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I don't want to lose any game, least of all this one, but it's a no win for us today. If we beat Everton and it keeps Rodgers here another while then that damages us more in the long run, for future derbies and in terms of top 4 this season. If we lose and he goes then we can look forward again, but in terms of today we've still lost the derby. So i'd take a defeat if it means he goes. Doesn't mean I 'want' us to lose and will cheer on Everton. Even Evertonians will take solace in a Liverpool victory today if it means it keeps Rodgers in a job. Even United fans will be cheering us on.

Klopp had a bad season in his 7th season there with an injury crisis and after selling his best player every year. Lewandowski proved to be one too many and he didn't have much money to spend to replace the players he lost and refresh the squad. Certainly not by our standards. Look at Mourinho where things go to shit in his 3rd season (Rodgers learned something from him after all, as well as deflection). Klopp's longevity at Dortmund was actually impressive and he stayed too long in the end. In reality managers these days rarely last longer than 5 or 6 years before it runs its course. If we could get 5 good years out of Klopp, like Dortmund did, then that'd be great.

De Boer's done poorly in Europe but Dutch clubs do fuck all in Europe. If they get past the CL group it's a massive achievement. If they get to the quarters of the Europa League it's a huge achievement. The last time a Dutch team did anything in Europe was PSV under Hiddink 10 years ago and Ajax haven't done anything in Europe since the days of Van Gaal. Any player who does well in Holland now is sold in the summer so you're not going to build a team. De Boer would be a gamble, and i'd prefer Klopp or Ancelotti, but he'd be a step up from Rodgers. He'd have a gameplan, we'd be able to control a game, we'd be able to keep the ball a bit, he's got a name and reputation that can attract players and he wouldn't be too insecure and arrogant to not want any leaders or characters in the team or anyone who's won anything on his staff. Then again i'd take Steve McClaren tomorrow over Rodgers so it's not always the criteria for seeing who should get the job.

Rodgers runs his mouth and we fuck up the next game. Well it had to happen eventually.

Rafa did send Gerrard publicly a message when he left Liverpool. Gerrard might not have seen it.

If fans were influenced by the press they'd still be backing Rodgers. It's hardly Rafa territory where the media are out for the blood because they wanted a British manager in his job. Now they're trying to keep a British manager in. If Rodgers goes he's going to be replaced by a foreigner in all probability. That leaves a foreign manager at all last season's top 7 plus Everton. Fans aren't all stupid. They can see the fella's full of shit and are sick of his bullshit. A man who's never actually won anything in football (other than promotion needing the play offs) yet has the ego and arrogance of Alex Ferguson and Mourinho.

He's a salesman with the motivational skills of David Brent, the PR skills of Max Clifford and more adept at spin and dodgy dossiers than Alastair Campbell. If New Labour makes a comeback after Corbyn he can head up their media operations because he's not a football manager. Failing that he could take his snake-oil salesman act and be the new Wolf of Wall Street where he can find plenty of more gullible Yanks to part with their hard-earned cash rather than Liverpool Football Club's.

He's a bullshitter of the highest order.. Those quotes show why he's still in a job. He can fool and pull the wool over people's eyes no matter how bad a job he does and he'll throw anyone under the bus that he needs to, including his own best mate. He's done FSG up like a kipper twice. Once in 2012 with that fucking dossier at the interview and in the summer when he managed to blame everyone but himself for last season and he got to replace his own coaching staff that he appointed himself but kept his job.

Good piece. Particularly the last paragraph. Houllier and Rafa were very paranoid towards the end but at least they could say that a lot of the media and ex-players were actually calling for their heads on the likes of Sky and they were criticised even when they were doing well. Rafa was top of the league and being slaughtered and for 6 years his methods were rubbished by big voices in the media (zonal marking, rotation, not media friendly enough). For all the ex-players in the media I can't recall them calling for Rodgers' head, same with all the journos who will keep excusing him simply because of his nationality (the rest of last season's top 8 were all foreigners and presumably so would Rodgers replacement), but this precious cunt can't even handle any criticism after over a YEAR of utter dross on the pitch and inept transfer policy which he's been as much a part of as anyone else.

