against Millwall and won the penalty that Oxford got to equalise in injury time having bern 2-0 down with 3 minutes left. Them scored in the penalty shootout that Oxford won

Don't think there was a refinance. It had been said that the loan would be interest free, but when the accounts were published you could see there was interest on the loans. But apparently FSG had borrowed the money themselves, and lent on to us at the same rate

Its the opposite. It was originally stated that the roughly £110 loan would be repaid over 5 and half years, so you are looking at about £20m per year. As at the last set of published accounts, so May last year, only £10m had been paid back compared to the £30-40m (could depend on the payment dates) that we would expect if it was being paid back evenly of the term of the debt. Much of what wasn't paid back was used for transfers over those 2 seasons. So as of this year, we should have paid back £60m, for next summer, it is £80m. We don't know yet if anything was paid back this year just gone, it is also possible FSG may extend the term of the debt so the repayments could be spread over a longer period, but if they haven't, and if we didn't catch up with out payments last year, then there could be a big chunk of debt that needs to be paid off either this season or next. when you include the £50m being spent on Kirkby, then I can see why we the purse strings might be a bit tight this season.

The main reason we are not doing any spending this summer is possibly because we are finally paying for the Main Stand, is that something you could cope with?

Junior Agogo is a gone gone... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49434573 I feel a bit bad about punning that one to be honest. We played for the same U16 team. In our league we finished tied at the top, had a play-off for the title and he scored the winner with 5 minutes left. He was the only one in the team to make it as a pro, even though he wasn't the best player in the team, and ended up playing with players like Stoichkov and Essien and playing international football. Haven't seen him for about 20 years mind.

I think the way suggested is the correct way of doing it, because any other way would be distorted by subjectivity, but you just have to be aware of the bias in the results, so you can't necessarily compare to 'without VAR', you should probably only compare to decisions given to opposition.

The issue here is that referees and their assistants will be minded to let the play go one rather than calling tight decisions that they would have made without VAR. If it is a close offside, they will more likely play on, if there is a penalty call, they may not make it knowing that it can be reviewed etc

Glad to see the Liverpool scouts are following my suggestions again... Now go buy Lozano or Eriksen!

And this is the other method of calculating the transfer spending, using the balance sheet. The balance sheet disposals were £137.1m (you have to include profits of transfers to get to this number), giving Net transfer additions of £58.1m.

Our annual accounts can be found here https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00035668/filing-history There's a couple of ways to calculate transfer spending, my preference is to you the cash flow figures as this will include what we spend on agent fees and other transfer related costs, as you are missing out a big part of the picture if you don't included them and it is how the club should look at it as well, but it is not quite the same as most view net spend. If you open the accounts to May 2018 and go to Statement of Cash Flows on page 15, you can see see entries for "Proceeds from sale of player registrations" and "Acquisition of player registrations", we spent £49.2m in 2017/18 and £38.8m the season before that. You could check the previous accounts for the earlier seasons, or you can believe me when I say it was £37.8m, £58.7m, £53.3m and £44.3m going each year going back (if you listened to my previous advice, you should realise that you should not trust me and you should check yourself to be sure...)

Yeah, someone posted that list back in February... As it stands we have not received in the region of £20m of the Coutinho fee that they state, and they don't compare apples with apples. I dunno, seems like a bit of an error to me. Whilst not broken out to an individual transfer level, the amount the we spend and receive on transfers is available in our annual accounts, the only issue is that they are always 1 to 2 summer transfer windows behind.

My bang the drum thread and financial analysis is worth the members fee alone!

We spent £88m in 2016/17 and 2017/18, probably a couple of millions when we bought Grujic in his first window, and we spent vastly more than what came in last season, so I think you are a bit out there with your £80m approximation.

I like the cut of your jib Jose... I put some turnover to wage ratio stuff on the MF yesterday!

Based on the accounts from 2012/13 to 2017/18 it was £47m a year

I've said it many times in this thread I'm sure, but as of the last set of accounts, they had not taken a penny out of the club other than to repay some of what they had lent to the club. Of course they are in it to make money, and at some stage they may decide to take out some dividends, but they will really make their money when the sell up, in whole or in part, and so taking cash out now will reduce the potential value of the club, and their profits, in the future. They have, do, and will make mistakes, but no need to make things up.