Duff Man

Ok. Now, are they just jokes, or are they evidence of someone being a homophobe?

Sure, if you like. Now, are they just jokes, or are they evidence of someone being a homophobe?

Forget all that other stuff. You've accused me of hate speech, so let's just focus on that. It quite clearly was a joke, albeit a very bad one. Now, explain to me, how me making a joke about Super Man - on a message board - that leans into two stereotypes about gay people, is hate speech, and how you making derogatory comments about gay people in real life, isn't? And what separates my joke, from the many, many others on here about gay people?

So, guy who's made derogatory comments about gay people, you can't actually point out why it's hate speech?

Sure dude. If you don't want to point out which bit's hate speech, why don't you share some of the derogatory comments you've made about gay people?

Fine, let's just go with that one joke. Now, are they just jokes, or are they evidence of someone being a homophobe?

How fuck have I got caught out, when it's you who won't answer the question? AGAIN: are they just jokes, or are they evidence of someone being a homophobe?

Says the man who makes derogatory comments about gay people. But which bit is hate speech, exactly?

No, to gay people. But again, if they're all just jokes now - which is what you're saying - then I'm not "a massive homophobe" or a "homophobic cunt", am I. So again, for at least the 6th time, are they just jokes, or are they evidence of someone being a homophobe?

No, but if I am, then so is Rico, which is the whole point.

Yeah neither do I. I leant into a couple of stereoptypes, and used the word twat. That doesn't make it hate speech, it makes it derogatory, the same thing as you've admitted to doing.

He's one who's accusing me of it, so why are you directing that question at me?

Your joke was literally that a straight man was being threatened with gay sex for standing up for gay rights. That's pretty offensive.

I just pointed out it was weird. You're the one who started taking the moral high ground, which is pretty wild considering you've admitting to making derogatory comments about gay people, and taking the piss out of them.

I just pointed out it was weird. You're the one who started taking the moral high ground, which is pretty wild considering you've admitting to making derogatory comments about gay people, and taking the piss out of them.

I'm not struggling here. You clearly are, though, given how often you keep dodging the main point. I commented because it was a reply to me. And if we're using your standard for judging whether it's homophobic or not, then it clearly is, as functionally it's no different to mine from years ago. Which is the whole point, because off the back of that, you started tossing around the homophobe label. So, again, are those jokes evidence of someone being "a massive homophobe" and "a homophobic cunt", or not? This will be the 5th time you've dodged it.

To produce the kind of numbers Owen and Torres did for us in their pomp - four seasons in a row - really is pretty special. I'd be gutted if he went in the summer, he's a fucking brilliant player.

Defo deserves another season to prove he can get back to the player he was.

No I didn't. It's what you did. So again (and this is like the 5th time you've dodged this very simple question): they're not evidence of someone being "a massive homophobe" and "a homophobic cunt"?

So, just to be clear, they're not evidence of someone being "a massive homophobe" and "a homophobic cunt"? It's a very simple yes or no.

Just incredible. In the first post Rico states that my casual homophobia years ago is evidence of me being a massive homophobe, and then, in the very next post, he says his casual homophobia is just a joke that doesn't have any impact on anyone.

Weird. As I've said multiple times now. Now, the question you keep dodging, for very obvious reasons: do said jokes make someone "a massive homophobe" and "a homophobic cunt", or are they just jokes "that don't have any impact on anyone"?

My dude, I would gently suggest you direct that at the people labeling other people homophobes, for things they're just as guilty of themselves.

Fucking hell, how many times? That's what you've done, not me. So, again, do these kind of jokes make someone "a massive homophobe" and "a homophobic cunt", or are they just jokes "that don't have any impact on anyone"? It can't be both, so which is it?

Just to be clear, by your own standard, you're a "massive homophobe" and "a homophobic cunt" yeah?