Red Spartan

Now you are just asking for it....... I dont agree with that at all. Say what you like but in Gerrard, Alonso, Barry (hopefully), Babbel, Yossi, Masch and sometimes Keane and Kuyt we have a supreme midfield that can slug it off with the best out there. They are technical, quick, intelligent, excellent movement, strong, winning mentallity and can score from anywhere. Why do lack faith dear friend. We have a winning squad.

God forbid......sign him now and get it over and done with! If it is a January signing I would want to know why..........

Agreed. Kuyt just offers so much off the ball people who critisize him dont see all the work that he does. I think Yossi and Kuyt complement each other perfectly as one is good on the ball and the other does all the things thats not seen. He tracks back, closes down, piles on the pressure, can tackel, score and has decent movement up front. Yossi can open up defenses on a whim, make a killer pass, score goals and makes excellent runs behind defences.

Even so I would like to think that Liverpool have some top notch accountants that would ensure that this deal goes through. Whats the point of having to go through the entire summer to reach this point only to have the transfer stalled on some bureaucratic technicality. Its in Liverpools court and it seems very quite. Just worried.......

This is getting very tedious. Why has it stalled so much I dont know! I hate to say this but is Liverpool having difficulties in raising the funds??

I dont get why there was any doubt to begin with. I mean I knew about the interest from Roma about Yossi but Kuyt i did not know. In any case, I would keep them both, they are part of the "quality" equation to the squad. They add depth and can be used in multiple positions. Since the Roma interest surfaced I said that Rafa would not and should not sell Yossi for any price. The same goes for Kuyt. The guy just too much for the team that directly contributes to the teams winning attitude. He does a bit of everything, an all round Liverpool player thats too valuable to the squad. Yossi and Kuyt are part of what makes Liverpool tick and win games. Selling them was never an option in my view.

Kid looks good. Just a younger, faster, technically superior version of Crouchy. Helps that you can pick him out amongst other players.

I was refering to the reply of 8million being the maximum amount we can bring in for Yossi, and even though I personally would not sell him, 8million for a player of Yossis calibre is not much. I would not sell him, but people do like to evaluate their prize assets. To me, what Yossi brings to the team cannot be evaluate and thats why I said not to sell him at any price.

I wonder whos chin packs more of a punch....Chuck Norris or Martin Skertel??

I have been on here before and I have to admit that before yesterday I was suportive of Alonso leaving in favour for Barry. Now I am not so sure...... In the past few seasons we have seen Alonso play behind the attacking midfield, in front of the defence. As in very deep trying to dictate the play with his long range passing. Yesterday I saw him play very foward, supporting the attack....and I must say it was like watching a different player. He can pick out mid range passing with ease and can also pick up the ball from outside the box and score. I mean I still support the managers decision to bring in Barry but not at the expense of Alonso. If he is used where he was used yesterday then he can be a very usefull player to have in that positon....

Even then I would think twice about it. He has what it takes to go up against better oposition and come out a winner. His link up play is good and now he is developing a really good left foot of which he can score from anywhere. Yossi score from a position yesterday which Keane could not. What does that say? Sure he is an ugly bastard but lets not hold that againt him.......

No way in hell would I consider to sell Yossi. He is a top class player with an eye for goal and a killer pass. His is skillfull as he is intelligent. Rafa should not sell one of his creative midfielders for any kind of profit. We need him as much as we need Torres, Gerrard, Agger or Masch. He is an important squad player that gives you more options in attack. If Rafa does decide to sell him I will be full on against it as Yossi has not done anything to justify any kind of transfer to another club. To add he has scored some good goals in preseason that should cement his place in the starting XI. If I am being honest here, Yossi is one of those players that can have either a decent game or a world class game. He is a better Luis Garcia player. He can play on the wing, in the middle or in the hole. He can score, pass, link up and is strong with great intelligence. Rafa do not sell him, for any price.....

Just emphasizing that if you do vote for third that you are absolutely certain that comning second is not a viable outcome. And who the hell voted for outside the top 4??

I wholeheartly agree with that post. I am even going to rep you. The fact that Beintex wants Barry and Keane in the squad means that he has identified a weakness within the team and seeks players that can make the squad better. That enough for me to back him up.....

The reason why I do not agree with your use of Pennant is that I do not categorise him as a class player so in effect it would take longer for him to adapt or even to have an impact on the team. He never had quality performances and as such I did not see at the time why Rafa signed him. Keane on the other hand is a consistent performing goalscorer who is rated highly in anyones book. A players player if you will. As such Keane and Pennant would not adapt in the same time period that you have set out (2 years) as in many ways Pennant is an inferior player to Keane. So we move on from Pennant to Bellamy who is a similar player but moved on why. Why? Because although Bellamy had tons of experience he did not simply socre goals or do enough for the team. Comparing straight talent of Keane and Villa and in many ways Keane will come up short, however I can see him adapting faster in the Liverpool team than Villa and in some way scoring more goals than him that dont only require talent but also experience.