FrenchEyeGlass

I genuinely think they were okay with giving Klopp a little bit to spend every summer (nothing crazy, but post rebuild a little bit more than before) but decided to sell as soon as the super league went in the bin. As soon as they made that decision their strategy completely changed. That's why we accelerated the ARE development and have invested the bare minimum since. We only kept Salah because his additional wages were covered by Mane's departing wage, and he has tremendous commercial value for a new investor. Look at the accounts for fucks sake - we aggressively paid down debt we owed to FSG last season (which was extended to the club at a brilliant rate of interest) when there was no understandable need to do so. Why? Because having little to no debt is ideal for a new investor.

Give me a hug :( And answer my question in all sincerity. How are you supportive of them walking away with billions after completely ruining our squad and investing fuck all for years? How does that make them good owners? It makes them good investors.

What is admirable about it? Why would I, a Liverpool fan who cares primarily about our success on the pitch, admire the fact that we have owners who have invested the bare minimum under the guise of financial prudence in order to walk away with billions in profit? Honestly you have to suffer from some kind of Stockholm syndrome to applaud these cunts whilst they walk away with billions after ruining the tenure of one of the greatest managers we've ever had in our history.

Oh how principled of our virtuous savior yank cunts. Thank god for their sensibilities. \ Are we meant to be fucking thankful for this 'stance'? If they are so prudent and sensible and fair, maybe they should reinvest $1bn of the $3bn+ they stand to gain when they sell us back into the club. Surely that's only fair and completely risk free? If their self-sustainable stance is all about financial health of the football club, why the fuck do they walk away with billions in profit? If we are relying only upon what we earn, has it not been the club that has earned them that profit? Fucking cunts.

They want to fully sell because they want to buy an NBA franchise and possibly an NFL franchise, both of which are far more profitable investments than a football club in a world where the super league doesn't exist and you are competing against state owned clubs Why would you want them to sell x%? So they can spend fuck all money again and just reap the benefits of selling of our club to line their pockets? Because nothing from redbird has gone towards squad re-investment. You say that they invested in FSG but they still consequentially invested in Liverpool, seeing as we are the joint largest asset on their portfolio. For all of the FSG supporters, like yourself, the past is the past and I can't be arsed debating it. But are none of you even slightly fucked off that they are about to flog the club for over $4bn, after buying us for $300m and barely spending another $300m, given that we have seen year on year criminal underinvestment in the playing squad? If they are about to sell us for $4bn, why the fuck couldn't they have bought us a midfielder in the summer? Because the want to rinse every penny then can out of the asset. It's fucking obvious that since the super league, they decided to only invest in things that direct contribute towards asset growth (and hence inflate their sale price), and little to nothing on new player acquisition (basically just reinvesting what we get from sales). You may well see us sold to another G&H or another sportswashing regime. They don't give a fuck about sentiment or us having the right custodians. Furlough told you that, ticket price hike told you that, trying to copyright the word "liverpool" told you that, the super league told you that. So when Pagliuca inevitably buys us I hope you FSG shills fucking enjoy it, because the owners who 'saved' you just sold you back to the cunts who they rescued you from.

Steve Balmer would actually be an insanely good owner. He'd shout at the linesman on behalf of Klopp ffs.

Trust me, you don't want him. And I'm Indian.

This is the reason they've been shit owners. The sale obviously raises the question of 'be careful what you wish for' but people are on here watching us get valued at $4.5bn and should remember the number of seasons we called quits on because the owners wouldn't spend a measly $50m more. If the owners had spent 250m more under Klopp (less than 100m per year), we would have two more titles and another champions league IMO. And they'd still end up making just shy 4bn in profit when we are sold.

This all seems like a bit of a donkey dick measuring contest though doesn't It, because any of those funds are far richer than the ones we have now. We don't need somebody to come in and spend 1Bn on us, let alone 302Bn. I

Genuine question here as I'm not as clued up on the gulf states, but why wouldn't they be able to compete? There's only so much money you can sink into a football club year on year, and they'd only need to be able to afford a transfer kitty. The difference is, unlike Man City, we are genuinely commercially sound, and bring in some of the best revenues ever seen in premier league history. We have far greater gate receipts (legitimate ones I mean), far greater international draw, far more brand appeal, we are generally a far more robust investment.