ATK

The likes of Fallows, Hunter and Edwards don't necessarily have to be sacked. If they are then so be it, but what they need to do is work for a proper Director of Football who knows what he's doing,so they've got minimal actual power. It says something that we'd have been a lot better off just keeping Comolli than the farce that's taken place since he left. We shouldn't get him back, but just someone who can actually do that job. Gordon and Ayre should have fuck all to do with football decisions because they're absolutely clueless.

When he was on the outs in his last season he did. That was a decent Villa side.

Isn't the committee only in place because the ego wouldn't work with a DOF? Klopp worked with a DOF for 7 years at Dortmund. I'm sure he'd happily work with someone like Zorc who he could trust, rather than Gordon the Gopher, Harley boy and some stat nerd. Neither of which actually know anything about the game. The difference is Rodgers is happy to work with fools because of his own insecurities and arrogance, whereas Klopp will want proper staff in place and can probably see from afar the football side of things is a shambles.

First time we've played against that cretin Sherwood out of them 9 who is clueless. Yet he still made a total cunt out of Rodgers at Wembley. He should have been sacked that night. Lambert had Rodgers off 3 out of 3. I remember a 5-0 in 08/09.

Clint Dempsey was the key and the owners fucked that up for him. That's why we've been shit. Fabio Borini would have definitely 'excited the fans' if he had Clint to play with and Joe Allen would have been the Welsh Xavi if he had Ashley Williams to play it out from the back rather than Dejan 'our leader' Lovren.

Rodgers will blame anyone and everyone bar himself and throw anyone under the bus that he needs to. Whether that's players, scouts, transfer committees that he's part of, his own employers, his own coaching staff and personal friends on it that he appointed himself, signings he personally pushed for, the media that he's bullshitted for the last 3 year to a fair press, ex-players in the media, the state of the pitch, lack of training time, injuries.

The new narrative "if only Sturridge had been fit the last 12 months". How about "If only i'd be able to sign Clint Dempsey instead of Sturridge and gave Henderson to Fulham".

Which would suggest Rafa's man-management is a lot better than Gerrard gave him credit for in his book where he bemoaned how "if only he had Rodgers' man-management". All Rodgers did was kiss Gerrard's arse all the time. Anyone else with any kind of personality or ego Rodgers fell out with or got rid of. One suspects he was quite happy to see Gerrard out the door.

A win next week would be the most pyrrhic of victories.

He's the same keeper he was last season so replace him in the summer with Begovic or someone. Not a lower Championship keeper to replace the hapless Jones. Clueless cunts. Policy on the hoof with Rodgers and zero foresight.

They've given him an easy ride. Fucking hell remember the vendetta from loads of ex-players against Rafa even when we were top of the league or flying in Europe? Let alone in his last season when we were struggling. You had the likes of Redknapp openly calling for his head on Sky - not to mention the Henry Winter gang. Nobody's done that with Rodgers and you've still got the likes of Aldo coming out and saying back him. All Carragher and Souness did was criticize his indefensible tactics at Old Trafford. The only thing Carragher said about his position was that after backing him in the summer the owners can't get rid now after 6 games.

Conspiracy against Colin Pascoe from his best mate in the summer so the worm could keep his job after doing a spectacularly bad job last season.

Arrogant wanker till the bitter end judging by his after match comments. Already trying to spin the narrative in case he's binned with one eye on his next job.

The issue with it was it was all fluff, bullshit and management speak and for most of his time here he hasn't been able to back it up on the pitch. Usually when he has his mouth runs away with him and the pride comes before a fall "must have been that new defensive coach", "Dejan Lovren is a different player this season". He's a salesman and a confidence trickster. People always figure that out in the end, but it's too late when you're already bought the product without a receipt.

Just read an interview with Ian Holloway in a book about managers where he says his aim is 1000 games as a manager (just before he was sacked at Millwall). He had 800 and something and 800 of them were in the football league. Neil Warnock has 1000 games. Rodgers will just be another journeyman manager.