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Does that clip show his headed goal for Chelsea. I remember wishing Bellamy had taken a club to his knee.

Just what we need, a booger bandit.

I agree!!! As for comments that we played well yesterday, what game did you watch? Spurs ripped us apart in the first half. In the second they took their foot off and we got back in the game but the result was already decided. This is becoming our new norm. Being Liverpool in the FSG era = being mediocre.

The day following the complaint it was reported Mikel had to be physically restrained when confronting Clattenberg and that he had threatened to break his legs.

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I agree and yes! But it won't happen, the signing will be a player with "potential" for what though, that is the question.

The ethos of any organistion comes from the top. The club's owners ethos is being acted out and has become apparent through their dismissal of KK, the transfer window debacle and the sale of players with an emphasis on cutting costs. They talk a lot of shit. Ian Ayre is incompetent in his current role. He should stick to the commercial side of things, as he appears good at that. As for running the football club, that role should go to a person who is experienced and respected. Someone who has pull with the FA and possible UEFA, not a rookie like Ayre.

Fair enough.

Don't know if he tapped him up but he did have a conversation with Torres about it taking a minimum of three years before the club was back on its feet. If the Chairman told you that, what would you think?

So does FSG have clean hands in all of this? Are they benevolent owners, willing to write cheques without second thought, for the good of the club? It was their structure and their appointment that made the deals. Consequently, they must share the blame and provide a solution. The solution they have provided is to allow a manager with one year of experience in the PL to be supported by Ian Ayre, enough said.

No confusion on my part. Its in the Bank's best interest to minimise losses. To that end, keeping the club afloat and competing meets this end. If RBS had put the club into administration, they would have lost significant monies. By keeping the club afloat, they lost nothing. In the end, they profited from the goings on as they recouped all of their initial loans plus the interest. Banks aren't going to put a business or person into administration if it is likely they can get their money back through other means. I miss the days when talk on this forum was about our football, tactics and competing with the best as one of the best.

Yes, lots of goals from Liverpool these days with only one senior striker.

FSG put in place the structure that evaluated and made the signings. Comolli negotiated the signings, which FSG must have approved. FSG are not blameless in this, it was their structure and appointment that failed.

It depends how success is measured. To them, I think its strictly profit and on that basis LFC still has a lot to offer. Dog shit or no dog shit. Does Chang troll these forums and report to his masters?

Just remember the Bank is acting in its own self-interest and that of its shareholders. If they don't keep the Club afloat, LFC as an asset is worthless since the only hard assets are Anfield and Melwood. I think the playing staff was valued at 300 million, which almost covers FSG's initial investment. If the club is put into admin the players can walk, which means that 300 mill is gone. If you liquidate the playing staff to service the debt, e.g., Alonso and Mascherano, you can keep the club afloat until the new TV deals, which should keep the debt serviced, or, you sell off players as required. RBS was moving fast and liquidating players as needed. That fiction about Rafa blowing the Alonso money is purely that, he never got that $, it went to RBS. I don't like FSG. I am scouse but live in Canada. I see how North American sports business are operated and FSG have exported the model to LFC and I don't like it. Over here, a sports franchise with a big name can make more money than championship winning teams because owners play on the fans' nostalgia. FSG are playing on our nostalgia and history. While they refuse to invest in a manner that reflects LFC's status, as one of the world's top club sides, we will continue to languish and fall behind our peers. WBA are tied for fourth in the table and have 20 points. I would like Henry, Werner and Ayre to explain how Steve Clark didn't fit into their subsequent re-vision.