Mascherano

I havent seen what the fuss is with Woodburn before todays game but his passing range from the centre was great.

That would be a coming out that is totally beyond me!

I dont know what to say. Ill give you my answer at my coming out party.

Thank you. Im straight, btw. It seems like a nice town in Cheshire.

A swap, financially it seems anyway, for Stewart sorts out the fact that he will cost £8m, but i have issues with the quality. Imagine Milner needing a break and having to make a choice to play him (robertson)in the CL or in a league game? I wouldn't even play him in the FA Cup v Exeter and expect him to look a level above.

“You go out and see the car that you have been dreaming about your whole life. “You say ‘here is the money’ but they say to you ‘I don’t want to sell the car’. You say ‘but I have got the money’ but they say ‘I don’t want to sell’. “They say ‘go for another car in another colour’ but you say ‘that’s ok but I want this’. Things like this happen in life, not only football. It is pretty simple. You can imagine how it works. It is not that we are doing something that other clubs are not doing - that we are more silly or they are more smart. “I can imagine if you are not involved it is annoying for fans. They think ‘oh my God! Nothing happens here! Everything happens there!’ We cannot think like this." https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/jurgen-klopp-commits-his-future-to-vauxhall Its all starting to make sense where Robertson is concerned.

Id be against moving Mane from the right as he, imo, is our best player, or at least, the most effective. Whilst i realise that he has played on the left, he has developed into a better player since then. We also have alot of players cutting back if thats the case and JM remains our primary left back.

I also think that a good left back would be helpful if we play Mane on the left and Salah on the rigbt. JM and Coutinho on the left last season i always felt that we missed an attacking energy on tbe left wing that also helped teams park the bus against us, particularly without Mane on the right. I would prefer Mane on the right myself (predominantly though fluid) with Salah on the left so it will be interesting to see how that plays out and the impact that has elsewhere. Thats because id take Milner at left back over Robertson.

If he was Brazilian... He wouldn't be a footballer. Welcome to Liverpool. You represent all that is wrong in this world. ( *all that is wrong with the world from mascherano's point of view, who lives a sheltered life free of non lfc concerns)

And thats why i am so ANGRY. £8m? Why? Free clichy? Free kolasinac?£100000 a week on a two year deal for two superior players in every regard for a bit more in wages than this no mark would cost is outragously bad business and makes no sense financially or in terms of ability. You got me Jose

Substituted at half time v palace, 4-0 down at half time, in the game that saw Hull relegated.Released by celtic, did reasonably well in tbe scottish 3rd division that earned him a move to dundee (utd) before a move to hull in the championship. Ive watched some full games. Right foot for running, quite fast but shit in almost every footballing regard. Clichy and kolasinac both free and £8m on shit is a fucking joke as back up to milly, so i dont subscribe to the, we can suffer this shit if it gets us keita and vvd line. Others have given their view on JM at left back and i agree with them, great professional but not a left back.

Utter shit. Konchesky mark II. Garbage. Fuck you Robertson, youre shit. Milner should not be first choice. Spending £8m is incredible. I agree with Hades. My day is ruined.

Selling Lucas? It must be some sort of joke. Lucas will never leave. We will all grow old together, with Lucas filling in at left back when Milly retires and Robertson turns out to be worse than Kinchesky's shit.

It seems we need to agree to disagree. I guess that you are to Jurgen what Cardie is to FSG then, as he is clearly beyond reproach. I find it odd that ive found myself on this side of the fence, as i truely love the man, but that seems to be your arguement. I have taken this opportunity however, on an intetnet forum, to express my concern about signing Robertson.Perhaps you disagree with me beyond your disbelief that i could disagree with Jurgen? You have seen evidence with your own eyes that he can come in and do it against a top side? He has outstanding qualities in some way that make him a suitable signing for a team that will hopefully qualify for tbe group stages of the cl? I detailed him being released, then to dundee (utd) then to relegated hull to gauge his pedigree. There are some that come from the lower leagues or who are released from clubs that do come good, but generally they have something that your eyes can see that you would determine as footballing quality and in tbe case of Robertson i cant see it. Indeed, you use Klopps pedigree to diminish my point of view. Clichy, youll have to enlighten me as to why he is less able than robertson as i dont understand why wanting him, in preference to robertson, would be desperate?

I agree, and i thought that finnan was good before he joined. Could use both feet and contributed in attack whilst being reasonably solid.Ive watched a bit of robertson and i cant see one decent aspect to his game. We should not be shopping at his level. Who is worse as a starter for any PL club? Factor in our supposed target of being competitive in this league, getting top 4 again and having a decent cl run and it becomes all the more confusing.

I would be at odds with Jurgen if he thinks that Robertson is the player we need to take us forward and i would also be at odds with him if he wanted to go into this season with JM as first choice with Robertson as his under study, spending £8m on a player who has been released by celtic, and came back from 3rd division scottish football to dundee, securing a move to hull who yo yo'd between the championship and the premier league, being relegated and substituted at half time in the game that decided that relegation v crystal palace, at half time, 4-0 down.This is not a player who is going to take us to league or champions league success. Arsenal signed kolasinac for free, clichy is also is on a free. Both vastly superior players, so i find the arguement that taking robertson as a cheap alternative so that we can concentrate on the big deals as somewhat surprising. He wont surprise anyone, other than me, and only if he is any better than konchesky. Then there is the question of whether we will actually do the big deals in the first place.

Im fuming about robertson so apologies about my moaning. Wasnt he subbed off at half time when hull were 4-0 down to palace in the game that confirmed their relegation? Utter, utter shite. But im sure Jurgen was monitoring him at Dortmund whilst Robertson was tearing it up at Dundee after he tore it up in the scottish third division after he was released from celtic. Of course, this could be press bs .....

I know what you mean rev, but that presumes we can get one of these go big signings over the line. I have no faith in that, and then we are stuck with a scotland b international as competition for JM, who did well covering but is in no way tbe answer to an assault on the league and champions league.

A scotland 'b' international in old money. Tierney looks decent.

Fuck robertson, he is shit. Fuck you lfc. Another short sighted shit signing to keep us below the top teams. Will be fuming. Ill come to liverpool and boo the cunt at melwood. Have a protest like. Remember that utd fan with the placard "please sign rooney"? Ill give my placard some thought.

I have a hope for Tierney at Celtic, shouldnt be a massive fee and i think he has the skill set to make it here.

Id be pretty pissed if we signed a back up left back like Robertson. A player who is less able than JM, who is playing completely out of position, heading into a season that i hope will include champions league matches.

That was a fucking depressing afternoon look at the transfer thread. Chamberlain and Robertson. Sent shivers down my spine.

Fuck AOC, where is Tony??

Perhaps. If he took Can's place that must be what rock and roll football would look like!He just seems too slight. A bit wee joe physically, and alot more effective going forward.