They're all right to be honest. It's totally out of order for me to seriously assert that I would allow my fictional children to be left with Ian Huntley in the completely plausible scenario whereby he personally buys Liverpool Football Club Mbappe for $200m. I'm a disgrace man.

You lot are comparing selling to another owner to leaving your kids with a child killer. You’re not only sensitive, you’re a bunch of fucking looneys.

good lord. I dont even have kids for fucks sake stop being so sensitive.

jesus christ, you're on TLW where we have a fucking death pool, you fanny.

if he bought us mbappe then fuck my kids

The reason why this has come out is because FSG are likely already in high level discussions with one or two interested parties. There is no way this would come out otherwise, as there were absolutely no rumors of a sale. Ornstein was obviously briefed as his piece was followed up with a pre-written statement immediately. The reason they'd come out publicly is because they've likely done a lot of preparatory groundwork with Goldman/MS and are finally ready to pitch / invite interested parties. That will be done through more sophisticated means than an Athletic article, but publicity around the potential for a sale is only a good thing in terms of inviting interest. We can still compete within the means of FFP - we could spend a shit ton more every season and still not breach it. But if i'm being honest, there is no owner in the world who respects it anymore. FFP is a load of bollocks and people have seen through the facade now. We are the second most attractive asset in English football. If we had major investment, we have a prestige that is unmatched. When all is said and done, the biggest teams in the world will always be Madrid, Barca, United, Liverpool, Munich and Juve. Wait until we stand spending like one.

Klopp loved Fergie. If he's buying us for billions of his own money, I promise you he'll quickly love Liverpool far more than he ever did Utd.

they dealt with a broker, albeit smaller, for their sale to redbird. it's necessary for any considerable equity sale. I dont think their statement contradicted ornstein at all. they are just hedging.

I agree with all on here that I hope we're not taken over by a bunch of awful human rights abusing cunts. I do think the outlook is far broader than folk on here seem to believe though. Jim Ratcliffe will be name bandied about first. He has a consortium desperate to buy a sporting institution. Then you have a massive swathe of US investors, Boehly being a prime example. I don't think people realize the way 'soccer' is viewed there as having the potential to be the nascent sporting investment. With the next world cup being in the US, owning LFC is a massive opportunity. FSG are getting out because they want to buy an NBA franchise and they are not cash rich enough to do that whilst investing what is needed for us to remain successful. The alternative scenario here is they sell off half of our equity for 2bn and use that. I'm sure they have a whole host of scenarios that work for them, but I doubt anybody is going to want to own a piece of us. They've been trying to sell off equity for years and only got a bite from redbird. I think they have realized they may need to sell wholly and maybe their view has eased on that given the desire for an NBA franchise.

Shut up you bitch made son of a bitch. And neg this post too.

If we sell I think I personally deserve a portion of the capital gains for my stellar work in this thread over the years

ITS FINALLY HAPPENING SELL TO THE MOST TREACHEROUS OIL STATE CUNTS WE CAN FIND. I DONT GIVE A FUCK. SELL IT TO FUCKING PUTIN AND FIELD A NUCLEAR WEAPON IN CENTER MID.

We're losing every fucking week so yeah, who'd have guessed it.

They already fucking have. They sold a 10% equity stake of FSG to RedBird largely due to our valuation for 750m. They bought us for fucking 250m. They have already made their fucking profit and some, when they eventually sell us they'll be laughing away with a few billion. And yet there were fucking cunts in this thread in the summer telling me there's "nothing to suggest FSG are taking money out of the club". You dumb motherfuckers, they are taking money out of the club every day they refuse to invest in it and sit on an inflated asset value.

No need to protest lads. No siree bob, don't want to make a laughing stock of the club. Let's just wait until we lose to 19th and 20th in the league, end up in the bottom half of the table and Klopp walks at the end of the season. That would be the right time to put pressure on the owners.