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It is simply too much to ask of Nunez to score an important chance 

We're getting beat by diving and subsequent set pieces from 1985. Sick.

Just now, stringvest said:

Endo has been a better 6 than MacAllister.  It's not even close.

Nah.

Nunez has been an absolute parody.

1 minute ago, NoelM said:

Alexis is not a 6.

He has been a perfectly acceptable one. The one we bought is simply not very good and can't play every game.

2 minutes ago, LFC 6 Times said:

Darwin is fucking shite

He is so great at flinging himself and still not getting near a cross.

Robertson is a moron.

1 minute ago, etho said:

Got Feyenoord to the Europa League final

He did not.

4 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

 

I don't even think he was discussed until the leak.

 

Hopefully he is banned from recommending players, as this level is a step up for him and we don't know how long he will be here. He's going to be a head coach right so he shouldn't have much dealings with transfers. 

He'd be part of the transfer discussions but there will be people above him, yeah.

Biggest question for me is tactically, really. Can you implement in the Premier League what you can implement in the Eredivisie where the intensity is way lower, the level is way lower. 

3 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

From a man who very few had ever heard of or probably watched his footie, we do seem a bit overly confident his tried and trusted methods will work. 

 

Did anybody name him as the gaffer they wanted in the next manager thread?

On paragraph 1; of course.

On paragraph 2; of course not.

10 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

He really reads like a man who has fallen out of love.

The merseyside derby is terrible, to be fair. Other than winning it, there's nothing about it that is usually enjoyable.

1 minute ago, Lee909 said:

This isn't a summer for mad tactical changes either as any new coach won't have much time with the players with the Euros and players arriving late

 

Worth noting Slot assistant manager is also Koeman assistant with the national team so will be familiar to the Dutch lafs

We don't even know if what he did tactically in the Eredivisie is applicable here, though.

I do hope the style of play and possible similarity to Klopp in that regard was just a very secondary factor in the decision to hire him, to be honest.

The Dutch League is so bad, I'm pretty sure you could do almost anything tactically there. It's what ten Hag did; he was playing possession footy at Ajax and then as soon as he came to the Premier League, he changed it because he was like, oh I can't do that here. Maybe that's just because he's mentally weak and doesn't believe in what he does, but it's still illustrative of something. Certainly, if we eliminated Amorim because he plays 3 at the back and presses a bit less, that's not a good reason.

I would hope it's more about; ok this guy has done really good things at two unfancied clubs, and he seems like a big personality, so he's got something about him.

17 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

The thing with tactics is they don't count if the manager is a weasely little fucker with shit hair. i personally think looking and acting like an utter twat should bar you from the managers job at Liverpool. You are a leader and nobody wants to follow shit like that. At least Rafa could be made into a Rafatollah. 

Sure. That is honestly a better reason than much of what I've read on here.

1 minute ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

I've seen Brighton play this year and they look like a poorer version of Man City. They were already playing good football under Potter before he came in, all he has done is tweaked it a bit. 

 

That's a fair point, but it doesn't change the fact that Brighton started the season really well with wins over United, Newcastle, West Ham and Wolves but they've massively dropped off in the second half of the season. 

 

The way De Zerbi is going I can see Brighton struggling next season and he will end up getting sacked.  

The football is way more attacking under De Zerbi than under Potter. They genuinely had the 2nd best attack in the league last season. 

This season, he has a much worse, injury riddled squad and has the added European games. That is just too much to do and it was of course going to be worse in the league. 

I dont know why he would even think about staying at Brighton, to be honest. He got them to an unprecedented level and all that meant is more big players left. Clearly he is on a hiding to nothing given this absurd sentiment that he is is actually doing badly. 

15 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

What does he do tactically that no one does? If he's such a good tactician how come Brighton are only 10th in the league? 

 

By overachieving I meant that he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. If he'd taken Brighton up to 4th this season, like Emery has done with Villa, I'd class that as overachieving.  They have massively dropped off this season though. after winning five of the first six, Brighton have only won six of their next twenty six league games. If they replicate this next season, they'll be closer to relegation than European football. 

 

One, look it up, you lazy bum. 

Two, Villa have spent 130m net since Emery was there. Brighton have made a 170m profit since De Zerbi is there. Gee, wonder why fucking Brighton, who De Zerbi led to their highest ever finish and European Football, arent in 4th, 

Fuck me man, the arguments are so bad. 

