mike23

If the ref had decided it was a foul then fair enough, but in no way was that an incident VAR should have been intervening in. The lack of consistency in how it's used is genuinely infuriating.

It really took some going to throw that game away against a completely disinterested team after going 2-1 up. The defence seems to concede under the slightest bit of pressure. They never got organized again after Alisson flapped at that cross. Every game recently we've had opposition players throwing themselves in the way of what look like certain goals for us and making great blocks. At the other end we're just leaving players completely unmarked in the box with no one even close enough to make the chances difficult. The second half was miles better, but again all you can do is ask why it always needs to wait until the second half - and usually going a goal down - for it to happen. If they'd started the game with that attitude then they'd have won comfortably. The finishing was generally terrible yet again. Just players either missing the target or hitting shots tamely straight at the keeper. Even the 2 goals we scored involved a shot the keeper should have saved and an own goal which deflected off about 3 of their players. There were plenty of opportunities to get a third goal to wrap it up after it went to 2-1. It was so predictable that if we didn't get it that we would end up paying the price as defensively we seem to be completely incapable of digging in and seeing a game out. Elliot's shot hitting the bar at the end pretty much just sums up how things have been going for the last few weeks. When things are going well those go in. Taylor was as shit as ever. Why is he blowing his whistle there before Gakpo puts it in? It clearly wasn't a freekick. The look of sheer relief on his face was genuinely comical in the first half when he realized it was offside when there was a penalty incident so blatant he couldn't possibly not give it. But it's clutching at straws blaming the ref today. Our players are far more to blame. They threw away 2 more points because they can't get the basics right at either end of the pitch and because they seem to be completely incapable of starting games properly. Hiring a decent psychologist might be more important than who they hire as the new manager. I can't imagine there will be wholesale squad changes. Like it or not, most of these players will be back next year, and someone has to try and get to the bottom of how the hell a team everyone was praising for their mentality has completely shit the bed game when it mattered most.

Pathetic again. I had low expectations for today and they've somehow managed to fail to even reach them. It will be a really impressive achievement to lose to a team who for 40 odd minutes looked like they just wanted the game to be over so they could get on with the rest of their weekend. I feel stupid for ever having belief in this team. What a bunch of completely gutless cowardly losers.

It's in danger of becoming as depressing as Gerrard's farewell tour.

I've desperately wanted to get on board the Nunez train. I hear how passionately some fans talk about him and I've really wanted to be a fellow believer, but the sheer number of terrible misses has just made it impossible to do so. I think him smashing the ball straight at Pickford tonight when he had all the time in the world and the entire goal to aim at was the moment when the train just entirely derailed for me. Enough is enough. Some of the misses this season have been genuinely staggering.

No point bemoaning the decisions that went against us any more. If this team had held a bigger lead they'd have just had a bigger collapse. Complete and utter pretenders in the end.

I thought he should have saved the first one although there were far worse culprits on that goal.

Thanks for all the happy memories, Jurgen. We've all been worried everything would fall apart as soon as he left. It seems the players have decided to make a head start on this and crumble before he's even out the door. The Palace game, the 2 games against Atalanta, and tonight have been as bad as anything we have ever seen under him. Diaz has been okay tonight. At least he's tried. Everyone else has been utter garbage. Well done to Mo for managing to stand out as being especially shit and producing the worst performance I have seen from a Liverpool forward since Balotelli away at QPR under Rodgers.

This team can go fuck themselves.

Were this team actually surprised that Everton were up for this game at the start? I've given up asking how they can keep starting games like they're half asleep. You'd think if it happened once or twice it would lead to adjustments and extra focus, but it's just the same half-assed crap at the start of every single game. The only thing more incompetent than the goal we conceded was the finishing from the forwards. The finishing since the trip to Old Trafford has been genuinely embarrassing. If they're not missing the target altogether it's just some tame shot straight at the keeper even when they have all the time in the world and the entire goal to aim at. I'm not sure I'd be confident in them scoring if they were faced with an open goal a yard out at present. It's a shame Jota is made of biscuits. I'm genuinely sick of watching Nunez now. I've really wanted to get on board the Darwin train, but that train is now completely derailed for me. Mo resembles someone who has won a competition to play for a premier league team now. We may turn it around. Probably not. I'm pretty much past the point of caring now. This team seems to have suffered a collective lobotomy since the FA Cup loss at Old Trafford. The ref has been an utter joke as well. Soft foul after soft foul for them, including a joke of a decision for the freekick that led to the goal. I can understand why Klopp is so livid, particularly as it's a completely different story whenever they commit fouls. But if we drop points here it's on us. These are absolutely shit, and to approach a derby at this point of the season with the title still on the line and to not be right at it right from the first whistle is absolutely unforgiveable.

Genuinely sick of watching this team. Just the same old shit every game in what is rapidly becoming the most pathetic title charge in history. Forward missing a sitter -check. Slow tempo and constant aimless passing about at the back - check. Making an utter mess of an attack with an overload of attackers where everyone just gets in each others way and we don't even get a shot on goal let alone score from it - check. Failure to do even the basics defensively and yet again failing to keep a clean sheet - check. It was all set up for us to go and get a second and have an easy win. Instead we somehow concede to a team who barely even looked interested. Arsenal go a goal up and you know that's it. We go a goal up and it never is. Trent has been decent. No one else has. Endo looks like he's lost the ability to move let alone run. Someone in the team needs to start showing some leadership and taking some responsibility because otherwise the title challenge is done today.

Decentish first half. Utterly pitiful second half. Maybe if Mo hadn't missed that complete sitter it might have been completely different, but it seems too much to ask of our forwards to score even easy chances at the moment. This team just looks to be completely shot physically and mentally.

As soul destroying as the last week has been, at least we can console ourselves that we're not Everton fans. Pretty much every week seems to be like this for them. No wonder so many of them are mental.

Dave's talk of this all being part of the narrative is a lovely idea. If this was a Hollywood movie this would definitely be the part where everything looks bleak and hopeless for the protagonists. In the movie Klopp and the players would at about this point learn some important life lesson which would help them finish the movie triumphant.. There would be a joyful final scene in which they paraded the premier league trophy through the streets of Liverpool in front of millions of happy fans and then one final still of Klopp rising his fist in triumph to the crowd (with maybe a brief cut scene to chief antagonist Pep Guardiola miserably watching the scenes on TV at City's training ground and then turning his fury on Howard Webb who stands quivering in front of his desk, demanding to know how Webb's PGMOL gimps allowed this to happen). Unfortunately, as we've seen before, the Premier League doesn't seem to do happy Hollywood endings. The only lessons ever learned are bleak ones. The bad guys always win and never face any consequences for their actions. This all just seems to be shaping up to be another really shitty ending in which, even if we somehow sort ourselves out again and win all our remaining games, City just mechanically tick off win after win while friendly officials step in to help out if things are ever in danger of getting a bit dicey for them Football is really shit sometimes. Thanks for the pod. I feel pretty much the same. Not angry, just disappointed. This hasn't happened through lack of effort or desire, but the pressure has definitely got to most of the players. Sometimes strengths become weaknesses if not used wisely, and passion and desire just seem to have turned into desperation in the past week for this club.

This last week has just felt like the sort of week that happened at the business end of seasons under Roy Evans. Didn't we also have a 0-3 first leg defeat in Europe against PSG in the same season you're talking about? I seem to recall David James having a couple of screw ups in that game as well as multiple errors in important league games.