1 minute ago, No2 said:

I could envisage a situation where Virgil stands on the ball like Dunk does and nobody engages him at all. He's literally standing there breaking PL possession records.

See, thats a funny comment. 

11 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

De Zerbi tries to get Brighton playing like Man City that's all. He's hardly some great revolutionary. De Zerbi not winning anything is significant as it means that he's not an overachiever. To be fair to him Shakhtar Donetsk were top of the league when he left Ukraine so he could/should have a Ukrainian league to his name.

 

I'd still rather go for somebody like Slot over De Zerbi though. 

 

 

The bold parts are complete bollocks.

He does things tactically that no one else does. If you arent arsed about knowing what those are, dont even comment.

Secondly, the part about not overachieving, he has managed Brighton and Sassuolo, Those clubs havent won top flight trophies ever. 

Its just more reductionary shite about De Zerbi that people have spouted on here because they dont think he should manage Liverpool. Which, the part about not wanting him to be our manager is totally fine, but the reasons people have been giving have been absolutely awful. 

40 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

If there was a no risk option available then I'd agree.

 

What I don't understand is why you think De Zerbi is better? What's this based on?

 

You quite rightly say that most people haven't heard of Slot, but had you heard of De Zerbi before he became Brighton manger? Most people have only heard of De Zerbi because he now manages in England. 

 

It's not even like De Zerbi is doing particularly well at Brighton? They are 10th in the league. More or less where they were under Graham Potter.  If they were 4th this season I'd maybe understand it, but the reality is that Brighton are roughly where you'd expect them to be.

 

Personally I think Slot has achieved far more than De Zerbi. Unlike De Zerbi he knows how to win leagues and cups against teams that have bigger budgets, and that exactly what we need.  

The point with De Zerbi is he has his own football, which is very rare, and it is something that seems very suited to the high level. 

That is a trait that could make him a great manager, just like Slot winning at a worse club in Holland could make him a great manager. But the fact he won the Eredivisie and De Zerbi hasnt won anything means fuck all, lets be honest. 

2 hours ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

I think winning the league with Ajax or PSV is a piece of piss, but doing it with Feyenoord is a much bigger achievement. 

Giovanni van Bronckhorst won the league with Feyenoord. So does that mean it is a huge achievement if a patently average manager can do it, for me less so. That said, it is more of an unfancied club than Ajax and PSV, yeah. 

I think what Amorim is doing at Sporting is more impressive and difficult, but clearly there was a misalignment there. Slot seems like the second option to me, but targeting both of them makes sense. The idea is similar, which is that if you can win at clubs who arent the best and biggest in your league, you may have the traits to be an extraordinary manager who can do things against the odds, etc... 

So we are banking that Slot is an extraordinary manager and it s possible he is, but again, I dont think a single person can give you any certainties about being good in the Dutch League and what that means. It is an awful league. 

1 minute ago, TD_LFC said:

Or he was just one of many on a list given more importance in the media because the Portugese press are more talkative.

 

I don't think we're working down a list of preferences we're narrowing down our requirements.

To be fair, Slot and Amorim seem a bit cut from the same cloth in terms of their career path and achievements. I don't think that's a coincidence.

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

 

Whether that is true or not, he isn't actually good enough to be starting for a club who presumably have aspirations of qualifying for the UEFA Cup at the least. 

 

He had one decent season for Villarreal. That's it. 

 

He'd be Villarreal's third best striker now, and they're ninth. 

He definitely shouldn't be starting, but he's the type of forward you at least want in the squad because he's dangerous. And he didn't cost a fortune.

5 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

They spent 12 trillion quid and he starts upfront for them every week. It's fucking weird. 

 

0 in 13 for Senegal.

Him, Palmer and Gusto are their best signings. The only players that have offered a semblance of value for money.

1 hour ago, Moo said:

 

Diaz - not as far as I know, but there's time yet. In an ideal world neither Salah nor Nunez starts at the moment but we'll need one of them to make up the three, unless we take the plunge with Danns.

I think we still need one of Salah or Nunez to have a player that can create chances on their own. I wouldn't start them both, though.

27 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

For all the tedious mocking about spreadsheets etc will bring, huge personalities and supporter engagement are two factors that a spreadsheet can’t quantify.

 

Doing it data only, you end up with charismaless black holes like 7-Hag.  

The issue with Slot would be he's been doing it in the Dutch League. Can you take any of his success that seriously, is a legitimate question. But also, he might just be a great manager. Hard to say.